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Fiddler on the Reef posted:yeah this is definitely it and is what makes the YT phenomena so unhealthy. unreciprocated friendship and a hollow substitute for actual community. it’s no wonder youth antidepressant use and suicide rate is way up. I honestly wonder how much of it is because of helicopter parents who won't let their kids go outside. That was part of why I got all internet...a lot of the time I wasn't allowed out much but I had an internet connection! I've read that not letting kids out and tightly regimenting their lives is becoming increasingly common but they all have cell phones and computers now and the kid will shut up and stay out of your hair when watching that you toobz thing they all like so whatever.
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Bath Tubs posted:Wait he cheated on his wife? I thought it was the other way around when your fanbase is 100% racist teenagers, admitting you got cucked would be career suicide
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Jul 12, 2018 20:55
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I honestly wonder how much of it is because of helicopter parents who won't let their kids go outside. That was part of why I got all internet...a lot of the time I wasn't allowed out much but I had an internet connection! at least in the educated and affluent corners there’s a reverse trend because new parents know how f’ed up it made the current generation. (source: I’m an educated and affluent parent).
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Jul 12, 2018 20:57
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Fiddler on the Reef posted:at least in the educated and affluent corners there’s a reverse trend because new parents know how f’ed up it made the current generation. (source: I’m an educated and affluent parent). nice humblebrag
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Jul 12, 2018 20:58
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ferroque posted:This is why lowtax stopped doing LPs.
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Jul 12, 2018 20:59
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little munchkin posted:it was a good idea. he got shitloads of press and managed to pull in tons of viewers/subscribers. he actually figured out a way to take a vacation, something most streamers are too afraid to do because of a complete lack of "job" security
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Jul 12, 2018 21:06
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What I'm saying here is that I want an infinity gauntlet for internet users, and immediately kill half of them. Then get another one, and another, and another. I'll put the last one on my dick.
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Jul 12, 2018 21:08
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Lowtax posted:19 is not a young person, it's an adult. You're 18, you can make your own financial and career decisions? You're an adult. If you can't get shitfaced at a baseball game you aren't truly an adult. That's a scientific fact proved by Alberto Einstein himself.
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Jul 12, 2018 21:12
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Who What Now posted:If you can't get shitfaced at a baseball game you aren't truly an adult. That's a scientific fact proved by Alberto Einstein himself. gently caress that racist, 18 is an adult
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Jul 12, 2018 21:13
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I'm thinking of the Youtuber's mental health, and well, it's a very amusing way to spend time
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Jul 12, 2018 21:13
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Lowtax posted:gently caress that racist, 18 is an adult He invented nukes and he's a ghost. Do you really want to anger someone with ghost nukes?!
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Jul 12, 2018 21:16
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Lowtax posted:The only thing that I will comment on regarding "kids these days" is that every year that passes, the less and less perception of "shame" there is. I mean, honestly, as a culture and society, shame is getting outlawed. You cannot pass judgement or say anything negative about anybody no matter how hosed up they are; somebody will defend them. There is no sense of shame, everything is about money. It doesn't matter what you do or how you do it, if you're popular on social media, throngs of idiots will stand up for you no matter what. gently caress principles, gently caress believing in things, gently caress anything that won't help your social media profile and followers grow. Everyone used to bitch a country mile about reality TV but at least that had a barrier to entry and could only hurt so many people, like you either had to be in one of a handful of hosed up families or be one of the 500 people chosen that year to be sent to an island or dropped in front of a fake doctor to talk about your weight-related deep vein thrombosis. Now everyone can spend way too much time oversharing about every aspect of their terrible lives, and everything is equally valid so you can't tell someone that maybe he shouldn't build his entire self-concept around a children's TV show or you'll be in the poo poo with the Children's TV Show Gang and the social media sites that want to just smooth things over so they can continue mining your viewing and purchasing habits for crypto
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Jul 12, 2018 21:18
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Terrific Accident posted:Slightly unrelated because Twitch instead of Youtube, but DrDisrespect decided it would be a good idea to admit to everyone on his stream that he had cheated on his wife and publicly apologize for it. A lot of these youtubers and streamers think of themselves as the product and have an unhealthy relationship with their audiences that I'll never understand. Was funny when someone joined the same server as him with the name "Dr.disrespectmywife" or something then fragged him in-game. When it comes to unhealthy relationships with their toxic audience ice poseidon probably comes out at the top. I mean yeah sure he's making god knows how much money, but I don't think I'd want to trade lives with the guy. Not worth it.
