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SurrealityCheck posted:As a historical thing, it's worth noting that the "celts" didn't really exist. There were a zillion hetereogeneous small groups (who looked notably different) hanging out in the UK when the Romans arrived and started actually documenting things. They even commented that they all looked different! Yo don't say this like it's uncontested. Celtic is definitely a linguistic clade which was spoken by people from cultures traditionally associated with the 'Celts'. Now whether those people are genetically related or some kind of cultural agglomeration is a valid question but there's certainly some kind of reality to them.
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NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:The best part of the Assassination threats against Barack Obama wiki page is the huge poo poo-eating grin he's got in the picture they used. Ctrl+F "Maggotmaster", no results found What is this page even for.
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Nov 1, 2015 17:47
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Oberleutnant posted:Do hunt saboteurs bother with pheasant shoots or do they only care about cute cuddly foxes. I know this is from last page but hunt saboteurs will sabotage any format of hunting or bloodsport. Foxes, hare, mink, otters, badgers, pheasants, angling - anything. There are just different methods for different things, not all forms of hunting or culling require a bunch of saboteurs running after the hunt blowing horns.
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Nov 1, 2015 18:03
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OvineYeast posted:Yo don't say this like it's uncontested. Celtic is definitely a linguistic clade which was spoken by people from cultures traditionally associated with the 'Celts'. Now whether those people are genetically related or some kind of cultural agglomeration is a valid question but there's certainly some kind of reality to them. If you think about it everyone is American now! It's fine to use 'Celtic' to refer to language or artistic styles, but it's way too big a leap to read a common identity even into a common material culture. SurrealityCheck is exactly right on the historical context here: the Romans referred to people in Britain as 'Britons', not Celts, and the latter seems to have been applied in an etic context only. And the 'genetically related' stuff gets very close to culture-historical archaeology, which is hugely popular with racist nationalists and the Nazis in particular. It's fine too to posit a contemporary 'Celtic' identity based on Irish/Welsh/Scottish nationality but these are far from unbroken genetic chains stretching into the past.
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Nov 1, 2015 18:15
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Tesseraction posted:Sounds like someone has not heard of the concept of taqiyya. Sounds tacky.
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Not So Fast posted:Ctrl+F "Maggotmaster", no results found Yeah this, come on Internet! The death ray one is really special though, worth having just for that.
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Nov 1, 2015 18:20
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Kegluneq posted:If you think about it everyone is American now! Well that last bit is kind of my point - genetics and culture are only tenuously associated anyway, and so it doesn't make sense to demand that people groups have e.g. similar appearances to count as 'real'. What I'm trying to say is that I think that 'Celtic' can be a meaningful classification without sharing genetics, or even a shared identity, without being an 'invention' of the Victorians. But I get the impression we're more or less on the same page there. e: for full disclosure, I'm a linguist and tend to put undue emphasis on linguistic commonalities. OvineYeast fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Nov 1, 2015 |
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Nov 1, 2015 18:27
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OvineYeast posted:Well that last bit is kind of my point - genetics and culture are only tenuously associated anyway, and so it doesn't make sense to demand that people groups have e.g. similar appearances to count as 'real'. What I'm trying to say is that I think that 'Celtic' can be a meaningful classification without sharing genetics, or even a shared identity, without being an 'invention' of the Victorians. But I get the impression we're more or less on the same page there. Yeah, linguistic commonalities are pretty much the only way you can talk about 'Celts' in Britain. Iron Age (and earlier) trade and travel around Europe accounts for much of the shared material culture, religious practices and so forth.
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Nov 1, 2015 18:49
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forkboy84 posted:Ah yes, the notoriously bourgeois act of commuting to work. The 3 hours a day I spent on the bus getting to & from my last job were truly the moment I got to take partial ownership of the means of production. Some of us have to read things with more practical application, like history books and Spanish for beginners.
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Nov 1, 2015 19:06
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In my experience people mostly seem to read the Metro on the way in and fiction on the way back. Even the wankiest post left anarcho-voluntaryist newsletter beats the Metro.
