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When was the last time Suzuki won a GP?
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Apr 15, 2019 17:13
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:When was the last time Suzuki won a GP? 2016 Vinales.
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Apr 15, 2019 17:28
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builds character posted:Vinales is just in I literally can’t tell if it’s you or the bike territory now. It’s obvious the Yamaha has some real issues (and has for a while now), but how much of Rossi (+0.462) vs vinales (+34.077) is just Rossi being much better and how much is riding style being different and unsuited? About 30 of that +34 is a ride through penalty. He's able to go fast on it he just drops like a rock at the start and spends the rest of his time climbing back up. Also 3 breakdowns in one weekend for HRC is appalling.
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Apr 15, 2019 19:59
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Given how much power these bikes have, I'm a bit surprised that someone hasn't put a starter system onto their bike. I'm sure you could make something small/light. It seems like it'd save a rider at least once a season from being unable to restart a bike. If Marquez was able to get that bike going right away I think he still wins the race.
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Apr 15, 2019 20:51
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Slavvy posted:About 30 of that +34 is a ride through penalty. He's able to go fast on it he just drops like a rock at the start and spends the rest of his time climbing back up. and 4 of it is the unnecessary penalty lap he did before the ride through
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Apr 15, 2019 21:00
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Slavvy posted:About 30 of that +34 is a ride through penalty. He's able to go fast on it he just drops like a rock at the start and spends the rest of his time climbing back up. echomadman posted:and 4 of it is the unnecessary penalty lap he did before the ride through Yeah, that's fair. Two penalties is a lot. Let's go back a race. Rossi +9.81s. Vinales DNF. Oh. Two races? Rossi +0.600s Vinales + 2.481s. Same question though, even if it's not as bad. He's still not the guy winning the first race on a suzuki in a hundred years that Yamaha hired and while the Yamaha is not a good bike, Rossi is consistently riding better than he is. I don't really understand why Vinales is having such a hard time when his gas tank is full at the start of the race because that's really what seems like the issue. Once they're later on he starts steadily going faster and faster. n8r posted:Given how much power these bikes have, I'm a bit surprised that someone hasn't put a starter system onto their bike. I'm sure you could make something small/light. It seems like it'd save a rider at least once a season from being unable to restart a bike. If Marquez was able to get that bike going right away I think he still wins the race. By my very rough count, he would have had at least twelve seconds before he gets started (although it takes the commentators a couple seconds to realize he's crashed so maybe more like 14?) even with a starter. He was four seconds up so that puts him 8-10 seconds down, not at full speed and he has to go back up through the field. If he can do 4 seconds in 8 laps, I'm not sure the math works out there for him. Even assuming he's able to go marginally faster because he's seeing red. He also messed up his footpeg apparently https://www.visordown.com/news/racing/motogp/big-mistake-ends-marquez-unbeaten-run Do they have batteries or would you have to add that as well? LiFePO probably means you're only adding 1/2 lb to 1 lb for the battery. Either way, I assume the rationale is there are track workers and if a starter would work then a bump start will work too so why add additional complexity and weight for such a low-probability event (crash + not injured + bike not broken + fast enough to get back points + bike can't bump start but could start with a starter) but I don't actually know.
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Apr 15, 2019 21:34
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I was sitting at turn 15, and when Marquez crashed the Grand stands near me went wild. It was pretty crazy. I didn't necessarily want Marquez to crash out, but I really didn't want to watch another runaway race with him. That was definitely the most exciting MotoGP race we've had at COTA. The Moto3 and Moto2 races we're also great.
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Apr 15, 2019 22:32
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Except bump starting often doesn't work.
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Apr 15, 2019 23:07
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I constantly see the need for starters. It doesn't even have to be an electric motor, there's tons of creative solutions. Make the starter powered by a carbon fiber air cylinder, or gently caress even a shotgun shell like old planes and cars. It would only restart the engine once but I can only recall a single instance of someone falling twice and still be in the race. Whether they stall on the grid before race start or gently lowside, it seemingly happens to someone at least every other race.
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Apr 16, 2019 00:08
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Reasons for starters: as discussed above. Reasons against starters: weight
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Apr 16, 2019 00:14
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Honestly, if you gave most racers an option between A. You come in 2nd every race or B. You win 3 races but DNF half the rest I think most racers would honestly pick B? Its a contrived scenario but people chase that victory over everything else, including safety if it isn't mandated by the sport.
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Apr 16, 2019 00:23
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iospace posted:Reasons for starters: as discussed above. Unless or until it’s mandated as a spec piece, teams won’t care. Because the weight and balance matters much more than re-starting the one time it happens during a race.
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Apr 16, 2019 00:28
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There's already a good way to avoid having to restart your bike. It's called not falling down.
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Apr 16, 2019 00:37
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:There's already a good way to avoid having to restart your bike. 
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Apr 16, 2019 00:38
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Spend your effort preventing loving up instead of spending it on recovering from fuckups. Given how competitive this stuff is with weight and how rarely you can crash and still fight for points even with a fast restart it’s pretty clearly not worth having a starter. If it was the guys with millions on the line would probably have them.
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Apr 16, 2019 01:17
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At least Cal oughta have one. Although, I guess he doesn't actually try to get going again, does he?
