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I've never quite understood a lot of coaching changes for middle-of-the-road, or slightly-better-than-average coaches, like Franklin and Harbaugh as examples. A lot of coaching changes / replacements ABSOLUTELY DO NOT work out long-term. Texas, Florida, and Florida State initially jump to mind - huge programs in the past that are now just comedyjokes.
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Nov 15, 2021 03:15
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Komet posted:For how long? Another season and a half at least. The NFC South is so bad that they might win it outright, especially now that Darnold is done.
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Nov 15, 2021 03:16
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facialimpediment posted:I've never quite understood a lot of coaching changes for middle-of-the-road, or slightly-better-than-average coaches, like Franklin and Harbaugh as examples. A lot of coaching changes / replacements ABSOLUTELY DO NOT work out long-term. Texas, Florida, and Florida State initially jump to mind - huge programs in the past that are now just comedyjokes. Penn State is going to be 7-5 at best and 6-6 with a loss to Rutgers at worst. I'm sorry, but this is not acceptable. If Franklin stays and manages 7-5 again albeit with glimmers of improvement with a true freshman QB next year, he'll have some leash leading into 2023. But if next year is bad, he has to go. Realistically, Franklin already hit his ceiling. We're not getting back to 10 wins
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Nov 15, 2021 03:28
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OSU is going to beat Michigan worse than usual, because Michigan cannot for the life of them score touchdowns in the redzone unless they're on the 1 inch line. I think they're something like 8th or 9th in redzone scoring overall, but almost 90th in the country in redzone TD percentage. They settle for dinky little field goals because Cade McNamara is too busy under/overthrowing everybody who's open. Whereas OSU can score from anywhere on the field, and usually do so at will. Of course, this is due to Ohio State having a QB and actual wideouts and Michigan having the second coming of John O'Korn and a bunch of slot guys who struggle to obtain more than two inches of separation on the outside. Michigan is going to need an error free game from their QB, the run game to be working on all cylinders and the defense to make some big plays if they even want a smidgen of a chance of winning that game. The last time Michigan had a QB who could make all the throws from anywhere on the field, and could score TDs at will, it was 10 years ago and Denard Robinson was under center. Jim Harbaugh cannot scout or develop QBs at Michigan if his life depended on it. It's inexplicable. It also doesn't help that Harbaugh, since he's been at Michigan, has insisted upon utilizing an offense that often times looks like it was developed in 1987. Gonz fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Nov 15, 2021 |
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Nov 15, 2021 03:34
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Henchman of Santa posted:MSU had a deceptively bad 19-point win over Maryland. Olave and Wilson are going to curb stomp this secondary. Smith-Njigba, too. This receiving corps is sick.
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Nov 15, 2021 03:39
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Komet posted:Penn State is going to be 7-5 at best and 6-6 with a loss to Rutgers at worst. I'm sorry, but this is not acceptable. If Franklin stays and manages 7-5 again albeit with glimmers of improvement with a true freshman QB next year, he'll have some leash leading into 2023. But if next year is bad, he has to go. Take it with a grain of salt, but supposed Penn State insiders basically said Franklin demanded to be paid top 5 money back before the illinois game, the university offered him a great deal, and then he balked and countered. Then the Illinois game happened and for some reason the university didn't pull the big offer and that's where things stand. Now that the seasons sliding into mediocrity it looks like he overplayed his hand and may have lost the interest of LSU and USC (and maybe soon to be Florida).
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Nov 15, 2021 03:53
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drat Dirty Ape posted:Take it with a grain of salt, but supposed Penn State insiders basically said Franklin demanded to be paid top 5 money back before the illinois game, the university offered him a great deal, and then he balked and countered. Then the Illinois game happened and for some reason the university didn't pull the big offer and that's where things stand. Now that the seasons sliding into mediocrity it looks like he overplayed his hand and may have lost the interest of LSU and USC (and maybe soon to be Florida). You hate to see it
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Nov 15, 2021 03:55
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Sash! posted:Because I didn't doublecheck my spreadsheet. Haha I was wracking my brain trying to figure out what I was missing
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Nov 15, 2021 03:58
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Komet posted:If Franklin stays and keeps Yurcich and his recruiting class intact, that's okay. But some assistant coaches need to be sacrificed for how bad the OL and RBs are. He has the best QB in the country coming in and that will buy him a couple of years. I don't really want any changes in staff, especially on the offensive side of the ball. That's been a big part of the problem overall I think, they've had to change coordinators and position coaches a ton due to them getting upgraded roles elsewhere. We're on the 5th offensive system in Franklin's 8 years here, things need to just chill for a bit on that end.
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Nov 15, 2021 04:34
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LeeMajors posted:Throwing a 31yo LB coach right into playcalling duties against Samford It doesn't give me much reason to hope for Mullen making a slam dunk DC hire.