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Nov 1, 2015 19:12
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Guavanaut posted:In my experience people mostly seem to read the Metro on the way in and fiction on the way back. Tautological much?
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Nov 1, 2015 19:12
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dropping churchill quote "Study history, study history. In history lies all the secrets of statecraft."
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Nov 1, 2015 19:14
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The Saurus posted:dropping churchill quote I prefer 'I propose that 100,000 degenerate Britons should be forcibly sterilized and others put in labour camps to halt the decline of the British race.' personally.
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Nov 1, 2015 19:18
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Here's another Churchill quote: 'dur blur I'm an incompetent wife beater, smell my farts.'
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Not So Fast posted:Ctrl+F "Maggotmaster", no results found Posters of legend.
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Nov 1, 2015 19:28
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Oberleutnant posted:I prefer 'I propose that 100,000 degenerate Britons should be forcibly sterilized and others put in labour camps to halt the decline of the British race.' personally. I like that John Burke tried to make an authoritative list. Saves some time.
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Nov 1, 2015 19:34
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Oberleutnant posted:I prefer 'I propose that 100,000 degenerate Britons should be forcibly sterilized and others put in labour camps to halt the decline of the British race.' personally. the descendents of those people are modern tory voters like that lady on question time. doesn't look so silly now does it?
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Nov 1, 2015 19:36
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namesake posted:Here's another Churchill quote: 'dur blur I'm an incompetent wife beater, smell my farts.' "kurds eh? gas the blighters"
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Regarde Aduck posted:Why can't Murdoch die? Why is Iain M Banks dead but he isn't. I don't understand anything. I cry. Wait Iain M Banks is dead?  Edit: wait he died two years ago. Don't know how I missed that he was one of the only 3 scifi authors I like. il_cornuto fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Nov 1, 2015 |
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Nov 1, 2015 19:53
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Seriously though, history books are great - history is pretty much the study of human nature throughout history and it definitely has way way more practical and theoretical application than whatever anarchist wankfest you're reading.
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Nov 1, 2015 19:54
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il_cornuto posted:Wait Iain M Banks is dead? 2 years ago.
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Nov 1, 2015 19:54
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Important revelations about Jeremy Corbyn:Kezia Dugdale posted:I’ve noticed no notable odour. It’s not the smell I’ve been struck by but that he gives great cuddles – we’re at the cuddling stage now, we advanced to that at date number three. He’s great, a very affable, principled gentlemen and he’s great fun to spend time with.
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Nov 1, 2015 19:56
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I need some advice from you sage types, a friend of mine crashed their car avoiding a deer in the road and their insurance is claiming they can't pay out because it's an act of god. I was fairly certain that collisions with wild animals were covered if you're fully comp and would have thought this was essentially the same. Have they caught themselves in a loophole by not actually hitting the deer or should they be arguing the toss here?
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Nov 1, 2015 19:58
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OvineYeast posted:Well that last bit is kind of my point - genetics and culture are only tenuously associated anyway, and so it doesn't make sense to demand that people groups have e.g. similar appearances to count as 'real'. What I'm trying to say is that I think that 'Celtic' can be a meaningful classification without sharing genetics, or even a shared identity, without being an 'invention' of the Victorians. But I get the impression we're more or less on the same page there. For sure. I'm more rejecting the conventional cluster of what people regard Celtishness as (think of emphasis on small dark-haired people from wales - there is a strong ethnic component, and a concomitant belief that they arrived at the same time as a mass) - which was forced upon it retrospectively and has (mostly) been found wanting. I am not making the argument that there is nothing there at all (especially linguistically!). Even within the "Celtic" artistic style, for example, there is a lot of diversity and a fair chunk of it being now hived off to other areas or attributed to other influences etc. SurrealityCheck fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Nov 1, 2015 |
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The Saurus posted:Seriously though, history books are great - history is pretty much the study of human nature throughout history and it definitely has way way more practical and theoretical application than whatever anarchist wankfest you're reading. You're Karl Marx and I claim my five pounds.