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Apr 16, 2019 01:36
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Marquez literally flip flopping the bike, then falling off after the failed bump start and rolling onto his back in defeat like a giant orange beetle 
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Apr 16, 2019 04:23
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Here are my crappy videos from the GP. I did the weekend cheap, so here's the view from two of the general admission areas. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1dM3Mzy4mE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liHUnzcQScY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgatWcM14Pk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fivEwMPPLt4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYXtubiG0h0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jEfk9-5XnM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jotL7pGjtB8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Khk8RXF-50
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Apr 16, 2019 22:12
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BwSmkQGnsYI
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Apr 16, 2019 22:25
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https://twitter.com/meowlibrary/status/1117907353381163009
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Apr 17, 2019 11:31
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What the heck happened? 1 20 Fabio QUARTARARO 2 21 Franco MORBIDELLI 3 93 Marc MARQUEZ 4 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO 5 12 Maverick VIÑALES 6 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW 7 9 Danilo PETRUCCI 8 30 Takaaki NAKAGAMI 9 42 Alex RINS 10 63 Francesco BAGNAIA 11 99 Jorge LORENZO 12 36 Joan MIR
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May 4, 2019 14:56
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Quartararo and morbidelli demonstrated there's nothing wrong with the Yamaha's speed. And people thought the zarco years were embarrassing! They'll drop like rocks in the race though, my money's still on a Marquez dovi podium. Super disappointed for Lorenzo too, a few sessions there he was looking loving dangerous.
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May 4, 2019 21:13
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Close on the predictions, though mechanical issues for Quatararo. Marquez, Rins, Vinales, Dovi, Petrucci, Rossi, Morbidelli Clutchlow That was a heck of a wreck in the first two corners of Moto2. Skreemer fucked around with this message at 19:56 on May 5, 2019 |
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May 5, 2019 15:02
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Some scary crashes in general this weekend. Funny how every time it looks like someone will walk off with it, there's unexpected drama. Yet when it looks like it'll be super close it turns out to be a procession race.
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May 5, 2019 21:13
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Boring race.
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May 5, 2019 22:27
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Nice one for Rins
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May 6, 2019 03:01
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the race...was bad
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May 7, 2019 15:19
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Meanwhile in WSBK, Rea finally won something, coming out on top in the superpole race and in race 1.
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May 12, 2019 17:09
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MotoGP France round, it's damp. Q2: Marc MARQUEZ Danilo PETRUCCI Jack MILLER Andrea DOVIZIOSO Valentino ROSSI Franco MORBIDELLI Takaaki NAKAGAMI Jorge LORENZO Aleix ESPARGARO Fabio QUARTARARO Maverick VIÑALES Pol ESPARGARO Morbidelli and Rossi had to come through Q1 Rossi's Q1 time: 1'37.667 Q2 Time: 1'41.655
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May 18, 2019 14:59
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Moto3 was good, Moto2's second place fight was pretty good, MotoGP started out entertaining, but ended pretty boring.
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May 19, 2019 19:00
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Skreemer posted:Moto3 was good, Moto2's second place fight was pretty good, MotoGP started out entertaining, but ended pretty boring. I fully understand why but I feel like Miller should have realized earlier on that he'd hosed his tires and let dovi through when he still had a chance at marquez and not when they completely gave out when marc had a 2 second advantage honestly I was a bit bored with 3 and sad but as always it delivered by the end
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May 20, 2019 07:00
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https://twitter.com/6e66o/status/1130037193467224066?s=19
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May 20, 2019 12:43
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Pre race guys said that HRC told Lorenzo to get some results or he's out. Been a pretty disappointing year for him so far. I don't see him ever being competitive again.
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May 20, 2019 21:27
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hayden. posted:Pre race guys said that HRC told Lorenzo to get some results or he's out. Been a pretty disappointing year for him so far. I don't see him ever being competitive again. I still don't understand why HRC hired Lorenzo in the first place. His talent is...unpredictable, and his personality certainly isn't going to sell a lot of repsol brand t-shirts. Maybe they'll let cal ride (crash) a factory bike in 2020. I've also heard there's some guy in moto2 named Marquez who did ok this weekend, and the last time they hired one of them it worked out pretty well.
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May 21, 2019 03:45
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hayden. posted:Pre race guys said that HRC told Lorenzo to get some results or he's out. Been a pretty disappointing year for him so far. I don't see him ever being competitive again. the quick interview the pit lane guy did with the team manager was very much no we would never say that about an ultimatum but it's definitely a persistent rumor for a reason. he was really strong through most of the practices really but not good when it mattered.
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May 21, 2019 04:26
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knowing the result, is the MGP race still worth watching
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May 21, 2019 04:59
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If another Marquez joins the top level and wins constantly I would entirely stop watching
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May 21, 2019 06:54
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hayden. posted:If another Marquez joins the top level and wins constantly I would entirely stop watching He should do a Rossi and go ride a shitter bike for the fun of it.
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May 21, 2019 09:37
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mactheknife posted:knowing the result, is the MGP race still worth watching If you can find a highlight package, yeah. There were some good bits but otherwise it was... meh for the rest of it.
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warm up lap gave me a laugh though
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