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ZogrimAteMyHamster
Dec 8, 2015

Oh we play it with super-fast gamespeed, we're not that lovely!

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beer gas canister
Oct 30, 2007

shmups are da best come play some shmups they're cheap and good and you like them
Plaster Town Cop

Harveygod posted:

Yes. After a few losses, you'll find yourself among like-skilled players. T90 had a Low-Elo Legends stream today and a guy was afk for like an hour (while his opponent boomed and didn't bother attacking).

You can also live-spectate games. AoE2.net is a good site for finding live games and you can sort by Elo rating.


:stonk:

i'm surprised to see so many active players. cool stuff

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Mordja posted:

Uh, don't take SA as a litmus test to how active a game is, champ.

This thread is definitely not as active as the CnC one sorry to say

Harveygod posted:

Congratulations on this!

Lol it's 4 games. And one was a drop

Toast King
Jun 22, 2007

I've been having a lot of fun with Shotel Warrior rushes as Ethiopians in ranked games recently. On any maps that are reasonably wallable, I go for a militia rush to slow them down then a fast castle with enough stone to immediately drop a castle in my base to help defend myself.

I aim for ~20 Shotel warriors from the castle and keep them out of sight. Since they only take 8 seconds to make at first you get up to 20 in less than 3minutes. Get a couple of armour upgrades + arson for bonus building damage while they're massing, then try to sneak them out the back of my base and into the back or side of the opponents.

Doesn't always work, but people feel pretty secure having houses or barracks as parts of their wall. The shotels are super fragile but very fast and have basically as much attack as an elephant. A small group of them can take out a house or military building in maybe 5 seconds and then I beeline straight for the town centre. If you get all of them underneath and start attacking before they even get villagers inside, it can easily be half dead before it even starts shooting and then goes down in under 10 seconds.

When it works it's extremely funny and they can easily run down fleeing villagers, or some can split off and start taking out other production buildings in the base. They can't survive under castle fire, but if you find anywhere exposed it's very satisfying. Haven't tried taking out a castle with them, but if they don't have murder holes it would probably work too.

This works great early castle age when people are expecting the usual crossbows or similar, but they're a good side raiding distraction any time during the game. Especially at the point where they create in 3 seconds down from 8, it's just not sustainable for too long with the cost.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Lower levels always get murder holes






I know I do!


How does T90 watch Low level games? Can you just watch random ongoing games? This stream is 8 hours long. Can someone just watch anyone? I hope to show up one day

Milo and POTUS fucked around with this message at 10:46 on Jul 8, 2020

Viga_TCB
Dec 12, 2018

Milo and POTUS posted:

It's kinda sad but I love CnC too. Considering how atrophied this thread is though when they do remake RA2 it'll similarly fizzle lol

I do also like C&C but not the first ones, RA2 and Generals are my jam. But that applies only from a casual player's perspective - from a spectator's perspective, the pvp meta, as far as I know, is not much better in RA2 than in RA1 (I'm not familiar with General's meta). AoE2 is much better when it comes to being a spectator to me as the decisions are much more interesting (except for the first 3-4 minutes).


Statutory Ape posted:

people are allowed to post about and like the wrong bad games if they want to


all hail king of the losers, basically

Of course. It just feels weird - I'm pretty sure that AoE2 has more active viewers on twitch and more multiplayer activity, yet its thread does poorly and people seems to not discuss aspects of this game. Are c&c's features other than multiplayer that appealing? Maybe I need to lurk in their community to get that but I'm not sure I want to invest that effort.

Edit: AoE2 not AoE

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.

Viga_TCB posted:

Of course. It just feels weird - I'm pretty sure that AoE2 has more active viewers on twitch and more multiplayer activity, yet its thread does poorly and people seems to not discuss aspects of this game. Are c&c's features other than multiplayer that appealing? Maybe I need to lurk in their community to get that but I'm not sure I want to invest that effort.

