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90s Cringe Rock posted:Sociopastry, ever been asked to use a celebrity as a face or body model? Like, “please draw a trumptaur ejaculating clowns” sort of thing. I already said I wouldn't draw goon's fetishes.  jabby posted:A self-portrait? Hahahaa, thanks, but naw. I wouldn't describe myself as a lady, I don't like business suits, but the vaguely annoyed thing is on brand. It was very much the stereotypical "boss lady" kind of thing, I think. Like, he wasn't creepily detailed about it, which makes me think it wasn't someone he knew. I never took ones where it was like "please draw this person who I am obviously into IRL that did not give consent for this". If both people involved were into it, then I was okay with it. Drew a few cute pin ups for one lady to send to her husband overseas.
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What kind of weird poo poo did you have to look at in order to research your art? Like did you look at other fetish art, or did you have to find close up pictures of actual animal genitalia? If I asked you to draw me some cocks, how many distinctly different kinds of cocks could you draw from memory?
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Sorry I took so long to reply, been doing real life poo poo. Mostly I just looked up animal photos for poo poo. I already liked drawing dicks and bits and puss, so the rest was filler. I can draw you so many dicks, my dude. So many.
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Aug 9, 2017 07:54
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On the subject of research, did you ever feel it necessary to do more than look at character designs to fulfill a commission for characters from a show/game/whatever? Like for that horrible comic putting Twilight Sparkle in her place, did you watch the show to get her mannerisms right?
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Aug 9, 2017 07:57
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Oh, I watched the show before that. I used to watch my little pony tales all the time as a kid, so when they came out with the new show I watched it for a while because it was cute and made me feel nostalgic. To answer your question more seriously tho, I did at least try to do some research on most common characters to get their mannerisms right.
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Aug 9, 2017 08:09
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Sociopastry posted:Oh, I watched the show before that. I used to watch my little pony tales all the time as a kid, so when they came out with the new show I watched it for a while because it was cute and made me feel nostalgic. No judgement here, it was a legitimate social phenomenon 5 years ago and a good show to boot, overly obsessed fans aside.
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Aug 9, 2017 08:13
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What was the least demanding or 'busy' commission you got. "Art me up some boning, I don't really care what." What's the most 'bits' you've had to draw for a single commission? Anything like those hilarious ancient Roman good luck charms that are basically a dick, riding another dick, which has its own dick and another dick for a tail.
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Aug 9, 2017 09:31
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Did anyone ever call your dick drawing skills into question Did a customer ever want the naughty bits redone for quality reasons How into having the most perfectly drawn genitalia were your customers
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Aug 9, 2017 19:17
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Sociopastry posted:It was really gross and hosed up and I ended up having to go over a lot of the worst poo poo in therapy.
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Aug 9, 2017 19:42
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ninjewtsu posted:please tell us about the vagina salmon was it the start of a slippery slope
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Aug 9, 2017 21:58
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Rockopolis posted:What was the least demanding or 'busy' commission you got. "Art me up some boning, I don't really care what." most boring was the one I explained earlier- dude just wanted a nicely dressed professional lady looking kinda annoyed, as for the second one: probably the cockmonster. It's pretty self explanatory- it was a tentacle monster, but made entirely out of cocks. Just cocks for days ninjewtsu posted:Did anyone ever call your dick drawing skills into question Bronies were usually the worst for it- I'm real good at drawing human dicks, and less so at drawing horse cocks. it was a little bit of a learning curve because I didn't really wanna look at references of horse cocks for too long. most of the furries I worked with were understanding when I explained this and were just like "okay cool just draw a normal boner but with weird colors/lots fo cum" but bronies were usually loving awful to work with and would loudly complain on forums and the like, thus decreasing my sales if I didn't meet their specifications. Bum the Sad posted:Dude you gotta tell us how this went, I doubt there's too many therapists who consider themselves experts in "getting harrassed online while I draw dragons and bees loving." Hey so no on this. I'm not gonna talk too much about my trauma because that's not what this thread is about and I don't feel super good talking about it to randos on the internet. sebmojo posted:was it the start of a slippery slope it was like, midway down the slippery slope. first part was probably the cum fetishists/bukkake fetishists.
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Aug 9, 2017 22:18
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Well, yes, that's why the slope is slippery.
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Boo Also lol at internet trauma, especially when using an anonymous handle.
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Aug 9, 2017 23:23
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Well, no, I had other trauma not related to drawing internet porn but thanks for being an rear end in a top hat. OwlFancier posted:Well, yes, that's why the slope is slippery. You'd think it'd be more sticky than slippery.
