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now don't you post that without calling out that it's from 2017 no-- ohhhhhhh, wait, i get it
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BIG HEADLINE posted:
They will use this as a rallying cry to get voters. It will be marginally successful and the party will not fundamentally change whatsoever from now until the heat death of the universe. Through the vacuum of campaign donations this is probably a goldmine for both parties.
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# ? May 3, 2022 12:52 |
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Kesper North posted:They're also going after INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE, the RIGHT TO CONTRACEPTION, and the RIGHT to NOT TO BE FORCIBLY STERILIZED: Can't wait till this is used to justify strengthening slavery again.
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# ? May 3, 2022 12:55 |
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CommieGIR posted:Can't wait till this is used to justify strengthening slavery again. Itz inda BAIBUL!
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CommieGIR posted:Can't wait till this is used to justify strengthening slavery again. John Brown did nothing wrong.
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# ? May 3, 2022 14:31 |
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Someone help me out with the latest SCOTUS draft decision. What case is this a decision for? I was under the impression that both of the latest crazy abortion laws were not being argued in SCOTUS. Am I wrong in that? If not, how can they just make a decision like that without a trial? I was under the impression that they can only rule on what is being debated, so crazy abortion law shouldn't be a question about Roe v Wade, but a question on the legality of that particular law. It seems like a big jump from "is deputising randos legal" to "remove Roe v Wade." How does that logic/timeline advance so far/quickly.
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# ? May 3, 2022 14:32 |
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ASAPI posted:Someone help me out with the latest SCOTUS draft decision. This is nothing new. Plessy v Ferguson was a case about whether or not a slave became free when brought into a territory that outlawed slavery. The Supreme court took the opportunity to declare that black people weren't citizens, had no rights, and couldn't take a case to court. As an institution, the Supreme Court sucks.
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# ? May 3, 2022 14:42 |
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A.o.D. posted:This is nothing new. Plessy v Ferguson was a case about whether or not a slave became free when brought into a territory that outlawed slavery. The Supreme court took the opportunity to declare that black people weren't citizens, had no rights, and couldn't take a case to court. I get that. I don't like it, but that was the decision for that case. That I understand. Right now, unless someone can point to the case this "decision" is for, it seems like there is no trial, just a decision from SCOTUS. They don't just randomly issue opinions with no trial, right? I was under the impression that there were two laws being challenged. Neither of those two laws are being heard by SCOTUS (that I know of), last I heard they were both kicked back down to the lower courts. So my question is: What trial is going on to allow for a decision?
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# ? May 3, 2022 14:56 |
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It's this one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dobbs_v._Jackson_Women%27s_Health_Organization?wprov=sfla1
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ASAPI posted:I get that. I don't like it, but that was the decision for that case. That I understand.
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# ? May 3, 2022 15:00 |
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ASAPI posted:I get that. I don't like it, but that was the decision for that case. That I understand. You don't really get that. The case was only about whether or not Plessy was a free man. What ended up being decided was that Black people, whether they were free or slaves had no citizenship, or recourse to the American legal system to seek redress. There is no formal law or constitutional document that limits what the Supreme Court can rule on, only tradition and decorum, both of which hold no value for modern conservatism.
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# ? May 3, 2022 15:10 |
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CMYK BLYAT! posted:now don't you post that without calling out that it's from 2017 no-- https://twitter.com/sfpelosi/status/1521294980488204289?s=20&t=MwV5e2ZN2SxW_TVmZL5CRg I think I'm loving done taking voting orders from any of these ghouls that make up the Democratic Party's leadership or their hangers-on. Seriously, gently caress them. Retire and term limits, please.
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# ? May 3, 2022 15:30 |
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Bigfoot could always use another vote.
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# ? May 3, 2022 15:31 |
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Epiphyte posted:This was regarding the case about the Mississippi law banning abortion after 15 weeks Ah, I thought Mississippi was kicked back, this makes more sense. A.o.D. posted:You don't really get that. The case was only about whether or not Plessy was a free man. What ended up being decided was that Black people, whether they were free or slaves had no citizenship, or recourse to the American legal system to seek redress. There is no formal law or constitutional document that limits what the Supreme Court can rule on, only tradition and decorum, both of which hold no value for modern conservatism. I do. I was concerned with the fact that (to me) there was a decision without a case. I can understand that a decision was issued, for a case, and not agree with it. I am not arguing if a decision is "correct" or not, I was asking if a decision was made without a trial. You are hung up on a unrelated detail to my question, I am aware that SCOTUS will place bizarre things in their decisions.