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Jul 12, 2018 21:25
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Who What Now posted:If you can't get shitfaced at a baseball game you aren't truly an adult. That's a scientific fact proved by Alberto Einstein himself. if thats the case I became an adult at 8 years old
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Jul 12, 2018 21:28
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CharlestonJew posted:if thats the case I became an adult at 8 years old Legally
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Jul 12, 2018 21:28
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Lowtax posted:The only thing that I will comment on regarding "kids these days" is that every year that passes, the less and less perception of "shame" there is. I mean, honestly, as a culture and society, shame is getting outlawed. You cannot pass judgement or say anything negative about anybody no matter how hosed up they are; somebody will defend them. There is no sense of shame, everything is about money. It doesn't matter what you do or how you do it, if you're popular on social media, throngs of idiots will stand up for you no matter what. gently caress principles, gently caress believing in things, gently caress anything that won't help your social media profile and followers grow. I was actually thinking about that walking home from lunch today. I call it cultural narcissism. We're a society that increasingly admires sociopathy and thinks that malignant narcissism is cool and good. Appearance is all that matters. Then again the internet is fickle as hell. If your appearance is ever outside of the approved opinions at all it will destroy you. No wonder they're stressed. The internet might collectively declare you an unperson for any reason at all. Every negative comment might be a one off thing or it might be the start of an avalanche of life ruining hate. But then there are whole classes of people you can't even disagree with without gatting accused of being a shamer or oppressor. The creation of hug box echo chambers caused that I think as once you're in you have a group that will tell you that you're perfect so long as you stay within the approved opinions and all always have your back even if you're horribly wrong. It's no longer about sticking up for what you believe in it's just petty tribalism.
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Jul 12, 2018 21:30
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Ginette Reno posted:it's really weird and stupid how knee jerk a response it is to look at something younger people are doing and just immediately dislike it because it's different from your own experience. i was a teenager when tunak, end of the world, red and blue, etc etc came out on youtube. i thought it was trash then and i think youtube is trash now it's not a case of kids these days, it's a case of youtube and its ilk is a garbage fire but unlike a train wreck it's not even interesting to look at
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Jul 12, 2018 21:39
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little munchkin posted:nice humblebrag 
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EXT - JAKE'S HOUSE - AFTERNOON (1995) JAKE HERBERT So you're telling me the world isn't getting worse? I've seen kids today all in black, wearing makeup, poo poo on their faces. Everything is sex. Clinton! DET. MARTIN HART You know, throughout history, I bet every old man probably said the same thing. And old men die, and the world keeps spinnin'.
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Jul 12, 2018 21:57
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y’all keep saying that this is just the older generation looking down on the new but rates of teenage suicide and depression are higher than they’ve ever been so you’ve got to admit that *something* has changed. I’m not saying that YT is literally killing our children but I do think social media is playing at least some roll in it.
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Jul 12, 2018 22:02
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Fiddler on the Reef posted:y’all keep saying that this is just the older generation looking down on the new but rates of teenage suicide and depression are higher than they’ve ever been so you’ve got to admit that *something* has changed. I’m not saying that YT is literally killing our children but I do think social media is playing at least some roll in it. People who use more social media have higher rates of depression, anxiety, isolation, addiction, and suicide than those who use less so yeah. Something is happening.
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Jul 12, 2018 22:04
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LA Beast is completely broken but I still love him.
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Jul 12, 2018 22:05
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Terrific Accident posted:There's a youtube streamer I like quite a bit who does sim racing. Couple weeks ago he crashed his virtual car during an endurance event, became extremely emotional, and wandered off camera for 30 minutes while mods and viewers assured him everything would be ok and that they still loved him. People who made fun on him were summarily executed and he returned to apologize to everyone for his performance and how much the support of the community means to him when driving his cars made out of pixels. I went back through his youtube video history and yeeeep there's a video detailing his extremely hosed up mental state and near suicidal tendencies Who is this ? I have empty box and some British guy who does VR nurburgring laps.