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I literally just asked how your therapist responded to be confronted with bizarre internet scenarios and nothing else. Like people are coming on drawings of my fox persona or smacking dicks on a monitor. As that’s what you mentioned therapy about not anything deeper. Now you’re trying to divert attention to your ~*~troubled past~*~ even though no one asked about it while pretending not to.
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Aug 9, 2017 23:30
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Bum, just drop it. Please.
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Aug 9, 2017 23:55
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k cool so anyway there's a weird fascination with furries when it comes to unnatural colors in their fursonas, most notably in soft tissues. A lot of neon colors, a lot of rainbows, what have you. Most of y'all have probably seen a sparkledog, or at least heard of them. So usually this isn't a huge problem, except when it came to what I like to call the Color Clusterfuck. So I check my email and find a new commission request- this person wants a cum commission with their fursona- as they descirbed it, they just wanted their fursona with cum all over their belly/crotch from having just jerked it. Okay, whatever, sounds easy. I accept and send them an email asking for specifics for their fursona. Usually, people will send me picture references they've either made or commissioned from someone else unwilling to do porn, or just describe it in general. Like, usually it'd be like "she's a white rabbit with neon blue mouth/pussy and she likes to wear goth clothes and has pink eyes" or whatever. Instead, I receive a 2,000 word (not an exaggeration) email detailing their fursona. It was a tiger/leopard cross, but all their markings were neon rainbows- and they were all incredibly specific on where and in what order they went. The red/yellow neon gradient stripe could not be above the red/yellow neon leopard spots, and they had to go in a gradient from top to bottom, and their paw pads were a round gradient of these SPECIFIC colors (I think it was sea foam and orange, iirc). Like, jesus, this dude was so specific. There was like a whole paragraph on the cock alone, because of course that too had a super specific set of colors in a certain order. I spent so loving long on that commission alone that I ended up charging him twice as much for time involved because it was the same level of work in the end as the comics that some people would commission. he grumbled, but I said he wasn't gonna get the commission unless he paid me what I asked for it and I guess I was the only one willing to take it on, because he did. So I got 800$ of tasty tasty commission money, and he got his Color Clusterfuck. The cum was normal. edit to add: also this dude had the worst taste in color design. like, normally rainbows look a little busy characterwise, but this guy had specific color choices that made it look terrible- it couldn't be your normal candy apple red for the red, instead it was this weird, slightly dusky but still neon red? it's hard to describe, I'll see if I can find an example.  it was like a cross between the bands on the teeth and the gums- a really strangely washed out red that clashed horribly with the bright sunny orange.
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Sociopastry posted:most boring was the one I explained earlier- dude just wanted a nicely dressed professional lady looking kinda annoyed, What I should have asked was, "What is the absolute simplest, least detailed commission you ever got. Like, to the point where you have to go and ask them because they don't give you enough details to work with. As a contrast to things like that 2000 word essay on rainbow fur. Reminds me of that Oglaf comic where the couple has sex so garishly it looks like an acid trip. Do you ever see yourself doing that kind of thing, where it's like humour and erotica?
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Aug 10, 2017 00:32
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Sociopastry posted:The cum was normal. I take it there were times the cum was not normal. Speaking of body tissues and fluids that aren't supposed to be that color, ever get asked to draw candy-gore?
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Aug 10, 2017 00:35
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I had not heard of or seen a sparkledog and I just googled it. As a colourblind it's actually kind of weird having someone be that specific about colour, like I literally have no concept of that. Strange.
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Aug 10, 2017 00:36
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OwlFancier posted:I had not heard of or seen a sparkledog and I just googled it. Ditto, and Jesus gently caress is it possible to get tinnitus of the eyes?
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Aug 10, 2017 00:38
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I feel like that's a good name for the weird visual pulsing you get when you look at a big field of contrasting colours. Though again that might not be a thing everyone gets. It's like someone took punk or cybergoth or something and dropped any of the actual style. Either that or someone put the normal map in the diffuse slot.