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# ? May 3, 2022 15:32 |
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ASAPI posted:Ah, I thought Mississippi was kicked back, this makes more sense. I thought you were asking how SCOTUS could make a ruling not related to the case before them, not whether or not there was a case. My mistake.
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pantslesswithwolves posted:https://twitter.com/sfpelosi/status/1521294980488204289?s=20&t=MwV5e2ZN2SxW_TVmZL5CRg Truly it is the voters who are wrong rather than doubling down on "better things aren't possible" and "any change must be small, easily reversible, and means tested". edit: My state sent two democrat senators to the senate which we haven't done since 1990, one of which is definitely losing in 2022 due to the failure of the democrats to go and protect their theoretical ability to be elected in red states in the first place. Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 15:46 on May 3, 2022 |
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lol, before all of this dropped yesterday, had to deal with my incredibly smug conservative brother and sister in law questioning why my wife and I are planning on moving to Canada in the next few years. Don't we understand that taxes are higher there and that the healthcare isn't actually "free"? "Yeah, I'm aware of how taxation works, and I'm a citizen with roughly 3/4 of my family living there so I know what to expect, but go off. Continue telling me how things work in Canada." This poo poo seals the deal. I'm so relieved my wife wants out of this stupid country even more than I do.
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# ? May 3, 2022 15:49 |
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Fascists have a habit of not staying inside their containment zone, FYI. Ceding the fight now helps guarantee a worse one later.
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# ? May 3, 2022 16:00 |
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lol at all the Twitter pundits pointing fingers and assigning blame rather than discussing next steps. American progressives and leftists are one big moronic circular firing squad. What a total poo poo show Edit: ^^^ 100% we are gonna be looking at a federal ban as soon as they have congress
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pantslesswithwolves posted:https://twitter.com/sfpelosi/status/1521294980488204289?s=20&t=MwV5e2ZN2SxW_TVmZL5CRg No it’s cool they’ll enshrine it in law and get you that COVID check you just need to vote one more time
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boop the snoot posted:They will use this as a rallying cry to get They don't give a flying gently caress about voters.
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# ? May 3, 2022 16:14 |
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Withholding judgement until there's well thought out think pieces from adults in room. Remember when we thought $2000 check meant one $2000 check and how wrong we were? Maybe this is like that
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https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1521491244135993347?s=21&t=G0FOr6pKQCjlLaQwfzSt5g The brow furrowing was very very intense.
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# ? May 3, 2022 16:23 |
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I was all set to get the snip before COVID hit but I guess it's time to get back on that saddle. Metaphorically speaking. I am pretty sure you're not supposed to sit on a saddle right afterwards.
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davecrazy posted:https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1521491244135993347?s=21&t=G0FOr6pKQCjlLaQwfzSt5g What! No way! The decorum! A.o.D. posted:Ceding the fight now helps guarantee a worse one later. What fight? One political party is doing what they say they will and the other fundraises off of talking about how bad it is while doing literally nothing about it.
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# ? May 3, 2022 16:26 |
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https://twitter.com/KT_So_It_Goes/status/1521509300287512576?t=E2KDmP_06LSLLjDdpbtaZQ&s=19 This joke will never not be funny
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# ? May 3, 2022 16:28 |
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A.o.D. posted:Fascists have a habit of not staying inside their containment zone, FYI. Ceding the fight now helps guarantee a worse one later. IDK man, if I have to choose between staying here and watching this poo poo get increasingly worse for people around me no matter my efforts, or me taking my family back to Canada where we don't have to deal with this kind of poo poo (for now) nor have to worry about a medical bankruptcy to boot, I know what choice I'm going with. Do I think this stupidity isn't going to try expand beyond America and into Canada somehow (or that it hasn't already)? Of course not, but gently caress it, mine as well go where I feel more at home. We'd been planning on doing this move for awhile now, so it's not a "Oh Bush won again, guess I'm moving to Canada!" move. It basically boiled down to "Hey, remember when you said you really enjoyed the climate and scenery in BC and NS. Why not move there in a few years? I'm a citizen so immigrating won't be a massive hurdle for us." This latest poo poo is just further encouragement that we're making the right call for us. Discussion Quorum posted:I was all set to get the snip before COVID hit but I guess it's time to get back on that saddle. Sit on a bag of frozen peas. It helps.
