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This game is really fun. Works great on steam deck, too!
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So I pretty much only ever get kills extremely incidentally, like a goalie not moving out of the way of my Era special or somebody getting squeezed by my Asher special when I was really just trying to gently caress up their shot. For those of you who make KOs part of your strategy, just like...what's that like? I'm thinking about controlling space and opening opportunities, either when as goalie I try and keep the core away from where the opponent has space, or when I'm forward on being places the opponents aren't and interfering with the goalies ability to stop my from shooting. When you're actually getting kills do you feel like you need to be coordinating with your other forward, are you accepting loss of possession time to justify trying to get kills, what is like the sign that you're getting good opportunities for KOs as opposed to "gently caress it I'm just going to push goal."
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May 3, 2023 04:59
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Finally got around to trying this and been having a good time. Playing alot of Era in midfield being a general menace.Broken Cog posted:Man, so many people are banning Juno, I don't get it. I feel she just has more consistent reach compared to ranged options since the blobs linger around.
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May 3, 2023 05:13
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"Micropatch" notes, delivered via anime girl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkPwZXFh144 quote:MAPS AND MODES Surprised how many balance changes there are for a "micro" patch. I guess "regular" patches are reserved for new content or major mechanical reworks? Tulip posted:So I pretty much only ever get kills extremely incidentally, like a goalie not moving out of the way of my Era special or somebody getting squeezed by my Asher special when I was really just trying to gently caress up their shot. For those of you who make KOs part of your strategy, just like...what's that like? I'm thinking about controlling space and opening opportunities, either when as goalie I try and keep the core away from where the opponent has space, or when I'm forward on being places the opponents aren't and interfering with the goalies ability to stop my from shooting. When you're actually getting kills do you feel like you need to be coordinating with your other forward, are you accepting loss of possession time to justify trying to get kills, what is like the sign that you're getting good opportunities for KOs as opposed to "gently caress it I'm just going to push goal." Varies depending on the striker of course, and some are more suited to it than others. When I'm feeling like murdering fools I usually go with Juliette, since she can burst people down FAST with a full combo. Asher forward is another good option, and I see X and Dreikar players playing similarly. When it comes to playstyle, it's more about looking for opportunities and applying pressure - if you can't actively help hit the puck at the moment and don't think you'll immediately need one of your skills to save/score, then may as well use them to soften up some enemy targets. Better if you can hit the puck in the process. One of the enemy forwards being problematic? Start bullying them! If anyone's low on health (or full-on staggered) then they can't risk going anywhere near the edges of the arena if you're nearby, so you can use that to force openings to score through - either they leave the top open and you can push forward, or they move up to close the gap and then you knock em out. If nothing else, you can mostly play as though you aren't going for kills, but then when you notice someone low / staggered you can opportunistically take a quick moment to try and secure a kill if they wander near an edge and you're close by.
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May 3, 2023 15:35
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Also very important: you don't need people to be staggered / low hp to be able to KO them. If people position badly and stand too close to walls you can knock them out of the arena even from full hp, especially on mobile characters like Julia or Drekar.
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May 3, 2023 18:15
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Or with nice projectiles, like from Era, Juliette, Estelle, Ai.Mi, Luna, Juno...
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May 3, 2023 20:06
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There is a bit more coordination to KOs now. I play Kai, and I queue as Goalie, and I can still do the same instakills when opponents go near the edges (though I now rely a bit on the new random talent system giving me the range "cards" to do the really sick ones). But for kills on people closer to the middle, I now need someone else on my team to follow up. But it's great, it's really fun, I land a combo on someone and then our Juliette taps them with a right click and they fly to the edge and die. Makes it even more satisfying when it works, and also makes it more balanced. They may have gone too far though on the brawler vs goalie aspect, as I now feel basically invincible from the brawlers trying to KO me, brawlers may have been nerfed too much, since I assume that's not what they intended.
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May 3, 2023 20:55
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Boo, I don't mind them nerfing Era's special but I'd much rather they make it smaller than change the cooldown, it was a nice rhythm and now i'm gonna be all hosed up.RPATDO_LAMD posted:Also very important: you don't need people to be staggered / low hp to be able to KO them. Oh yeah I do get kills occassionally but its basically always by people getting too close to walls with high HP and I get some decent high knockback ability on them.
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May 4, 2023 03:43
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I'm sure goalies will still die to Era special since it seems to be invisible to all of mine lol. Also I've been playing competitive and I'm on a hot streak, unfortunately the last two games one of my enemies disconnected which made it feel kind of hollow. Hopefully they'll get the tech to at least put in a bot when someone quits.
