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Hollandia
Jul 27, 2007

rattus rattus


Grimey Drawer

starkebn posted:

Are you happy to compare yourself to the person who represents your electorate?

I think I'm fortunate to have Graham Perret, I vote for the Greens though, so I'd like him to be even more of a lefty.

Same. Him getting a black eye from falling off a chair laughing at Veep was pretty endearing.

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Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Anidav posted:

You're always going to have outliers who represent the make up of their electorates and some electorates are unfortunately odd as gently caress.

Every current labor politician is getting lobbying jobs and/or board positions the second they leave parliament.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Solemn Sloth posted:

Every current labor politician is getting lobbying jobs and/or board positions the second they leave parliament.

now now

not just labor

Huawei Australia's new external lawyer, former independent senator Nick Xenophon, has launched an aggressive defence of the company, saying the telecommunications giant was being "destroyed" by "false and totally unsubstantiated claims".

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Solemn Sloth posted:

Every current labor politician is getting lobbying jobs and/or board positions the second they leave parliament.

At least Labor have I guess 20% go to useful lobbying or positions with NGOs rather than the whole lot going to coal or similar.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

Hollandia posted:

Same. Him getting a black eye from falling off a chair laughing at Veep was pretty endearing.

Moreton is located in south east Queensland, and is based in the southern suburbs of the City of Brisbane. The division includes Archerfield, Chelmer, Fairfield, Graceville, Karawatha, Kuraby, MacGregor, Moorooka, Nathan, Oxley, Robertson, Rocklea, Runcorn, Salisbury, Stretton, Sunnybank, Sunnybank Hills, Tennyson, Yeronga, and Yeerongpilly, and parts of Algester, Berrinba, Calamvale, Coopers Plains, Drewvale, Eight Mile Plains, Parkinson, Sherwood, and Tarragindi, Corinda.

I live in Salisbury ya cool goons. Come grab a drink with me sometime.

Hollandia
Jul 27, 2007

rattus rattus


Grimey Drawer
I'm on board for that

Question for the thread - are there any good books on Australian race relations in a modern context generally? I've got a friend in the states asking about how ATSI peoples, immigration and 'boat people', changing attitudes towards Asia and China all fit together and I can only kinda :negative:

Hollandia fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Dec 3, 2019

Sappy Fingers
Jun 16, 2006

vlc owns sorry wrongs

Anidav posted:

Moreton is located in south east Queensland, and is based in the southern suburbs of the City of Brisbane. The division includes Archerfield, Chelmer, Fairfield, Graceville, Karawatha, Kuraby, MacGregor, Moorooka, Nathan, Oxley, Robertson, Rocklea, Runcorn, Salisbury, Stretton, Sunnybank, Sunnybank Hills, Tennyson, Yeronga, and Yeerongpilly, and parts of Algester, Berrinba, Calamvale, Coopers Plains, Drewvale, Eight Mile Plains, Parkinson, Sherwood, and Tarragindi, Corinda.

I live in Salisbury ya cool goons. Come grab a drink with me sometime.
I'm in Moorooka whuttup

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice
It's going to hit 40C in Perth today and I am waiting for the entire southern and eastern parts of the city to catch fire.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Don Dongington posted:

It's going to hit 40C in Perth today and I am waiting for the entire southern and eastern parts of the city to catch fire.

Where?

lilbeefer
Oct 4, 2004

How can i respond to a friend who constantly links Quillette articles? In particular https://quillette.com/2019/10/07/oikophobia-our-western-self-hatred/

Im reading through that and failing to see anything rational about it. Surely uf you have any empathy for others you can have issues with your culture?


Hes a really good mate and always has been and I don't know what to say to him.

lilbeefer fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Dec 3, 2019

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
Do all quillette articles read like something by a thirteen year old whose favourite Christmas present was a thesaurus?

Hollandia
Jul 27, 2007

rattus rattus


Grimey Drawer
If they really want to keep reading the race science and phrenology rag, it's worth considering how much you want to keep them as a mate.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Mmmmm yes noted single nation culture, Nazis

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.
Keep asking them about your head shape and the head shapes of others.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
There are a lot of ugly unexamined assumptions about colonialism in that piece mixed in with some terrible history.

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay
How deluded do you have to be to think that “Austrian” is even a culture?

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
https://youtu.be/shBwf97O7zk

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Good content

lilbeefer
Oct 4, 2004

Hollandia posted:

If they really want to keep reading the race science and phrenology rag, it's worth considering how much you want to keep them as a mate.