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Rockopolis posted:Right, and I just realized that I asked the wrong question, because apparently I can post while I'm asleep. Hahaha, sorry, my bad. So, the no-detail requests happen a lot more often than you'd think. I'd usually have to ask for constant clarification on things. Did they have a normal dick, or a dog dick? Who was on top? did they want it in my style, or another style? did they want a background? did they want speech bubbles? did they want them to have hairstyles, or just fur? It was honestly infuriating dealing with these people. It was... hmmm. The closest thing I can think of is like trying to have sex with someone that insists that yes, they want sex, but they literally don't react to anything you do and get annoyed when you stop. Or you do something and then afterwards they're like "hey you should already know I don't like that thing, despite me never telling you that. it should be obvious." eventually I came up with a basic form to fill out for people like that. the humor and erotica ones were my favorite, because I think there should be the ability to laugh when it comes to sex. it's weird, your bodies are doing weird things, sometimes somebody farts on accident- there should be room for laughter and joy. so I always enjoyed the commissions where it was obvious that the person involved didn't take themselves or their fetish too seriously. I had one where this guy wanted me to do a transformation comic- only instead of ending in sex it ended with the person transformed into a boring object- a pen- by accident and being vaguely annoyed that they'd hosed up. It was more of a funny thing than anything, and as a bonus I got to make a ton of "ball-point pen" jokes. I love puns.  IMJack posted:I take it there were times the cum was not normal. OwlFancier posted:I had not heard of or seen a sparkledog and I just googled it. jabby posted:Ditto, and Jesus gently caress is it possible to get tinnitus of the eyes? OwlFancier posted:I feel like that's a good name for the weird visual pulsing you get when you look at a big field of contrasting colours. I get these jokes! There's not a lot of taste or knowledge of good character design in the furry fandom, mostly. It is a Problem.
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I read an interview once where the fetish artist basically just said that people would be weirdly coy about what they wanted, given that they were paying multiple hundreds of dollars for custom fetish porn. I assume that's a universal experience
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Oh, yeah. Honestly, later on I got more testy () about it, and basically just said "look, you're emailing me, a person who draws uncommon fetish porn. We both know you're going to masturbate to it later, just tell me what you want."
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Did you ever get requests for fetish porn that was self-deprecating? I mean did someone ask you for something like a superheroine juggling uterus fish while saying something like "I can't believe you'd ask me to do this!" or something of that nature. I suppose a more broad question might be "did you ever have people try to get you to shame them for their fetishes?"
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Ohhhh man. yeah, being shamed is a huge thing that got requested a lot. I was okay with drawing the objects of their fetishes shaming them, because whatever. I did not participate, no matter how much they tried. And they did try. A lot. I used to be a lot angrier as a person, and it did come across even when I was being polite or casual, I guess. My older friends described it as a "gently caress you" vibe. I was just kinda angry in general, and that was like a goddamn lamp to the gross shame fetish moths. They tried all the time to get me to say "that's weird, that's a weird fetish and you should feel bad" or call them disgusting for having those urges, or just for having sexual urges of any kind. I already wrote about the dude that would send me videos of him loving himself with dildos while begging me to step on him/punch him/choke him/degrade him for having sexual thoughts. It was very weird. Honestly, if y'all don't mind creepy sad dudes whackin' it to you, get you a webcam and just make fun of them for money. I know a couple of ladies that make absolute bank doing it.
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Haha, that's great. My former job as a clerk left me with an unhealthy appreciation for bureaucracy, so whenever someone says "basic form" I wonder just how basic is basic. Like dropdown boxes and dynamic fields? Automatic fee estimates? Tax form complexity, where you have to "fill out subsection boob with the results from section rear end, use the quotient derived in box box to determine the base rate of the commission, before fetishes are itemized in section..." Ever make, or do you know of artists who make 'made-to-measure' erotica, instead bespoke erotica? Save time on comissions by feeding standardized forms into a computer script and cross-referencing pre-drawn art of common features? I just want to hear that there's a hash table full of dongs out there or that you there's a programmer cusing null penis errors or something.
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Rockopolis posted:Ever make, or do you know of artists who make 'made-to-measure' erotica, instead bespoke erotica? Save time on comissions by feeding standardized forms into a computer script and cross-referencing pre-drawn art of common features? This sounds like those old flash 'games' where you make your own sonic OC by selecting from pre-drawn face shapes, quill numbers, colors, shoes, etc, and I'm giggling like a loon.
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Those exist, my dudes. I know some folks make a good living off of doing bespoke porn. Usually it's a premade template of two fursonas loving and you pay to have them customized to your fursona. Like adoptables, but with porn.
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I respect your desire not to post your art in this thread, but hot drat, do I want to see that rainbowstrosity. It sounds... majestic.
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Sociopastry posted:Those exist, my dudes. I know some folks make a good living off of doing bespoke porn. Usually it's a premade template of two fursonas loving and you pay to have them customized to your fursona. Like adoptables, but with porn. I'm imagining a huge-rear end paragraph of "no wings, chest dicks, anything-taurs, sexless smoothgroined monsters, or whales for heads because that would gently caress up the composition and defeat the purpose of the template, you dumbass" Also: Antivehicular posted:I respect your desire not to post your art in this thread, but hot drat, do I want to see that rainbowstrosity. It sounds... majestic. Also also, what's the weirdest animal you've ever drawn loving? 
