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bubblegumbo0 posted:In the future Japanese MMOs mechanics are still behind in concepts, except by decades literally this time, last hits determine the loot reciever? Well at least you can have funny griefing stories to tell with that kind of retarded mechanic.  who spends all his development time on details like frying brains or how digital food tastes, and none of it on enjoyable or progressive game mechanics.
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You don't need to make your game fun when you have a captive audience. Literally!
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Jul 16, 2012 04:00
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Xythar posted:You don't need to make your game fun when you have a captive audience. Literally! They needed to make it fun for the beta testers, at least.
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Jul 16, 2012 04:13
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The only thing missing from this series is SAO having been designed with a reality tv aspect. Unwitting modern day gladiators and a horrified Japanese populace. Jackard fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Jul 16, 2012 |
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Jul 16, 2012 04:37
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Jackard posted:The only thing missing from this series is SAO having been designed with a reality tv aspect.
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Jul 16, 2012 05:24
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Aureon posted:If my source (4ch) is correct, bluehair guy noticed that potions do not work in the zone - That's supposedly in the LN. The potion thing was just added for dramatic effect. In the novel, Diabel gets slashed and dies pretty much immediately. filthychimp fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Jul 16, 2012 |
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Jul 16, 2012 05:40
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Edit: Nevermind...
Storgar fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Jul 16, 2012 |
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Jul 16, 2012 06:06
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filthychimp posted:The potion thing was just added for dramatic effect. In the novel, Diabel gets slashed and dies pretty much immediately. Well, in the novel, Kirito did actually make it over to Diabel before he died all of five seconds later.
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Jul 16, 2012 11:22
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How about this: Name one MMO where you can force another player to use a potion.
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Jul 16, 2012 14:55
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AnacondaHL posted:How about this: Name one MMO where you can force another player to use a potion. Hmm. In Anarchy Online you could use the potion equivalents on other people.
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Jul 16, 2012 14:57
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AnacondaHL posted:How about this: Name one MMO where you can force another player to use a potion.  (Also you can do this for real on some Neverwinter Nights PWs, they are smaller scale than an MMO but are the same kind of idea.)
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Jul 16, 2012 15:12
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AnacondaHL posted:How about this: Name one MMO where you can force another player to use a potion. Ragnarok Online had the Alchemist class whose whole point was throwing potions at other people.
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Jul 16, 2012 16:30
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AnacondaHL posted:How about this: Name one MMO where you can force another player to use a potion. This isn't an MMO, but in Neverwinter Nights, you could drag a potion over a henchman to make them drink it. I think if you did that with a poison, they added poison to their weapons. Might also have been custom scripts, there were a lot of really crazy cool stuff in that game. Like support for up to 96 players at once on a server.
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Jul 17, 2012 00:09
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Jackard posted:The first virtual reality MMO will be designed by a ToadyOne-level That certainly is an innovation compared to say World of Warcraft. Hillary Clinton would probably be displeased though.
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Jul 17, 2012 03:48
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Mordaedil posted:This isn't an MMO, but in Neverwinter Nights, you could drag a potion over a henchman to make them drink it. I think if you did that with a poison, they added poison to their weapons. Factor_VIII posted:He also seems to have included code to allow people to gently caress. Jackard fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Jul 17, 2012 |
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Jul 17, 2012 03:54
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Factor_VIII posted:He also seems to have included code to allow people to gently caress. "Two years worth of semen made a glopping noise as it flowed endlessly into Asuna." (Apparently the author of the novels posted that extra chapter on his website and a translation is available on Baka-Tsuki.) Why japan why. Seriously you make something that's actually kinda good and then you go and ruin it.
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Jul 17, 2012 04:11
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Dexo posted:Why japan why. Seriously you make something that's actually kinda good and then you go and ruin it. Every work of fiction with a sex scene in it is automatically awful, grrr and stuff.
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Jul 17, 2012 04:37
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I thought the protagonist was gay
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Jul 17, 2012 05:00
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Countblanc posted:I thought the protagonist was gay I definitely got that impression about either Kirito or Klein, but I can't remember which.
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Jul 17, 2012 05:07
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I thought the ED made it pretty glaringly obvious that Asuna was the female lead and main love interest for the guy.
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Jul 17, 2012 05:12
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Silver2195 posted:I definitely got that impression about either Kirito or Klein, but I can't remember which.
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Jul 17, 2012 05:13
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Oh god damnit, I barely started watching the show and there's already fan fiction of people loving being posted. Great. Fake Edit: Wait, what? That's canon...? What the gently caress.  Real Edit: Okay, so I was thinking about this for some reason. Wouldn't the ability to have sex with people just make the situation worse? ...ADTRW > Sword Art Online - Rape as a Game Mechanic Goooooons! 
Storgar fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Jul 17, 2012 |
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Jul 17, 2012 05:21
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Blhue posted:Every work of fiction with a sex scene in it is automatically awful, grrr and stuff. To be fair, that is a really terribly written sex scene. And Asuna looks like 12.
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Jul 17, 2012 05:23
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MadRhetoric posted:To be fair, that is a really terribly written sex scene. And Asuna looks like 12. I thought it was a parody of terribly written sex scenes.