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Nov 1, 2015 19:59
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ0gz_BC3bA She has 100% lost the edinburgh vote with that stance on salt and sauce.
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Nov 1, 2015 20:01
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Pilchenstein posted:I need some advice from you sage types, a friend of mine crashed their car avoiding a deer in the road and their insurance is claiming they can't pay out because it's an act of god. I was fairly certain that collisions with wild animals were covered if you're fully comp and would have thought this was essentially the same. Have they caught themselves in a loophole by not actually hitting the deer or should they be arguing the toss here? It might be a different insurers different rule thing. My friend hit two deer in two weeks and the second one hosed the car (apparently if you're going to hit a deer do it at 60 rather than 30) and the insurance paid to get it fixed.
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Pilchenstein posted:I need some advice from you sage types, a friend of mine crashed their car avoiding a deer in the road and their insurance is claiming they can't pay out because it's an act of god. I was fairly certain that collisions with wild animals were covered if you're fully comp and would have thought this was essentially the same. Have they caught themselves in a loophole by not actually hitting the deer or should they be arguing the toss here? Nope, accident is an accident. They should treat it as if your friend had simply lost control of the car and pay up while shafting their no claims.
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Further to that, if any insurance company tries to claim act of god, check your policy documents. They have to specify EXACTLY what they mean by law, and its extremely unlikely animal collision will be on there.
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The Saurus posted:Seriously though, history books are great - history is pretty much the study of human nature throughout history and it definitely has way way more practical and theoretical application than whatever anarchist wankfest you're reading. Holy poo poo, read a book on history? THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE NEVER CONSIDERED BEFORE! I thought books on political theory were literally the only things allowed to be printed. Jesus loving Christ you are stupid.
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forkboy84 posted:Holy poo poo, read a book on history? THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE NEVER CONSIDERED BEFORE! I thought books on political theory were literally the only things allowed to be printed. I bring 5 bags of crisps on every train ride and study them intently. My crispertise knows no bounds...
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serious gaylord posted:Nope, accident is an accident. They should treat it as if your friend had simply lost control of the car and pay up while shafting their no claims.
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forkboy84 posted:Holy poo poo, read a book on history? THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE NEVER CONSIDERED BEFORE! I thought books on political theory were literally the only things allowed to be printed. Enjoy your pointless wankfest you bourgie twat.
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Pilchenstein posted:I need some advice from you sage types, a friend of mine crashed their car avoiding a deer in the road and their insurance is claiming they can't pay out because it's an act of god. I was fairly certain that collisions with wild animals were covered if you're fully comp and would have thought this was essentially the same. Have they caught themselves in a loophole by not actually hitting the deer or should they be arguing the toss here? Depends entirely on the fineprint no-one ever reads and you need a library and/or legal advisors to decrypt, but they should kick up a right stink regardless and hope for the best, insurers can be reet pricks and it's almost impossible to hold them to account.
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The Saurus posted:Enjoy your pointless wankfest you bourgie twat. Says the bourgie twat. Is this the ironic thing to do now?
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Banter https://twitter.com/SiobhanFenton/status/660861430758002688
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I think that both this and the time a MOTD presenter said a defender got raped is harmless and funny bants.
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serious gaylord posted:Further to that, if any insurance company tries to claim act of god, check your policy documents. They have to specify EXACTLY what they mean by law, and its extremely unlikely animal collision will be on there. I do home and commercial property insurance rather than car insurance, but standard practice on this side of the industry is to cover you for everything and then remove or restrict cover with endorsements. If the documents don't specifically say you're not covered for accidents caused by animals, you're covered.
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I like how these people got enough guts to make rape jokes to the police. https://twitter.com/FalkirkPolice/status/655797636222623748?lang=en-gb Now this is funny.
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Pilchenstein posted:That's what I thought, what higher power's name do you invoke to put the shits up an insurance company? Just read the documents, if its specifically not there as an exception to the rule, get them so send a lovely letter pointing that out. If they still try to reject the claim, to the financial ombudsman you go.
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