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Nov 15, 2021 04:45
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LLCoolJD posted:It doesn't give me much reason to hope for Mullen making a slam dunk DC hire. I’ve mostly lost hope in him having any sort of high ceiling and the ’high floor’ appears to be a myth as well.
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Nov 15, 2021 04:50
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FreakyMetalKid posted:Losing to ASU is the last straw for yet another Pac 12 coach. They really out Sun Deviled us by blowing that lead. I hope we didn't accidentally save the job of our own coach in the process. I haven't been following ASU closely this year due to having my own football problems to worry about, is Herm actually in trouble? I feel like even if he's done the same job the last two coaches have done there (almost like this is the ceiling for a team in the Pac that isn't USC/Oregon) although that also means that I don't think he's that great since I don't think the previous two coaches were good.
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Nov 15, 2021 05:15
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Rick posted:I haven't been following ASU closely this year due to having my own football problems to worry about, is Herm actually in trouble? The NCAA investigation/blatantly avoiding Covid protocols with recruiting stuff is Herm's main problem, the performance of the team is surprisingly good overall from what even ASU expected I think? I mean, not over the top good but just from wins/losses trending in the right direction.
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Nov 15, 2021 05:20
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Grittybeard posted:The NCAA investigation/blatantly avoiding Covid protocols with recruiting stuff is Herm's main problem, the performance of the team is surprisingly good overall from what even ASU expected I think? I mean, not over the top good but just from wins/losses trending in the right direction. I didn't know about that part but also it does not surprise me at all, and that isn't a knock at Herm, just the general COVID'S OVER attitude in Arizona (where it's on pace to be our leading cause of death this year).
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Nov 15, 2021 05:29
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Rick posted:I haven't been following ASU closely this year due to having my own football problems to worry about, is Herm actually in trouble? I feel like even if he's done the same job the last two coaches have done there (almost like this is the ceiling for a team in the Pac that isn't USC/Oregon) although that also means that I don't think he's that great since I don't think the previous two coaches were good. He has them ranked or near the rankings most of the time. He's fine with any minor scandals as long as he stays at this level.
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Nov 15, 2021 05:56
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Rick posted:I didn't know about that part but also it does not surprise me at all, and that isn't a knock at Herm, just the general COVID'S OVER attitude in Arizona (where it's on pace to be our leading cause of death this year). On the one hand, pretending COVID isn’t/wasn’t happening is a very bad look. On the other, it’s part of a growing trend where athletic departments are just kind of ignoring the NCAA and their rules and kind of waiting out the clock on them, which honestly isn’t the worst strategy.
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Nov 15, 2021 06:26
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I can't think of any reason ASU should fire Herm for reasons of performance on the field.
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Nov 15, 2021 07:02
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Nov 15, 2021 08:20
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Bo Nix apparently had a "severe ankle injury" yesterday and will have surgery today. Kicker Anders Carlson injured his knee and seems done for the season. Not looking it up but that has to be like 80 percent of Auburn's points this year.
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Nov 15, 2021 10:26
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LLCoolJD posted:It doesn't give me much reason to hope for Mullen making a slam dunk DC hire. the mood around the program and from sourced-up national writers is that Mullen is done even if he wins out, which itself feels highly unlikely given that Florida gave up as many points to Samford as Tennessee Tech did
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Nov 15, 2021 12:59
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Nov 15, 2021 14:16
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Roasted Donut posted:I don't really want any changes in staff, especially on the offensive side of the ball. That's been a big part of the problem overall I think, they've had to change coordinators and position coaches a ton due to them getting upgraded roles elsewhere. We're on the 5th offensive system in Franklin's 8 years here, things need to just chill for a bit on that end. I agree, but I just feel unenthusiastic about the future. There's a potentially program changing QB and RB coming in, but the OL problems have transcended offensive coordinators. There is something fundamentally wrong with conditioning and development that is dragging the offense down. I don't know if this is fixable under Franklin.
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Nov 15, 2021 14:57
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Can't wait for a Texas to join the SEC. https://youtu.be/2-QxhxWTUkY
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Soylent Pudding posted:Can't wait for a Texas to join the SEC. Florida should've been in this video.
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Nov 15, 2021 15:51
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When was the last time Penn State had a good o-line? The mid 90s? I just can't wrap my brain around it.