This sort of knee jerk reaction isn't always the answer in my opinion. We absolutely get bashed senseless daily by bad opinions and lovely takes, but Ive known him my whole life. Hes a good dude that has good ideals, I just think he has been on Reddit too much.
Like he is obsessed in his hatred for "outrage culture" and doesn't see the irony in that. I guess I'd rather he shift his concern to poo poo that actually matters, like our ridiculous political situation.

I find it exhausting going through the articles and by the end of reading one I cant even be bothered responding

Hollandia
Jul 27, 2007

rattus rattus


Grimey Drawer
If you find a viable answer, I'm all ears. It's a common problem that I haven't really heard a good solution for yet.
Especially regarding that exhaustion in trying to engage in good faith with very dicey and dog-whistle-y 'articles' etc, that's something I'm very familiar with.

Hollandia fucked around with this message at 07:59 on Dec 3, 2019

BCR
Jan 23, 2011

A face-scanning algorithm increasingly decides whether you deserve the job

Link

quote:

HireVue said its system dissects the tiniest details of candidates’ responses — their facial expressions, their eye contact and perceived “enthusiasm” — and compiles reports companies can use in deciding whom to hire or disregard.

Job candidates aren’t told their score or what little things they got wrong, and they can’t ask the machine what they could do better. Human hiring managers can use other factors, beyond the HireVue score, to decide which candidates pass the first-round test

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Every dystopiam future book coming true at the same time was the one unforeseen one.

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope
loving enthusiasm. "I'm not enthusiastic about this job, I just like sitting in job interviews and fielding bullshit questions for half an hour."

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Keen to smile 24/7 in order to maintain a maximum enthusiasm score.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
HELLO EMPLOYER, I CAME AT THE IDEA OF JUST BEING HERE

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.
I'm already like, 98% sure that program would be racist too.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop
I find I have to rub one out during interviews to get the face just right.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
lol why wouldn't you default programme this thing to scan for desperation and fear

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

Cartoon posted:

I find I have to rub one out during interviews to get the face just right.

I am a natural team player with open eyes for opportunities and thick skin.

I'm in it for the long game.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe
Well I read the first paragraph of the quilette article and got dumber as a result.

I mean gently caress the anecdote they use as evidence doesn't even constitute evidence for their argument.

An Idiot posted:

This exchange was similar to many that I have had in countries all around the Western world. They reveal a civilization that has stopped believing in itself, that hates itself, and that is therefore unwilling to defend the values of individual freedom, democracy, and scientific and scholarly skepticism that have been handed down to us since antiquity.

This is meaningless.

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

Zenithe posted:

I'm already like, 98% sure that program would be racist too.

98% it's racist.
100% chance it doesn't do anything useful.

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:

98% it's racist.
100% chance it doesn't do anything useful.

Great, so it's a robotic equivalent of a young lib then

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

Don Dongington posted:

Great, so it's a robotic equivalent of a young lib then

Nah worse,

A young national from south Australia

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

BCR posted:

A face-scanning algorithm increasingly decides whether you deserve the job

Link




well i guess it is 2019 now, put the machine on all new applicants

ColtMcAsskick
Nov 7, 2010

hooman posted:

Well I read the first paragraph of the quilette article and got dumber as a result.

I mean gently caress the anecdote they use as evidence doesn't even constitute evidence for their argument.


This is meaningless.

Yeah if you skip to the end it’s basically
:qq: “people aren’t saying we’re perfect in every way” :qq:

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Back to Christenson and his proclivity for gogobars.

At least he pays for the services he gets. Unlike that other National MP who got a high class escort in Hong Kong(?), took her to dinner and grossed her out so much that she declined to go back to his hotel. Then he refused to pay, so she had to sell the story to New Idea.

And his apology was for having dinner with a woman who wasn't his wife, his defense was he didn't gently caress her, and he still never paid her for her time, (which she charges for).

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
What boomer parlance is gogobar

ModernMajorGeneral
Jun 25, 2010

hooman posted:

Well I read the first paragraph of the quilette article and got dumber as a result.

I mean gently caress the anecdote they use as evidence doesn't even constitute evidence for their argument.


This is meaningless.

quote:

To mention just a couple among literally thousands of clearly oikophobic incidents of recent times... the group leader of American volunteer teachers in Africa some years ago informed the volunteers that residing in a foreign culture had taught her that the United States deserved the 9/11 terrorist attacks because of U.S. foreign policy (I know this because I was one of the volunteers).

Could it be that defining "western culture" by US foreign policy might make people hate "western culture"?

No, it's the progressives who are wrong.

Ora Tzo
Feb 26, 2016

HEEEERES TONYYYY
https://twitter.com/jonkudelka/status/1201764507028086784

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BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

JBP posted:

What boomer parlance is gogobar

Go Go Bar. Or Girly Bar. Or "prostitute pick up place"

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