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Jul 17, 2012 05:27
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Dexo posted:Why japan why. Seriously you make something that's actually kinda good and then you go and ruin it. I read a lot of western Fantasy/Sci-Fi this registers pretty average for the books that do put in sex scenes. ShinsoBEAM! fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Jul 17, 2012 |
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Jul 17, 2012 05:28
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It's a semi-canonical sort of thing, in the author's side-story section, which also includes a poke at the whole Harem thing, the Accel World Crossover, and a bunch of other things. (Then again, the episode we just watched was also in that collection  )Really, I try to ignore that thing's existence. As it has literally no impact on the story, it's not hard to do that.
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Jul 17, 2012 05:33
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Storgar posted:Real Edit: Okay, so I was thinking about this for some reason. Wouldn't the ability to have sex with people just make the situation worse? You have to select a specific option to enable sex, though.
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Jul 17, 2012 05:45
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Right. Forgot about that. Maybe the creator was just trying to collect data on the human condition?
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Jul 17, 2012 05:52
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Factor_VIII posted:He also seems to have included code to allow people to gently caress. "Two years worth of semen made a glopping noise as it flowed endlessly into Asuna." (Apparently the author of the novels posted that extra chapter on his website and a translation is available on Baka-Tsuki.)  I thought that wasn't a thing that happened. Can I just pretend that never happened?
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Jul 17, 2012 06:46
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ShinsoBEAM! posted:I read a lot of western Fantasy/Sci-Fi this registers pretty average for the books that do put in sex scenes. Materant posted:
I would prefer to ignore it (like I do in non-Japanese fiction) instead of reading about it every time I open this thread. Can we ignore it instead of acting allergic to it, please?
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Doctor w-rw-rw- posted:I would prefer to ignore it (like I do in non-Japanese fiction) instead of reading about it every time I open this thread. Can we ignore it instead of acting allergic to it, please? no kidding. The author made a sex scene happen, big deal? It's not just Japan that does it so why is this getting special treatment? Even more, it's not like anyone is forced to read it and chances are it won't even be referenced in the anime. Back on topic though, I really like the atmosphere for the game. Right down to the fact there are angry people who won't listen to reason, they really capture how it actually is your run of the mill online game.
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Jul 17, 2012 09:08
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When I asked about forcing another player to use a potion in an MMO that's not what I meant
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That sex scene is written so badly that in a way it's scarily impressive. I guess since those novels were written years ago they are too late to qualify for the Bad Sex in Fiction Award which is a shame because goddamn that would be miles ahead of any competition.
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Alectai posted:Really, I try to ignore that thing's existence. As it has literally no impact on the story, it's not hard to do that. Isn't that how sex works in all VNs/LNs/LMNOPs? Other than School Days which, uh, heh, well
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Jul 17, 2012 22:13
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Personally I'm not one to watch them but there's full next episode previews on the official site.
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Going back to some game mechanics. I don't think there are any MMO's where you can force another player to use a potion in their inventory, but I think there might be some games (perhaps not MMO's directly, but games like Neverwinter Nights, etc.) where you can use one of your potions on another player. In my opinion, Kirito was attempting to use one of his own health potions on Diabel. I have no clue why Diabel would refuse it because it meant he died both in-game and in real life. Makes no sense. Wait, I just read somewhere above that apparently healing potions did not work in that zone? Is that correct? Wasn't clear to me in the anime at that time. Also, I also just read that the game is "classless"? No healers? No crowd control? No rogues/thieves? Interesting and not really what you'd expect. I know there have been some real life MMO's where like a ton of just warriors went after a boss and killed it, but it's usually extremely difficult and inefficient. I can't imagine that for an entire game.
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I just finished episode 2 and I was wondering, is anime usually this cliché? ( I don't watch much anime). Diabel's death being a good example, along with the brooding and mysterious new supporting character.
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Jul 18, 2012 12:12
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Dan7el posted:Wait, I just read somewhere above that apparently healing potions did not work in that zone? Is that correct? Wasn't clear to me in the anime at that time. 1) They don't. Him pulling it out was largely just for dramatic effect and it wasn't even there in the novels. 2) The skills are all built into your sword/weapon type. So technically there are the different offensive roles in said weapons (crowd control and the like), anything is magical is out of the picture.
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Jul 18, 2012 12:16
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JoeCool posted:I just finished episode 2 and I was wondering, is anime usually this cliché? ( I don't watch much anime). Diabel's death being a good example, along with the brooding and mysterious new supporting character.
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Srice posted:That sex scene is written so badly that in a way it's scarily impressive. Dan7el posted:Also, I also just read that the game is "classless"? No healers? No crowd control? No rogues/thieves? Interesting and not really what you'd expect. I know there have been some real life MMO's where like a ton of just warriors went after a boss and killed it, but it's usually extremely difficult and inefficient. I can't imagine that for an entire game. My guess is that the author of the novels wanted an excuse as to why people engage in melee combat when their lives are on the line instead of just kiting every monster they meet. Of course having only melee combat has the disadvantage that it unnecessarily limits the battles in the anime to just melee.
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