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I had to sit on a call yesterday so you get an early moon poll. Not many surprises here but man that logjam at 9-1. But first, lol at this this Habsburg Bloc in the 70s pre:70. Florida 5-5 0.0609 71. USC 4-5 0.0046 72. Texas 4-6 -0.0168 pre:Delta Team Record Score - 1. Georgia 10-0 5.3156 - 2. Ohio State 9-1 4.3414 - 3. Alabama 9-1 3.8385 +1 4. Michigan 9-1 3.8367 +1 5. Cincinnati 10-0 3.6293 +3 6. Notre Dame 9-1 3.4912 +1 7. Oklahoma State 9-1 3.4399 -1 8. Iowa 8-2 3.3858 +1 9. Oregon 9-1 3.2680 +4 10. Ole Miss 8-2 3.1560 +5 11. Wake Forest 9-1 3.0867 -8 12. Oklahoma 9-1 3.0388 -1 13. UTSA 10-0 3.0204 +3 14. Baylor 8-2 3.0085 -2 15. Michigan State 9-1 2.8993 +3 16. Houston 9-1 2.6436 -2 17. BYU 8-2 2.5600 +3 18. Wisconsin 7-3 2.4868 +7 19. Arkansas 7-3 2.4547 - 20. Pittsburgh 8-2 2.3692 -10 21. Texas A&M 7-3 2.2858 +12 22. Kansas State 7-3 2.0754 +5 23. San Diego State 9-1 2.0707 +8 24. Louisiana 9-1 2.0650 +2 25. Appalachian State 8-2 1.9235 +1 121. UNLV 2-8 -2.6668 -3 122. Akron 2-8 -2.6956 +4 123. Arkansas State 2-8 -2.8672 +1 124. New Mexico State 1-9 -2.8710 -4 125. Tulane 1-9 -2.9383 -2 126. Arizona 1-9 -3.2637 -1 127. Southern Miss 1-9 -3.5711 +1 128. Connecticut 1-9 -3.9197 +1 129. Florida Intl 1-9 -4.1212 -2 130. Massachusetts 1-9 -4.6944 pre:Delta Team Rec Score +5 26. Clemson 7-3 1.9232 +3 27. Utah 7-3 1.9152 -6 28. NC State 7-3 1.8501 -11 29. Penn State 6-4 1.8383 -7 30. Iowa State 6-4 1.5683 +5 31. Boise State 6-4 1.5458 +8 32. Mississippi State 6-4 1.4442 +5 33. Arizona State 7-3 1.4144 +9 34. Air Force 7-3 1.3443 -11 35. Purdue 6-4 1.3348 -7 36. Auburn 6-4 1.3249 +7 37. UCLA 6-4 1.3032 +1 38. Fresno State 8-3 1.2678 -6 39. Minnesota 6-4 1.2503 -15 40. Coastal Carolina 8-2 1.2237 +4 41. Utah State 8-2 1.2129 -7 42. Nevada 7-3 1.1998 +10 43. Boston College 6-4 1.0231 +10 44. UAB 7-3 1.0223 +13 45. SMU 8-2 0.9967 +6 46. Army 6-3 0.9925 +8 47. Kentucky 7-3 0.9306 +11 48. Western Kentucky 6-4 0.8329 -12 49. North Carolina 5-5 0.8318 Delta Team Rec Score -1 50. Liberty 7-3 0.7756 -10 51. Virginia 6-4 0.6993 +15 52. Louisville 5-5 0.6964 +22 53. Rutgers 5-5 0.6473 -8 54. Washington State 5-5 0.6046 +18 55. Texas Tech 6-4 0.6009 -14 56. Tennessee 5-5 0.5885 +5 57. Western Michigan 6-4 0.5119 +12 58. Virginia Tech 5-5 0.4523 +4 59. Northern Illinois 7-3 0.4486 +17 60. Missouri 5-5 0.4205 -1 61. Illinois 4-6 0.3610 -11 62. UCF 6-4 0.3326 -13 63. South Carolina 5-5 0.2930 +2 64. Oregon State 5-4 0.2530 -18 65. Miami (FL) 5-5 0.2434 -18 66. Kent State 5-5 0.2372 +12 67. Toledo 5-5 0.1702 +17 68. Georgia State 5-5 0.1178 -12 69. Syracuse 5-5 0.1060 +8 70. Florida 5-5 0.0609 +3 71. USC 4-5 0.0046 -16 72. Texas 4-6 -0.0168 +14 73. Central Michigan 6-4 -0.0328 -3 74. Maryland 5-5 -0.0667 Delta Team Rec Score -6 75. Ball State 5-5 -0.1653 -4 76. TCU 4-6 -0.1875 +13 77. Miami (OH) 5-5 -0.2284 -14 78. Marshall 6-4 -0.2300 -14 79. West Virginia 4-6 -0.2396 -12 80. LSU 4-6 -0.2663 - 81. East Carolina 6-4 -0.2944 -21 82. Eastern Michigan 6-4 -0.2991 +1 83. California 3-6 -0.4843 -8 84. Troy 5-5 -0.5059 +1 85. Nebraska 3-7 -0.5935 +13 86. Florida State 4-6 -0.6503 +8 87. Middle Tennessee 5-5 -0.6761 -8 88. Florida Atlantic 5-5 -0.6865 -7 89. UTEP 6-4 -0.8044 -7 90. Washington 4-6 -0.8186 -2 91. South Alabama 5-5 -0.8413 +2 92. Memphis 5-5 -0.9842 -5 93. Georgia Tech 3-7 -1.0483 -1 94. Wyoming 5-5 -1.1287 -4 95. Louisiana-Monroe 4-6 -1.1577 +1 96. Colorado 3-7 -1.1961 +12 97. North Texas 4-6 -1.2219 -2 98. Charlotte 5-5 -1.2524 +8 99. Tulsa 4-6 -1.2882 Delta Team Rec Score -8 100. Stanford 3-7 -1.2905 -3 101. Northwestern 3-7 -1.3798 +1 102. Navy 2-7 -1.3833 +10 103. Old Dominion 4-6 -1.3974 +8 104. Louisiana Tech 3-7 -1.4417 +12 105. Kansas 2-8 -1.5404 -5 106. Duke 3-7 -1.7116 -1 107. Colorado State 3-7 -1.7445 -6 108. San Jose State 5-6 -1.7804 -9 109. Buffalo 4-6 -1.7867 -5 110. Hawaii 4-7 -1.8245 -1 111. Temple 3-7 -1.9257 -8 112. Bowling Green 3-7 -2.0466 -2 113. Rice 3-7 -2.0736 -6 114. Indiana 2-8 -2.0994 +5 115. Georgia Southern 3-7 -2.1509 +7 116. Ohio U 3-7 -2.3679 -2 117. New Mexico 3-7 -2.4539 - 118. Vanderbilt 2-8 -2.5414 -5 119. South Florida 2-8 -2.6220 -4 120. Texas State 3-7 -2.6593