Edit: AoE2 not AoE

I've seen some stats and Aoe2 blows out C&C in every category, for comparison Aoe2 has six or seven times more average viewers per week on twitch. This game's popularity has been going up slowly for years and the DE has been huge.

My only con is that this game is difficult to play at a good level and multiplayer looks daunting to get in for many people, including me. I have an old man's arthrithic hands and I'm chronically bad at multitasking, so I'm content to just watch on youtube and twitch.

EDIT: Although the problem with DE is that it has split the community a bit, some players just won't switch from the HD version because DE has pretty high system reqs.

Angry Lobster fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Jul 8, 2020

Gmaz
Apr 3, 2011

New DLC for Aoe2 is out: Dynasties of India
I'm in a similar spot. Watch the streams to chill, and while the game is really fun and rewarding to play it's also kind of stressful, so I am often not in the mood to play at all. Checked out C&C remaster, but IMO that game has not aged well at all in comparison to SC:BW and AoE2.

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

For the people that are stressed etc, seriously i would dip your toes in by just playing co op against the PC with friends. Hell, or even ONLY doing that. its still fun.

theres no reason to go head to head with somebody just because other people enjoy it!

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
Yeah one thing about DE that has impressed me, taking it as a fresh game because I've never played AOE before, is that from campaigns to coop to scenarios, there is a pretty huge amount of single player content accumulated from previous editions to play through if you don't care for competitive multiplayer.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
I can understand not wanting to play because of stress but anyone who refuses on account of fear should watch more Low elo legends. "This guy's 900 elo? Really?" is a great quote from T90 on the subject. Honestly you'll probably have a better win rate against bad players than the comp

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

We are a peaceful nation of wood choppers !!!!!

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Milo and POTUS posted:

I can understand not wanting to play because of stress but anyone who refuses on account of fear should watch more Low elo legends. "This guy's 900 elo? Really?" is a great quote from T90 on the subject. Honestly you'll probably have a better win rate against bad players than the comp

Some of the people in that are straight up playing Sim City in a competitive multiplayer match and barely make a single unit until it's Imperial Age and a blob of scorpions in rolling through their base.

FrickenMoron
May 6, 2009

Good game!

Milo and POTUS posted:



How does T90 watch Low level games? Can you just watch random ongoing games? This stream is 8 hours long. Can someone just watch anyone? I hope to show up one day


Ranked games allow spectators by default. You can use AoE2.net and filter by ELO and use the game ID to find it / spectate.

Statutory Ape posted:

We are a peaceful nation of wood choppers !!!!!



Forest Nothing!

FrickenMoron fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Jul 10, 2020

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

FrickenMoron posted:

Ranked games allow spectators by default. You can use AoE2.net and filter by ELO and use the game ID to find it / spectate.

Will you know if you're being watched?

FrickenMoron
May 6, 2009

Good game!
You get information that the match is being spectated but not by who.

Harveygod
Jan 4, 2014

YEEAAH HEH HEH HEEEHH

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYIN

THIS TRASH WAR AIN'T GONNA SOLVE ITSELF YA KNOW

Milo and POTUS posted:

Will you know if you're being watched?

There is a spot at the top of the screen (under the timer) that tells you the number of spectators.

Viga_TCB
Dec 12, 2018
There seems to be little high level arena content since DE came out - for some reason open land maps seems to be the only thing these days.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
These days? Man, Arabia was pretty much the only thing played back in the day.

meanolmrcloud
Apr 5, 2004

rock out with your stock out

Viga_TCB posted:

There seems to be little high level arena content since DE came out - for some reason open land maps seems to be the only thing these days.

There was a recent arena tournament for the aoelympics, which was pretty cool to watch.

