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Al Cowens
Aug 11, 2004

by WE B Bourgeois

OMG JC a Bomb! posted:

Who can forget that momentous day in August, 1962 when Martin Luther King Jr. stood before scores of Americans united for righteousness and dignity and shook dat rear end in the greatest display of twerking the world had ever seen. He had a dream--that people of color and genderfluidity could one day twerk together in solidarity for all time.

Is that speech still relevant today? I say yaaaaaaaasssssssssss
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/02/the-college-where-martin-luther-king-is-problematic.html

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Hector Beerlioz
Jun 16, 2010

aw, hec
I'm more of a ctrl-right myself

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

A Pale Horse posted:

They're malignant narcissists, they actually buy their own hype and think they're wicked important activists for social justice.

This is a more accurate criticism than it might seem at first. A huge problem with the contemporary left is the gigantic explosion in social media and decades of overemphasis on individualism.

Everyone wants to be a hero.

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

Digital Fingers posted:

This is the type of dude that shouldn't be allowed to post in GBS

e: Like, "alt-right" is the leftist equivalent of "SJW" and both those terms are only used by giant morons when they get upset over different opinions but don't feel like actually explaining why they disagree and adding anything to a discussion. It's like a dude coming into DnD and posting "Just dropping by the ol' DnD, good to see you're still all a bunch of maoist SJW's. LOL peace out ya' doofuses"

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug
Blm tends to crash events that mostly consist of people who already agree with the general thrust of the movement even if they dislike the narcissistic face. Thats why you saw them doing poo poo like crashing sanders rallies, cause he was the only politician that would actually let them talk. If they pull one of their stunts with crowds that don't like them they just get thrown out and are well aware of this, so instead they choose poo poo like pride parades even though that mostly just shoots their own public image in the foot.

Al Cowens
Aug 11, 2004

by WE B Bourgeois
Working with Canadians anecdote: A probable autist I knew that eavesdropped on other people's conversations and whenever a thing was described in terms of miles, pounds, or degrees Fahrenheit, he would chime in, calculator at the ready, with the metric or centigrade equivalent. Did not have a cell phone for whatever neurotic reason and threw tantrums that the few pay phones left in Los Angeles didn't accept toonies. Kept bringing up the CN Tower's height at weird times.

Average Canadian citizen

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Al Cowens posted:

Working with Canadians anecdote: A probable autist I knew that eavesdropped on other people's conversations and whenever a thing was described in terms of miles, pounds, or degrees Fahrenheit, he would chime in, calculator at the ready, with the metric or centigrade equivalent. Did not have a cell phone for whatever neurotic reason and threw tantrums that the few pay phones left in Los Angeles didn't accept toonies. Kept bringing up the CN Tower's height at weird times.

on the whole i enjoyed my time in LA as part of the international exchange program

I hate yankees
Apr 29, 2008

promote racial segregation? check

dismiss mlk? check

we're on a roll boys xirs

Snatch Duster
Feb 20, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Nothing is worse than Canadian patriotism.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

ArbitraryC posted:

If they pull one of their stunts with crowds that don't like them they just get thrown out and are well aware of this, so instead they choose poo poo like pride parades even though that mostly just shoots their own public image in the foot.
i'm glad that self-styled social justice movements lack the conviction and courage to make themselves known in spaces where people think that they're subhuman. it bodes very well for the future of society

we'll never have an end to systemic economic inequality, but by god we'll have more representation (whatever the gently caress that means) at places where black people are more accepted

MasterSitsu
Nov 23, 2013

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Brannock posted:

This is a more accurate criticism than it might seem at first. A huge problem with the contemporary left is the gigantic explosion in social media and decades of overemphasis on individualism.

Everyone wants to be a hero.

pretty much. the problem is the push "everyone can be a hero" but at the same time "gently caress you for trying to be a hero, its problamtic and toxic." the left is broke.



ArbitraryC posted:

Blm tends to crash events that mostly consist of people who already agree with the general thrust of the movement even if they dislike the narcissistic face. Thats why you saw them doing poo poo like crashing sanders rallies, cause he was the only politician that would actually let them talk. If they pull one of their stunts with crowds that don't like them they just get thrown out and are well aware of this, so instead they choose poo poo like pride parades even though that mostly just shoots their own public image in the foot.

Its because they believe (and probably rightly so) that if they did this poo poo to the right in the open, they would get the gently caress kicked out of them. they want to be emotional victims/martyrs. not real ones. same with the alt right. the Issue is the alt right knows how to market its horribleness enough. the alt left doesnt. the alt left come of like overly sheltered evanglicals but with out the faith and more outwardly dickish and left leaning.

Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Jul 4, 2016

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Dapper_Swindler posted:

they want to be emotional victims/martyrs. not real ones.
medgar evers and the three civil rights workers that were lynched in Mississippi would certainly be proud of these brave heroes' sacrifice to twerk on stage at a non-hostile event

Al Cowens
Aug 11, 2004

by WE B Bourgeois

Snatch Duster posted:

Nothing is worse than Canadian patriotism.
We're so humble eh. Not smug like those Americans eh. Very polite eh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCyzdD0vYOw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZE0TuKTpo4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRI-A3vakVg

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Y-Hat posted:

medgar evers and the three civil rights workers that were lynched in Mississippi would certainly be proud of these brave heroes' sacrifice to twerk on stage at a non-hostile event

thats whats sad. I watched streams from the justice for jamar(its the one the /pol/tards should up at, and then poo poo happend and people got hurt) protests. it was the same things over and over again. some chanting, some dude would lead insperational prayer that sounded like the end of a movie, lovely music, twerking. some white kid would throw poo poo at a cop, and people would prostrait themselves neare police cars. then some old hippies would talk, then some white hipsters. then some black people. and nothing would happen.

Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Jul 4, 2016

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Story my girl tells of her time in Canada that should make all Americans worry.

She was in an airport bar in Vancouver on 9/11, and realized it was time to get out of the country because of the fact that not only were people cheering the towers coming down, those who weren't were agreeing that the US was getting what we deserve, and it would be a good time for the Canadian armed forces to finally invade.

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

RFC2324 posted:

Story my girl tells of her time in Canada that should make all Americans worry.

She was in an airport bar in Vancouver on 9/11, and realized it was time to get out of the country because of the fact that not only were people cheering the towers coming down, those who weren't were agreeing that the US was getting what we deserve, and it would be a good time for the Canadian armed forces to finally invade.

fw: fw: FW: fw: FW: fw: FW:

Al Cowens
Aug 11, 2004

by WE B Bourgeois
I remember the political climate at the time so I'm inclined to believe RFC2324's anecdote.

A Pale Horse
Jul 29, 2007

Flocons de Jambon posted:

Toronto Pride started as protest movement just like BLM, except the institutional racism that BLM opposes is, in my opinion, more serious than what homosexuals faced. BLM can milk them of all their Pizza Pizza money for all I care.

I agree gently caress gay people, they have it so good and always have and then they have the temerity to have a party about it instead of giving the money to real victims like every single black person ever.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

paul_soccer10 posted:

6. taxonomic ranking of the races

why are blacks people but natives only "folk"

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Fashionable Jorts posted:

Not wanting cops to have a float at pride parades is pretty legit.

Cops tend not to give a poo poo about keeping LGBT folk safe. Knew of a couple 60 year old gay men who were attacked by a group of university students, and when they went to the police, the cops pretty much said "are you sure you didn't start the fight?"

That being said, this BLM thing in Toronto is a joke, and the way they are going about it is probably the worst way they can go to gain support.
It's not legit. The only way to get police to care about LGBTs is to build alliances with those very same police forces. Kicking the police out is dumb, dumb, dumb. Good thing the Pride organizers are saying that's not gonna happen.

Seven years ago police raided a gay bar in the next town over from me, gave one patron a brain injury, and alleged the patrons came onto them (as the cops were beating people).

There were protests but afterwards:

quote:

The city hastily created a diversity task force and enacted diversity training for city staff. The Police Department changed its policy on handling bar checks and created an LGBT liaison, which promoted communication between police and the gay community.

Other more recent initiatives, including anti-bullying programs in schools, were outgrowths from the Rainbow Lounge,

“That’s what made my organization change,” said Cpl. Tracey Knight, the police liaison to the LGBT community. “That and leadership. There has been a massive culture change.”

Todd Camp, a gay activist, said Fort Worth has grown much friendlier toward the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community in five years. Now, maybe an eyebrow or two are raised when two men are seen embracing in public, but gone are the angry fist pumps.

The very people who were locked in a furious battle of words over the Rainbow Lounge incident now have open lines of communication to address problems long before they become more serious.

Last week, Halstead, other members of the Police Department, the school district and city officials and representatives of the gay community got together for a quarterly luncheon. The calm atmosphere at the Fort Worth Botanic Garden’s restaurant stood in stark contrast to the event that brought them there.

“What could fester, doesn’t,” said Jon Nelson, former president of Fairness Fort Worth, which was formed after the incident. “These lines of communication are safety valves. Before Rainbow Lounge, we didn’t have the mechanisms we needed for redress. Now we can solve problems in minutes.”