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Nov 15, 2021 17:03
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Sash! posted:When was the last time Penn State had a good o-line? The mid 90s? I just can't wrap my brain around it. I thought that having huge linemen was a requirement for being in the Big 10.
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Nov 15, 2021 17:04
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dirty shrimp money posted:
 that’s the perfect way to describe us.Sitting in a velvet chair, snoring at rest, unable to eat because our teeth don’t align, freely bleeding everywhere. Florida Football. Feel the excitement.
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Nov 15, 2021 17:10
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Nov 15, 2021 17:27
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LLCoolJD posted:I thought that having huge linemen was a requirement for being in the Big 10. You can have huge linemen that loving suck.
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Nov 15, 2021 17:32
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Sash! posted:When was the last time Penn State had a good o-line? The mid 90s? I just can't wrap my brain around it. The line BOB inherited in 2012 was pretty good. And then almost everyone was gone in 2013, and they never recovered after the sanctions really took hold. In 2007, you had a no name guy like Rodney Kinlaw running 1300-1400 yards in one season sandwiched between Tony Hunt and Evan Roster, who both had solid careers despite being mid-tier talents.
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Nov 15, 2021 17:42
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Komet posted:I agree, but I just feel unenthusiastic about the future. There's a potentially program changing QB and RB coming in, but the OL problems have transcended offensive coordinators. There is something fundamentally wrong with conditioning and development that is dragging the offense down. I don't know if this is fixable under Franklin. I remember a few weeks ago you said the floor for this Penn State team is 10-2 and the were just around the corner from being one of the elite teams in college football. College football man...it wears on you.
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Nov 15, 2021 18:28
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Regnevelc posted:You can have huge linemen that loving suck. 2011 UGA had the biggest pound-for-pound OL in both college and the NFL, and could neither run the ball nor keep Aaron Murray from getting his rear end kicked. There's something just so sad about these beaten behemoths having to reach down and pick their QB up off the ground over and over and over again
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Nov 15, 2021 18:35
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Regnevelc posted:You can have huge linemen that loving suck. After the 2006 Championship Florida fans should know this better than anybody about Big Ten offensive lineman. OSU had ten total OL drafted during the Bollman era from 2002-2012 and I think the only ones that didn't suck were LeCharles Bentley and Nick Mangold.
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Nov 15, 2021 18:56
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Bijan Robinson out for year, just announced Yikes. Texas might lose out
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Nov 15, 2021 19:06
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fast cars loose anus posted:Bijan Robinson out for year, just announced I mean, we just lost to Kansas at home with him. I was just assuming we are gonna lose out
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Nov 15, 2021 19:10
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fast cars loose anus posted:Bijan Robinson out for year, just announced tweet https://twitter.com/anwarrichardson/status/1460294097680232451?s=21 
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