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Jul 12, 2018 22:19
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I think about Rich Evans regularly, OP
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Jul 12, 2018 22:20
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Makeup Haley (f u auto correct) NAKEY JAKEY is a pretty decent YouTube videogame guy. He doesn't seem to do everything for likes, instead he's just kinda chill and sits on a beach ball and talks about why a game is cool.
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Jul 12, 2018 22:22
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jonathan posted:Who is this ? I have empty box and some British guy who does VR nurburgring laps. Jimmy Broadbent, who is probably the British guy you're talking about.
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Jul 12, 2018 22:23
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being a youtuber/twitch streamer seems unironically hard. not the hardest job, and if you're even moderately successful at it you can make some pretty serious cash, but I can see it getting out of hand and too difficult to manage for a lot of people who get swept up in it.
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Verisimilidude posted:being a youtuber/twitch streamer seems unironically hard. not the hardest job, and if you're even moderately successful at it you can make some pretty serious cash, but I can see it getting out of hand and too difficult to manage for a lot of people who get swept up in it. The big one is when trolls demonetize videos by reporting them, then the personality has a poo poo fit where they lash out angrily in a live video and piss off people who hadn't had a problem with them, who then go on to report and demonitize other videos and the cycle repeats endlessly.
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Jul 12, 2018 22:36
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HugeGrossBurrito posted:LA Beast is completely broken but I still love him. He's STILL doing it. From his parents' house. Like, dude, he's still alive.
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Jul 12, 2018 22:38
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People being tortured don't scream as loud as those youtubers who stream themselves playing horror video games scream.
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like look at the kind of people who get into making youtube videos or being twitch streamers. it seems like you can take a sample of those types of people and inevitably a large percentage of them would have anxiety disorders, depression, and all sorts of mental problems
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Jul 12, 2018 22:38
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jonathan posted:Makeup Haley (f u auto correct) Nakey Jakey makes awesome videos and loving atrocious hip hop music
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Jul 12, 2018 22:39
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:He's STILL doing it. From his parents' house. Like, dude, he's still alive. Lol I know I still watch them, its loving brutal man
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Jul 12, 2018 22:40
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Lowtax posted:What I'm saying here is that I want an infinity gauntlet for internet users, and immediately kill half of them. Then get another one, and another, and another. I'll put the last one on my dick. If you always kill half, you'll never be done. Simple math.
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Work can be stressful and repetitive? What the ever-loving goddamn gently caress???? Nobody told me about that at career day! 99% of Youtubers could die off in a mass internet-extinction event (later to be called "Mom and dad kicked me out") and the internet would be way better for it.
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Jul 12, 2018 22:44
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the only thing i have to worry about on my youtube channel is whether i cqn afford the latest nike shoe and running out of piss
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Fiddler on the Reef posted:yeah this is definitely it and is what makes the YT phenomena so unhealthy. unreciprocated friendship and a hollow substitute for actual community. it’s no wonder youth antidepressant use and suicide rate is way up. This is what it is 100%. The youtuber/streamer and their other commenters/watchers are a surrogate community. You can tell from the language people use while watching. Bring up any stream on twitch with a decent following (but not so big it's constant spam/memes). People will pop in there and just say hi to each other and ask how they are doing. And not just streamer to viewer, but viewer to viewer as well. If it's a kind of game with a long campaign, people will catch part of it, have to go, then come back and ask how our campaign is going. Not the streamer's campaign. Our campaign. They identify the streamer and their fellow chat members as their social community, because they have no other.
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Jul 12, 2018 22:55
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Times like these make me happy we have the GBS youtube thumbnail thread.
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Terrific Accident posted:Jimmy Broadbent, who is probably the British guy you're talking about. That's him. And wow he seems like a stable car enthusiast from the videos I've seen. I feel like these days, the best content is from people making videos just because it's an interesting project or subject. Anything monetised is online cancer.
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Sean Evans is a national treasure and Hot Ones makes me really happy when I watch it. I pretty much just watch his show and usually some mini painting tutorials and all those guys seem like well adjusted not broke brain people.
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