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the entire process has also been, not "troublesome", but full of new challenges? the first game was a mostly one man operation; many other people helped, but afaik something like 80% of it was one man deltarune is larger, more ambitious, is starting with the goal of "ported to a bunch of platforms and in many languages", and every update mentions a new change in how they're doing things, either bringing on more people, delegating responsibilities, or dealing with injuries/wrists and if you think the timing here is bad, well, there's always half-life 2 and its chapter-based releases 
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 There's even a japanese version so you know its real  Oh there's a google doc documenting every single card. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BDq4HaxqcopkGkauSK4kFZI9LbtOtTuoT1B_rXuMx78/preview Whitenoise Poster fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Feb 14, 2024 |
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Worth noting that, especially in Japanese, mystery card writer doesn't actually talk at all like Gaster (all hiragana vs katakana and kanji). So we have two ominous allcaps weirdos with meta knowledge, apparently.
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Whitenoise Poster posted:Eight years of dev time and we are currently about six months away from being officially 3/7ths done with what is basically a fancy rpgmaker game. The promise had been made.
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risky business posted:Worth noting that, especially in Japanese, mystery card writer doesn't actually talk at all like Gaster (all hiragana vs katakana and kanji). So we have two ominous allcaps weirdos with meta knowledge, apparently. one interesting observation i have made is that many of valentines day cards have ~6600 unique colors, and a few others have exactly 256 colors, instead (based on irfanview's count) wonder if there's any weird dataminable poo poo in these
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The valentines are actually the chapter 3 drop, you have to follow the clues to combine them into a single binary executable file
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Never fear, I'm sure everything is well in hand. If they needed help... surely my application... 
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Not meaning to sound bitchy (in that case, shouldn't I get a personality replacement?) but I was under the impression that the point of having a game in episodes meant that you could release it... Episodically?
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Samovar posted:Not meaning to sound bitchy (in that case, shouldn't I get a personality replacement?) but I was under the impression that the point of having a game in episodes meant that you could release it... Episodically? I'm pretty sure Toby is going to do Shenanigans with the ability to select chapters.
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I just chose a very distant date in my head and I'm waiting to see if I was right or not. Will Deltarune be completed by 2042 or will I still be waiting for more updates? Only time will tell, I can only be pleasantly surprised if that turns out to be overshooting things.
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Zamujasa posted:one interesting observation i have made is that many of valentines day cards have ~6600 unique colors, and a few others have exactly 256 colors, instead (based on irfanview's count) Some are PNGs, others are GIFs
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Get your kisses ready for Spamton, cause he has his ready for you! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x_UfDfoRmo
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Samovar posted:Not meaning to sound bitchy (in that case, shouldn't I get a personality replacement?) but I was under the impression that the point of having a game in episodes meant that you could release it... Episodically? I don't think Deltarune was originally meant to be episodic. I think Toby originally meant to release everything after chapter 1 at once, but the length of development alongside Covid made him decide to release the game in chunks. The chapters were probably originally just meant for pacing, as well as letting you go back to section more quickly when replaying, which would be especially important for letting players collect the secret bosses' shadow crystals more easily.
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my uncle works at Toby and he said it's all going to be released on my birthday as a special present for me
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CandyCrazy posted:I don't think Deltarune was originally meant to be episodic. I think Toby originally meant to release everything after chapter 1 at once, but the length of development alongside Covid made him decide to release the game in chunks. The chapters were probably originally just meant for pacing, as well as letting you go back to section more quickly when replaying, which would be especially important for letting players collect the secret bosses' shadow crystals more easily. this is also more or less how undertale was released, but instead of chapters it was just a demo and then the rest of the game
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Samovar posted:Not meaning to sound bitchy (in that case, shouldn't I get a personality replacement?) but I was under the impression that the point of having a game in episodes meant that you could release it... Episodically? To be fair it wasn't really meant to be episodic in the first place. Chapter 1 was essentially supposed to be the demo, but they decided to release chapter 2 earlier since 2020 sucked so much, with chapters 3 through 5 being released as a batch later. Which then got downsized to releasing Chapters 3 and 4 as a batch later.
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Zamujasa posted:this is also more or less how undertale was released, but instead of chapters it was just a demo and then the rest of the game although in undertales case the demo was to promote the kickstarter, which they obviously didn't need to do this time since toby has more money than god now i backed the kickstarter but i can't for the life of me remember how it got on my radar, i wasn't into homestuck so it wasn't that connection
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The three valentines that I got, the Ralsei one I believe was already posted but I haven't seen the other two yet:  
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Somehow two different youtubers manage to get videos more then an hour long out of this newsletter. One of them is two hours. I'm going to watch them but I won't be happy about it.
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CandyCrazy posted:I don't think Deltarune was originally meant to be episodic. I think Toby originally meant to release everything after chapter 1 at once, but the length of development alongside Covid made him decide to release the game in chunks. The chapters were probably originally just meant for pacing, as well as letting you go back to section more quickly when replaying, which would be especially important for letting players collect the secret bosses' shadow crystals more easily. Araxxor posted:To be fair it wasn't really meant to be episodic in the first place. Chapter 1 was essentially supposed to be the demo, but they decided to release chapter 2 earlier since 2020 sucked so much, with chapters 3 through 5 being released as a batch later. Which then got downsized to releasing Chapters 3 and 4 as a batch later. Well, that's me schooled. Slightly less annoyed about it not being out.
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Samovar posted:Well, that's me schooled. Slightly less annoyed about it not being out. Hang on I'll fix that. 
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Whitenoise Poster posted:Hang on I'll fix that. lmao at palworld in this lineup
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I have a feeling part of those 8 years involved getting an actual team and doing project management related stuff. Like, Undertale was Toby with 2 programming helpers and mostly extra artists like Everdread or Temmie Chang, while Deltarune seems to be involving way more people. And once you start getting an actual development team you better set a good basis for project managing or it's gonna be hell. Of course it could also be they are specifically in that hell, but we can only guess.
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repiv posted:although in undertales case the demo was to promote the kickstarter, which they obviously didn't need to do this time since toby has more money than god now The demo got around the general gaming public, the gimmicks already there were interesting on their own
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yeah i backed it based on the demo but there were only about 2400 backers in total, it didn't spread that far
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that really just reminded me how much Undertale/Deltarune are one of the Big Obvious Homestuck successors, right up there with The Locked Tomb book series by Tamsyn Miur and Kill Six Billion Demons.
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