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i am the bird posted:It's not. Bottom six dudes are dime a dozen in this league and Detroit has young grinders pushing for roster spots. Big money contracts can be killers but middle of the road dudes signing $4 million/forever are also major cap problems. They're easily replaced internally, but you can basically never get rid of them unless through a buyout. They also set a dumb precedent that any 'character' dudes on the team are suddenly worth that kind of money. Detroit's riddled with these contracts. The biggest problems with this deal are if Helm slows down as he gets older (likely) and the other stupid deals that accompany it. However, he's a good possession player who is responsible in his own zone, which is more than I can say for Abdelkader, Kronwall, and Ericsson. I wish he were making somewhere in the neighborhood of 2.5-3 instead, but I'm not going to complain about signing a good player for a drat change and if I don't try to consider this a small victory in Ken Holland somehow leaning toward sanity, I'm going to kill myself e: If this loving circus is going to continue, at least let my jersey stay relevant 
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I wasn't saying those bottom six types are WORTH $3.5M-$4M a year, they almost never are. It's just that's what they very often get when they hit the open market. And yes Detroit is really crippling itself handing out those types of contracts
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T-Bone posted:Radulov is an rear end in a top hat but /shrug he could still be productive. Very interested to see how Therrien uses him
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Dandy Kaiser posted:The biggest problems with this deal are if Helm slows down as he gets older (likely) and the other stupid deals that accompany it. However, he's a good possession player who is responsible in his own zone, which is more than I can say for Abdelkader, Kronwall, and Ericsson. I wish he were making somewhere in the neighborhood of 2.75-3 instead, but I'm not going to complain about signing a good player for a drat change and if I don't try to consider this a small victory in Ken Holland somehow leaning toward sanity, I'm going to kill myself Oh, sure. That's the only way I'm not losing my mind. I actually like Helm. But then you figure that Detroit is spending around $17 million on two bottom six forwards and two bottom pairing defense pairing and, well, uh.
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LmaoTheKid posted:https://twitter.com/Russostrib/status/748889343402446848 when I saw "Staal" I was momentarily excited
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i am the bird posted:Oh, sure. That's the only way I'm not losing my mind. I actually like Helm. But then you figure that Detroit is spending around $17 million on two bottom six forwards and two bottom pairing defense pairing and, well, uh. I'm just excited he didn't sign him past 35. it's learning
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The Dirty Burger posted:Very interested to see how Therrien uses him I'm a little disappointed the Devils didn't go after him. There's a big hole at wing on the 2nd line and they're one of the few teams where the 7m cap hit or whatever wouldn't matter.
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https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/748890999288500224
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Okposo, Nielsen out and Ladd in? lol
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So the Isles are going to lose Nielsen and Okposo, and maybe get Ladd? And are also keeping Fred Flintstone? Seems like the Isles will be bad again and all is right in the world.
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The Dirty Burger posted:Very interested to see how Therrien uses him I'm sure it'll work out exactly as well as Semin did.
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Montreal signed Semin last July and he was gone by December and they had so much fun they're going to try it again? 
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So uh, you're getting rid of Subban possibly because of character issues and then sign Radulov?
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Radulov is great but that makes zero sense for that team. Maybe they just miss Kovalev.
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Levitate posted:that's a pretty big loss for the Isles Huge loss, he's easily one of their 3 most important players, and most important forward after Tavares. Please come to Detroit. You won't help because they're bad and you'll probably make too much money, but then I can make fun of my Islanders fan friends forever and ever
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Campbell signs for around $2m one year contract with Chicago per LeBrun.
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The Dirty Burger posted:Okposo, Nielsen out and Ladd in? lol I think Ladd over Okposo is at least a lateral move, if not an upgrade. They'd lose a bit in scoring, but playing on JT's wing, who knows. And what they lose in scoring, they'll gain in having someone who doesn't turn the puck over and has no idea where he is on the ice half the time. Unless of course I'm severely over-estimating what Ladd provides
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MononcQc posted:So uh, you're getting rid of Subban possibly because of character issues and then sign Radulov? Well when the "character issues" are "he's black", it makes sense.
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5 games in he'll be in the pressbox and then gone by Christmas. Calling it.
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onemillionzombies posted:Campbell signs for around $2m one year contract with Chicago per LeBrun. Well that's a super bullshit sweetheart rear end deal
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Sounds like Buffalo is potentially the landing spot for Okposo And in Jimmy Vesey news: https://twitter.com/BuffNewsVogl/status/748888801808875521 edit: btw, there was rampant speculation that Vesey and his agent were both in town for the draft, so they've probably already met. I think he signs
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Kyrosiris posted:Well when the "character issues" are "he's black", it makes sense. Yeah but "he's black" is the same as "he's Russian" in the NHL.
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Kyrosiris posted:Well when the "character issues" are "he's black", it makes sense. "He's Russian" is only a couple steps below "he's black" in hockey though.
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whatis posted:Sounds like Buffalo is potentially the landing spot for Okposo They've still got another couple months to work it out, too.
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Vesey is going to be a Bruin, I believe.
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Apparently BMac thinks the Isles are giving Ladd a 7 year contract. Holy hell.
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LmaoTheKid posted:Apparently BMac thinks the Isles are giving Ladd a 7 year contract. Holy hell.  Please disregard everything I just said
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LmaoTheKid posted:Apparently BMac thinks the Isles are giving Ladd a 7 year contract. Holy hell. yeah that's gonna be a pretty iffy contract...
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garth snow wants to show islanders fans they're big players in this league by spending money in the dumbest way possible
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Detroit re-signs Marchenko, 2 years at $1.45m per. Not bad at all.
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Wings apparently offered Radulov 1 year/$5M. So either Montreal's going to sign a player with "character issues" after dumping player with "character issues", or Detroit's going to sign an expensive Russian to replace the expensive Russian that just left. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Jul 1, 2016 |
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CBJSprague24 posted:Wings apparently offered Radulov 1 year/$5M. if the Wings get Radulov for 1x5 that's pretty amazing.
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Levitate posted:yeah that's gonna be a pretty iffy contract... Iffy in the sense that it's hard to predict exactly which offseason he'll be bought out, you mean?
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montreal actually signed radulov ahahhaha I thought it was a joke
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i am the bird posted:Detroit re-signs Marchenko, 2 years at $1.45m per. Not bad at all. Less than I thought they'd give him, very happy with this. I'd like to see them bring Sproul back, if that's the kind deal they can get Marchenko on, then Sproul could potentially be had for a two-way deal under a million. Now get rid of the rest of those chucklefucks and let's try to re-build this shitpile of a defense. e: Radulov for 1/5, meh whatever fine who cares
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JollyPubJerk posted:montreal actually signed radulov ahahhaha I thought it was a joke Is there actually confirmation of this other than Yost and people referring back to Yost?
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Eric the Mauve posted:Iffy in the sense that it's hard to predict exactly which offseason he'll be bought out, you mean? depends on the structure of the contract I guess
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