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Sociopastry posted:Ohhhh man. yeah, being shamed is a huge thing that got requested a lot. I was okay with drawing the objects of their fetishes shaming them, because whatever. I did not participate, no matter how much they tried. And they did try. A lot. I used to be a lot angrier as a person, and it did come across even when I was being polite or casual, I guess. My older friends described it as a "gently caress you" vibe. I was just kinda angry in general, and that was like a goddamn lamp to the gross shame fetish moths. They tried all the time to get me to say "that's weird, that's a weird fetish and you should feel bad" or call them disgusting for having those urges, or just for having sexual urges of any kind. I already wrote about the dude that would send me videos of him loving himself with dildos while begging me to step on him/punch him/choke him/degrade him for having sexual thoughts. It was very weird. FinDom doesn't even require the camera. It also doesn't actually involve sharks. https://thefpl.us/episode/256 OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Aug 10, 2017 |
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Blue Footed Booby posted:I'm imagining a huge-rear end paragraph of "no wings, chest dicks, anything-taurs, sexless smoothgroined monsters, or whales for heads because that would gently caress up the composition and defeat the purpose of the template, you dumbass" But a lot of those sound like they'd come up often enough you'd come up with templates for those too. What's the weirdest actual fact about sex you've learned during this?
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Did anyone ever ask you to draw something illegal? I know ageplay and diaperfur is a thing. And no, before anyone asks, I'm not asking for myself.
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Rockopolis posted:Charge extra for that, like a tailor billing for a bespoke suit. Well yeah, but then you'd have non centaurs bidding on the centaur template because they've just gotta ice-skate uphill. Edit: I left a couple words out of that but I'm just going to leave it because I'm enjoying imagining that some of you are literally centaurs.
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Antivehicular posted:I respect your desire not to post your art in this thread, but hot drat, do I want to see that rainbowstrosity. It sounds... majestic. Just eat approximately ten pounds of lovely jelly beans, barf them out onto something black, and then put some neon up. You'll get the same effect. Blue Footed Booby posted:I'm imagining a huge-rear end paragraph of "no wings, chest dicks, anything-taurs, sexless smoothgroined monsters, or whales for heads because that would gently caress up the composition and defeat the purpose of the template, you dumbass" As for weirdest animal... probably a tardigrade. Yes, those microscopic little water bear dudes. OwlFancier posted:FinDom doesn't even require the camera. Well, gently caress. Now I gotta go start a findom account, brb. (kidding. also go subscribe to the f plus if you enjoy weird internet tourism, which, if you're reading this thread, you do. ) Rockopolis posted:Charge extra for that, like a tailor billing for a bespoke suit. Oh for sure. Let's see... I guess the weirdest actual-sex fact I've learned is that you can, in fact, gently caress somebody's pee hole. (Please do not gently caress someone's pee-hole. I've seen some poo poo.) Alvarez IV posted:Did anyone ever ask you to draw something illegal? I know ageplay and diaperfur is a thing. And no, before anyone asks, I'm not asking for myself. Yeah, quite often, despite the fact that I made it super clear that I don't do those, along with non-con, dub-con, or anything else like that. I'd draw a lot of hosed up poo poo, but there is no amount of money you could pay me to draw that sort of thing. That's just 100% non debatably wrong. If I could, I'd also report those people to the authorities. it wasn't often that I could, internet anonymity being what it is, but some people were stupid enough to use their actual names and the like, or put too much info out. I'd go out of my way to comb for info to report those sick fucks. I'll draw as many cum golems or cockasaurs that you want- just don't ask me to draw pedophilia. Blue Footed Booby posted:Well yeah, but then you'd have non centaurs bidding on the centaur template because they've just gotta ice-skate uphill. Hahahhaa- honestly, this does happen, because of course it does. Usually the person doing the commission either works with the client to turn their fursona into the appropriate creature, or just politely declines.
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Other than there being fewer of them, were the requests you got from women more or less among the same lines as the ones from men?
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I feel like I'm going on a register for even asking this, but do the laws against drawn child pornography also cover animal or other weird made up creature child pornography? Or for that matter are there any laws against furry porn in general anywhere? Did you ever look up any legal stuff or did you just assume the worst stuff must be illegal somewhere and everything else must be fine?
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There are no laws against drawing naughty pictures. That’d be the equivalent of thought crime, which you can’t do do in the US, bill of rights and all that. Edit: Oh it’s you Jabby, you’re British. But yeah free speech in the US i.e. the first amendment extends towards drawing and writing about illegal poo poo. You can’t make putting a pen to paper illegal in the US. Now you can’t incite violence where it might immediately happen, like holding a rally in the town square and saying “we should kill all the minorities like those ones right there” that would be consider inciting an “imminent act” but you could write a newspaper column saying the same thing. Bum the Sad fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Aug 11, 2017 |
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