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Xerxes17 posted:Not a single Leader unit, shameful. Especially since Fallschirmjäger get three whole stars of veterancy with a leader which makes them even more of an unstoppable killing machine.
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In the last few games I've played with goons vs pubbies, most of my kills seem to have been shooting down enemy planes with fighters
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Apr 10, 2017 19:44
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2nd Infantry should be interesting. Rangers aplenty!
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Apr 10, 2017 20:02
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I think supply trucks should be able to repair tanks/reinforce infantry. Just galls me to throw away damaged infantry units and i liked how Wargame rewarded you for having good supply lines. Also the Luftlande regiment has the strongest Phase A imo. You can drown everything in cheap MGs, PAKs, flammenwerfers and erzatstruppen. Fallschirmjager are murderous but people are loving themselves by using them as their line units.
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Apr 10, 2017 20:33
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Dandywalken posted:2nd Infantry should be interesting. Rangers aplenty! DD M4A1 Shermans and good infantry in phase A? Sounds good to me.
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Apr 10, 2017 21:05
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This game seems to address all my issues with Wargame, from needing a line of sight indicator to just a smaller scale of battle. Also the phases make deck building way less intimidating for my scrub self.
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Apr 10, 2017 22:02
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TV dog Wishbone of PBS posted:Also the Luftlande regiment has the strongest Phase A imo. You can drown everything in cheap MGs, PAKs, flammenwerfers and erzatstruppen. I came across this. My 3rd Armoured got wrecked in phase A by Luft support weapons out the wazoo. Later on I returned the favour in phase C with a horde of Shermans.
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Apr 10, 2017 22:19
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TV dog Wishbone of PBS posted:I think supply trucks should be able to repair tanks/reinforce infantry. Just galls me to throw away damaged infantry units and i liked how Wargame rewarded you for having good supply Kinds glad nanites are gone, personally. Makes engagements matter more and makes a close fight less zero sum since losses and crits are permanent. I think people would hate maglan in RD less if they couldn't be reinforced.
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Apr 10, 2017 22:42
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Had a 10v10 where I was holding a middle lane against, at one point, three different players worth of stuff. We were crushed, and I was basically fighting from right outside the spawn zone by the time Phase B started, but I did get the most kills (and took the second-most losses but hey) important lesson learned: not having your AT positioned properly as LL sucks. as does facing three players worth of shermans and halftracks, which in part resulted from the first problem and was in part a contributing factor to it (having your Stugs repeatedly triple teamed is not good for their longevity) 
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Apr 10, 2017 22:53
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I am a low APM bad with an aging and doddering brain, but I really like pretty much everything Eugen has done here even if it's taking me longer than you "kids" to wrap my head around it. I kind of want to try a hard mechanized open with the HJ group -- use the Beef Panzer to back up a shitload of armored cars to just spearhead in somewhere and quickly back-fill territory with AT guns and chaff infantry.
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Apr 10, 2017 22:53
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I truly loved Ruse but I did not enjoy their later games. I am not sure exactly why,I can't put my finger on it. I felt kind of overwhelmed with the HUGE variety of units and very high number of units you had to control? Which is weird because I do enjoy complicated strategy games. How do I know what to pick from 40 different units which all look similar but are all tweaked a little different and, with a point buy and no guidance, decide what to pick from thousands of others? Is there less variety in the number of units? Do you control less? Are the maps any smaller? Map size is not really a problem I guess. Ruse had huge maps and it is one of the best RTS games i've ever played. Hubis posted:I am a low APM bad with an aging and doddering brain, but I really like pretty much everything Eugen has done here even if it's taking me longer than you "kids" to wrap my head around it. Edit: To the extent I did play Wargames, I really enjoyed infantry because I could use them to try to hold down strategic choke points while everyone else did uh, other stuff. Are infantry fun here? Diogines fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Apr 10, 2017 |
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Apr 10, 2017 23:07
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Because of the way deck building resolves around picking a specific division you won't be inundated with a bunch of variants and what not.
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Apr 10, 2017 23:11
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Diogines posted:I truly loved Ruse but I did not enjoy their later games. I am not sure exactly why,I can't put my finger on it. I felt kind of overwhelmed with the HUGE variety of units and very high number of units you had to control? Which is weird because I do enjoy complicated strategy games. How do I know what to pick from 40 different units which all look similar but are all tweaked a little different and, with a point buy and no guidance, decide what to pick from thousands of others? You can have variable map sizes Here's a game I just played, I don't think it was too complicated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVl6L2Xpdjk
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Apr 10, 2017 23:12
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SDN44 is slow as gently caress and the unit variety is definitely pared down compared to Wargame. Furthermore, there is no 'general' deck like in wargame which reduces the choices even more once you've chosen a division. Unlike Wargame, you pick a type of army and have to accept the pros and cons of it, so you don't get to sift through every type of unit that exists in the game when deck-building.
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Apr 10, 2017 23:18
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Diogines posted:Edit: To the extent I did play Wargames, I really enjoyed infantry because I could use them to try to hold down strategic choke points while everyone else did uh, other stuff. Are infantry fun here? Infantry are loads of fun in this game. You can absolutely focus on infantry plus support units and do just fine.
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Apr 10, 2017 23:23
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I keep forgetting to check this in game, but what units can fire smoke? is it just all artillery?
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Apr 10, 2017 23:27
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Played my first multiplayer game today, this is my first one of these type of games I think I did ok just threw hundreds of scots at the dastardly FJ.