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/fort-worth/article3863477.html
There's also openly gay police officers marching in the parade now, which wasn't a thing a few years ago -- because there were still fears higher-ups in the police department would sack them:

http://www.dallasvoice.com/tarrant-pride-larger-police-presence-10127910.html

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Jul 4, 2016

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
BLM should focus on building relationships with the police in their own community instead of trying to sabotage decades of hard, necessary work in another.

Snatch Duster
Feb 20, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Unlike America, Canada has nothing to be proud of

social vegan
Nov 7, 2014



lol it's like u guys didn't even see the animated gif of the cop dancignn w the black man we're good now

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Snatch Duster posted:

Unlike America, Canada has nothing to be proud of

I was gonna make a comment about them being good at hockey, but no canadian team has won the Stanley Cup since 1993.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Wikkheiser posted:

BLM should focus on building relationships with the police in their own community instead of trying to sabotage decades of hard, necessary work in another.

didnt obama call parts of the BLM out on not coming to the table often enough? because it seems to me like they rairly do and when they do, the move the goal post.

tenspott
Aug 1, 2002

by FactsAreUseless
Why not just join Caribana? Wouldn't that make more sense?

City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot
it makes sense to just sign whatever document that the crazy person wanted so you could continue your parade, and then next year just make sure that there's extra cops on hand to bust heads in the event of an interruption

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

tenspott posted:

Why not just join Caribana? Wouldn't that make more sense?

Caribana is already a total shitshow.

That's not counting the shootings.

How long until people start a gofundme legal defence fund for BLM girl pillaging her treasury because #giveyourmoneytowomen #reparations.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Dapper_Swindler posted:

didnt obama call parts of the BLM out on not coming to the table often enough? because it seems to me like they rairly do and when they do, the move the goal post.
Yep. Basically, said they're good at calling attention to problems but aren't able (or even willing) to solve them, which requires different tactics than yelling.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

Wikkheiser posted:

Yep. Basically, said they're good at calling attention to problems but aren't able (or even willing) to solve them, which requires different tactics than yelling.

DId they respond with "Th-th-that's tone-policing...Fam."

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Wikkheiser posted:

Yep. Basically, said they're good at calling attention to problems but aren't able (or even willing) to solve them, which requires different tactics than yelling.

thats whats disappointing. I think things could be accomplished, but neither side is trying.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Getting high off rage is easier and more fulfilling than sitting down in a board room and doing boring talking to actually solve problems

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Mordja posted:

DId they respond with "Th-th-that's tone-policing...Fam."

Figure out a way to incorporate "Folks" and I think you'll be on target.

Acid Haze
Feb 16, 2009

:parrot:

Frosted Flake posted:

Pride Toronto's executive director says he signed list of demands to get parade moving


http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/toronto/black-lives-matter-pride-protest-1.3663250

They're going to blow a gasket.

Also lololol who put these clowns in charge?

One of the co-founders of BLM paid herself $247 700 in severance when she lost her student union election, 10% of their budget. She also claimed $30k in overtime for 1975 hrs of overtime, filed on a single day, after losing the election.


http://thevarsity.ca/2015/09/24/utsu-sues-former-executive-director-president-vice-president-internal-and-services/

Hahaha, they made little gay baby caskets.

Stocky Manhood
Jul 29, 2014

Can I get a hat wobble?

tenspott posted:

Just speaking out of experience - Canada is America's dorky little brother that copies him in everything he does in an effort to seem cooler than he really is.

Id still rather live with the dorky little brother than the maladjusted, psychopathic older brother

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Dapper_Swindler posted:

thats whats disappointing. I think things could be accomplished, but neither side is trying.
Well, I think there might be things being accomplished, we're just not hearing about it because the people getting work done ... are out getting work done and not grandstanding for media attention.

Fojar38 posted:

Getting high off rage is easier and more fulfilling than sitting down in a board room and doing boring talking to actually solve problems
Yep.

And boring meetings in boardrooms are not easily retweeted.

Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

This is an interesting little interview. It's neat to see them both double-talk around the issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq_MZEECq68

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Tarkus posted:

This is an interesting little interview. It's neat to see them both double-talk around the issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq_MZEECq68

yeah but the dude interviewing is nut too. http://www.rightwingwatch.org/category/people/jesse-lee-peterson
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/jesse-lee-peterson-were-race-war-and-only-real-republican-trump-can-stop-it
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/jesse-lee-peterson-only-traitors-obama-disagree-trump-muslim-immigration

and ton of others. the dude is a litteral uncle tom alt right theocrat.

but yeah the others arnt any better,

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Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000


Oh I know, by the word both I meant both the interviewer and the guests. but it is an interesting interview.

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