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# ? May 3, 2022 16:29 |
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Thankfully Brandon has been working a Twitter disinformation task force this week glad priorities are straight
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# ? May 3, 2022 16:31 |
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lol god drat that was fast.quote:Every House Republican voted against protecting reproductive rights. Now a draft opinion shows SCOTUS will overturn Roe v. Wade. So we're calling for a historic surge to DEFEAT the anti-choice GOP. Can we count on your immediate $200 to elect pro-choice House Dems? Not even from a number I recognize.
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# ? May 3, 2022 16:53 |
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Can’t believe Bernie would sabotage abortion rights again
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# ? May 3, 2022 16:57 |
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Lmao gently caress this earth
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# ? May 3, 2022 16:59 |
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Bigfoot could always use another vote. Seriously I think I voted for Bigfoot in election once as a write in once? I mean I definitely did write in Lucio Fulci one time. But yeah I’d vote for this sexy mf’er anytime. I mean if you live in super super chud territory I don’t think anyone could blame you. I think you can make as much as statement to say that you’d rather vote for a mythical ape man then opposed to Lauren Bobert.
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# ? May 3, 2022 16:59 |
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This really is some next level poo poo, as far as insults go. Not only did they pull this off during a democratic administration, but with a lady vice president in office no less. Just loving lmao if you live in the United States and plan on starting a family right now. I sure hope that pregnancy goes off without a hitch because if something goes sideways you'll soon be irrecoverably turbo-hosed medically, legally, financially and in every other way that matters.
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# ? May 3, 2022 17:02 |
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guys I've been reading a lot of lib tweeter and it turns out this is our fault for *checks notes* not voting democrat enough in previous elections?
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Marshal Prolapse posted:
Yeah, it's unlikely Boebert loses my district this year. She has the western slope, which is absolutely full of the most regressive people in the state. The valley itself seems pretty split, but figure in the nuts further west and it doesn't look good for getting a dem in her seat. Bigfoot it is, I guess.
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maffew buildings posted:guys I've been reading a lot of lib tweeter and it turns out this is our fault for *checks notes* not voting democrat enough in previous elections? I'm going to take a bold stance and say that everyone who voted for Susan Collins is a colossal dipshit
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# ? May 3, 2022 17:12 |
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Between all the bullshit being passed by Florida (where I mostly grew up) and now this, I can't help but feel disgust and contempt for the bible thumping yokels that infest the rural areas of the country. It's depressing that this includes a lot of people I know from growing up in the South, including my own family members. I have more in common with city dwellers in other countries than I do with any American hick.
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maffew buildings posted:guys I've been reading a lot of lib tweeter and it turns out this is our fault for *checks notes* not voting democrat enough in previous elections? Yeah, the braindead fingerpointing really highlights how theyre not gonna fo poo poo about / to prevent this.
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# ? May 3, 2022 17:16 |
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CNN Article on sailors moving off the George Washington after a rash of deaths on the shipquote:More than 200 sailors moved off aircraft carrier after multiple suicides Link: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/03/politics/uss-george-washington-sailors/index.html Question 1 - I thought the GW was in the equivalent of drydock and that the sailors couldn't be berthed in what was effectively a construction zone. But I'm a stupid civvy who knows gently caress all about Navy beyond what I read from here. Could CNN be talking about those dorm-like barges? Question 2 - Given how public this got am I correct in assuming that Capt. Gaut is close to retirement / changing command and LOL gently caress You if you think anything beyond that will happen?
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Mustang posted:Between all the bullshit being passed by Florida (where I mostly grew up) and now this, I can't help but feel disgust and contempt for the bible thumping yokels that infest the rural areas of the country. It's depressing that this includes a lot of people I know from growing up in the South, including my own family members. It wasn’t rural hicks that did this or anything of consequence, it’s much more billionaire money
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