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Apr 10, 2017 23:27
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 Biggest stomp so far. Two guys feeding tanks and FSJ at me for 20 minutes, followed by the most incredible armoured assault by my teammate. Wish i had recorded this.
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Apr 10, 2017 23:28
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The setting, 3 phase system and the narrower unit scope for each division has made me enjoy this game so much more than Wargame. I feel like I can competently put together a deck.
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Apr 10, 2017 23:29
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HannibalBarca posted:I keep forgetting to check this in game, but what units can fire smoke? is it just all artillery? Nah, many cannot. You can see in the statcard of those that can will have an additional "smoke" version of the weapon. Edit: Bloody hell they're getting serious about mod support: http://forums.eugensystems.com/viewforum.php?f=205 quote:Here is a first feature list of the modding tools: Shanakin fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Apr 10, 2017 |
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Apr 10, 2017 23:30
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Shanakin posted:Edit: Bloody hell they're getting serious about mod support: looking forward to the mods that add a 100-strength armor Maus tank to the game.
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Apr 10, 2017 23:41
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gently caress yes I'm in. Time to earn my old Av.
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I feel like recon is far less important this time around, and that instead maintaining effective leadership and organization is the new equivalent for it. Your units fight so much better with a leader around it's like night and day.
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Apr 10, 2017 23:52
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TV dog Wishbone of PBS posted:
If I'm not mistaken, replays are automatically saved. I think it was Windows/User/Documents/My Saved Games?
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Xerxes17 posted:I feel like recon is far less important this time around, and that instead maintaining effective leadership and organization is the new equivalent for it. Your units fight so much better with a leader around it's like night and day. Compared to the highly connected, highly lethal battleground of WW3 I think that is also a thematically appropriate difference (even if only accidental).
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Apr 11, 2017 00:14
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Really? A couple hundred meters of additional sight seems pretty critical to me so far.
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Apr 11, 2017 00:31
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Murgos posted:Really? A couple hundred meters of additional sight seems pretty critical to me so far. It's definitely good for LL, that relies heavily on Henschels to take out tanks in a pinch, to be able to have guaranteed LoS on a tank at all times from recon units
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Apr 11, 2017 00:47
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Anybody gotten any mass surrenders? I had a game today where I came around a corner and found probably 5 or 6 infantry units out in the open so i just rushed them with my M3s and captured the whole bunch of em.
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Apr 11, 2017 00:48
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Murgos posted:Really? A couple hundred meters of additional sight seems pretty critical to me so far. Infantry have Medium optics as is, and on Pointe Du Hoc you're not getting multi hundred meter sightlines anyway. Recon feels pretty important for artillery and armor play, but there's a lot of infantry knife fights this time around.
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Apr 11, 2017 01:19
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Hedgerow Hell is real and it is horrifying
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Apr 11, 2017 01:24
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Popete posted:Have the said how many divisions will be in release? Someone on the Paradox forums put together a comprehensive list of divisions from the various press releases and streams and one of the devs endorsed it in the thread: pdox forums posted:This is a list I've been keeping track of, and updating since the game was launched. The devblog today fit the last piece in.
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Apr 11, 2017 01:41
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You don't need recon to see things in the open, yeah. But you do need recon to see AT gun in trees before you are too close. Standard infantry won't spot AT gun in cover until 300m or so.
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:Anybody gotten any mass surrenders? I had a game today where I came around a corner and found probably 5 or 6 infantry units out in the open so i just rushed them with my M3s and captured the whole bunch of em. They need to make it a little clearer when units might surrender.
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quote:I love this game don't get me wrong I am a huge strategy fan and history fan but man the panther and panzer 4 and even stugs are so underpowered in this game. Panthers should be able to kill any allied tank at well over 1000 meters. Yet they do the opposite. Also they tend to miss more than they hit. And before you say I'm doing something wrong or I'm a noob believe me I'm not. I have a 80% win ratio in the wargame franchise and hundreds of hours of gameplay. And frankly most likely better than the majority of the current players in SD44. The German tanks need to be stronger to reflect their price in game. And ffs do something about tank accuracy in general. It gets even better when people call him out for being a Wehraboo http://steamcommunity.com/app/572410/discussions/0/133261907141660364/ According to TNSMOKEY here, the Panther should be able to hit and pen a sherman at 1800m range with every shot, while bouncing everything it takes.
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Arglebargle III posted:They need to make it a little clearer when units might surrender. As far as I can tell: Pinned, Not within borders of it's frontline, engaged by an enemy at close(ish) range.
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That's my favorite thing about my Scottish deck, I have a bunch of universal carriers sitting around, so especially on Point Du Hac whenever someone pushes infantry across the front you can just roll up, spray them with MG for a bit and then cap them.Phrosphor posted:It gets even better when people call him out for being a Wehraboo My favorite is the one at the bottom of the first page with an anime in an SS cap. Of course that's a thing, why wouldn't it be a thing, gently caress. Orv fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Apr 11, 2017 |
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Apr 11, 2017 03:32
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Orv posted:My favorite is the one at the bottom of the first page with an anime in an SS cap. Of course that's a thing, why wouldn't it be a thing, gently caress. Not only is it A Thing, it is a very prevalent Thing and has been for several years.
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Orv posted:My favorite is the one at the bottom of the first page with an anime in an SS cap. Of course that's a thing, why wouldn't it be a thing, gently caress. where have you been for the last 4 years?
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Blissfully ignorant, apparently. I miss it already.
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