I need to find better Civs to play, I’m in a rut

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.

meanolmrcloud posted:



I need to find better Civs to play, I’m in a rut

Celts eat TC

beer gas canister
Oct 30, 2007

shmups are da best come play some shmups they're cheap and good and you like them
Plaster Town Cop
Played my first online match yesterday. Map was Arena. I managed to punch a whole in their wall, but then the other player built an unbroken line of archery ranges up to my base, where they built a castle and a siege workshop that blocked one of my gates, then trebuchet'd me into oblivion. Predictable but not a bad time. Reminded me of the old Brood War tactic of building Protoss turrets in the enemy base.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
I kinda wanna see this match.

Archery ranges?

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Some insanely good LEL today good lord. The return of cockspanker

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Had a couple fun comp stomps with mapgoons, new AI good.

Harveygod
Jan 4, 2014

YEEAAH HEH HEH HEEEHH

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYIN

THIS TRASH WAR AIN'T GONNA SOLVE ITSELF YA KNOW
New update just went live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG6elbtmFEE

quote:

...preferred map option...
:woop:

quote:

There is now an option for random civilization matches in the map queue.
:vince:

This is going to be a good month.

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.
I just watched a TheViper's game in his youtube channel playing Ethiopians and it was pretty great, jesus christ mass heavy scorpions with torsion engines are one of the most satisfying things I've ever seen.

Fano
Oct 20, 2010
Totally had no idea there was a thread for DE, the last active Age thread was in GBS and it's had a few years without any posts, glad to see other goons enjoying the game.

Is there a goon group that plays together? Would love to play some ranked team games, I'm at 1500 TG ELO and 1100 1v1 ELO, I just don't play that often because 1v1 is still daunting as hell and TGs with randos is pain.

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Fano posted:

Totally had no idea there was a thread for DE, the last active Age thread was in GBS and it's had a few years without any posts, glad to see other goons enjoying the game.

Is there a goon group that plays together? Would love to play some ranked team games, I'm at 1500 TG ELO and 1100 1v1 ELO, I just don't play that often because 1v1 is still daunting as hell and TGs with randos is pain.

We in map goons have been playing it alot lately.
https://discord.gg/VJNZYX

Viga_TCB
Dec 12, 2018
Glad to see they buffed condos as they are the most fun infantry (and team unit) to play with IMO. I missed the golden days of full power Vikings condo spam, especially when there was a miscalculation in HD that made Viking condos 97 HP instead of 96 which is actually really significant. Dunno if that still exists in DE though, never checked.

Viga_TCB
Dec 12, 2018
As an arena lover, I would say that the recent clown cup is very satisfying to watch. It even comes with bonus Italian plays and Condos in the final!

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.
You can always count on TatoH and Viper to make things interesting and meme hard, even in tournaments.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
No new LEL today?

FrickenMoron
May 6, 2009

Good game!

Milo and POTUS posted:

No new LEL today?

Hes doing a 12 hour stream right now, it will have Low ELO later. T90 is moving this week so the streams were shuffled around a bit.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Oh yeah that's right. Guess he got tired of waiting for the AC to get fixed

Viga_TCB
Dec 12, 2018
Holy moly the Viper-Yo showmatch. How? Who could have predicted that?

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.

Viga_TCB posted:

Holy moly the Viper-Yo showmatch. How? Who could have predicted that?

All games were played with the no walls mod, Viper was clearly uncomfortable dealing with Yo's aggresive style and not playing as well as usual, however Yo is a beast and did great, so dunno.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
No walls makes the game so much more dynamic. I would joke and say god I hope I never have to play like that but I never use them anyway lol.

That said I did not expect that good lord

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
No new LEL? That's... disappointing

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OneDeadman
Oct 16, 2010

[SUPERBIA]

Milo and POTUS posted:

No new LEL? That's... disappointing

It's thursday this week for whatever reason.


As, an aside I just recently discovered T90s stuff after not playing AoE2 since I was like 10 and god Low Elo Legends are the most captivating thing in the world. Just a combination of really excellent casting and Low Elo games being literally impossible to predict.

edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2u4F41hXxw&t=1861s This also literally murdered me when I saw it

OneDeadman fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Aug 12, 2020

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