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May 4, 2023 04:31
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God this game owns. A meme in my friend circle is that Overwatch achieves the incredible feat of 'winning feels like nothing and losing feels awful,' but Omega feels almost the opposite, where losing often feels really hardfought and worthwhile, while winning feels like a real achievement. Sometimes you have stomps or really frustrating matches like laggy ones, but they're really the exception instead of the rule. I'm also really coming around to enjoying normal/ranked format. I like the midgame drafting, it feels neat. Somebody let me stack sparks, 26% cooldown reduction is PRETTY GOOD. Kooriken posted:I'm sure goalies will still die to Era special since it seems to be invisible to all of mine lol. Also I've been playing competitive and I'm on a hot streak, unfortunately the last two games one of my enemies disconnected which made it feel kind of hollow. Hopefully they'll get the tech to at least put in a bot when someone quits. Had a game tonight where somebody disappeared for one round and then was back the next, so it looks like they have some ability to reconnect people. Brendan Rodgers posted:There is a bit more coordination to KOs now. I play Kai, and I queue as Goalie, and I can still do the same instakills when opponents go near the edges (though I now rely a bit on the new random talent system giving me the range "cards" to do the really sick ones). Amusingly tonight my team got KO'd at a higher rate than in any other point in my OS time. I was goalie all night and I was usually fine (I tend to play Asher and play toward the edge of the goal so its pretty tough to kill me, but one opposing asher did it!), but my two forwards were eating poo poo a LOT. We still won most of those matches because most teams we were against were not good at actually exploiting power plays, they'd just bum rush me in the goal instead of trying to pass around me, but also I'm bad and being matched against bad people.
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May 4, 2023 06:15
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I've seen a push for Drekar goalie ever since the game relaunched, what makes him so good at the role?
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May 4, 2023 13:56
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Countblanc posted:I've seen a push for Drekar goalie ever since the game relaunched, what makes him so good at the role? You can win core trades with the gun, and the stealth/speedboost lets him move around quickly. That's pretty much it, kind of the same reason why Kai is considered top tier. You can also be really annoying with his ult if you get some +debuff duration, but it's not the main reason. Edit: Also, his shotgun has really low cooldown, two charges, and if you get the Heavy Impact awakening, you can have it up almost constantly. Broken Cog fucked around with this message at 15:15 on May 4, 2023 |
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May 4, 2023 14:18
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Is there anybody whose just bad at either role overall? I don't like playing Era goalie but I see other people do it well. X, Juliette, and Zentaro seem like dubious goalie choices but I also don't like playing them as forwards *anyway*. I like the recent patch pushing for Dubu forward, its cool. I've often had trouble with Dubu forwards but its possible that the only people who even try that are already good with Dubu.
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May 4, 2023 19:13
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Atlas forward is probably the worst character/role combination in the game.
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May 4, 2023 19:56
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Broken Cog posted:Atlas forward is probably the worst character/role combination in the game. It definitely was but I'm not sure it is now. If you pick up speed from somewhere he wins trades really well.
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May 4, 2023 20:00
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curiousCat posted:It definitely was but I'm not sure it is now. If you pick up speed from somewhere he wins trades really well. Idunno, I've seen a couple of people try, but it's never worked well. He's just so slow and bulky, and his ult offers very little for forward pressure.
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May 4, 2023 20:03
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X isn't a good goalie but he's not completely useless at it, his ult makes him even bigger than Dubu and he can murder people if they try to force a goal by getting in his face. He's pretty vanilla but if you're good at actually hitting the ball at a good angle he can function. The worst goalie is probably Juno, you'd think she could do stuff with her slimes but she's so slow that the ball usually just slides in.
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May 4, 2023 20:07
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Broken Cog posted:Atlas forward is probably the worst character/role combination in the game. Yeah that's my thought as well. I've done it OK a few times but it was never better than similar stuff as Dubu or even Rune. Endorph posted:X isn't a good goalie but he's not completely useless at it, his ult makes him even bigger than Dubu and he can murder people if they try to force a goal by getting in his face. He's pretty vanilla but if you're good at actually hitting the ball at a good angle he can function. Huh, I goalie as Juno sometimes and I thought she was exceptionally good if anything. Being able to control space well into the midfield from the goal is great.
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May 4, 2023 22:30
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picked this up last night and it seems fun but boy it'd be nice if it had a practice area so i don't have to button-mash and whiff everything the first few games after buying a striker
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May 4, 2023 23:14
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Ciaphas posted:picked this up last night and it seems fun but boy it'd be nice if it had a practice area so i don't have to button-mash and whiff everything the first few games after buying a striker There are bot games at least, but yea
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May 4, 2023 23:56
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curiousCat posted:There are bot games at least, but yea I'm not sure you can even do them solo, it still does matchmaking - which I assume will take fuckin forever u less you have a full trio.
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May 5, 2023 00:14
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CodfishCartographer posted:I'm not sure you can even do them solo, it still does matchmaking - which I assume will take fuckin forever u less you have a full trio. I've had longest matchmaking for regular mode so far. Bot and quick have been very fast, comp has been a little slower but not too bad. Admittedly the game is still very new so maybe it'll get worse soon.
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May 5, 2023 00:35
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Tulip posted:Is there anybody whose just bad at either role overall? I don't like playing Era goalie but I see other people do it well. X, Juliette, and Zentaro seem like dubious goalie choices but I also don't like playing them as forwards *anyway*. I'd say theres three roles, goalie/mid/forward, G/M/F. Goalie does the obvious thing, mid for controlling passes with speed/ranged, forward for aggro strikes. X is a bastard since hes one of the most viable goalie killers, definitely good on forward. Juliette is great on forward since she can combo and out pressure a basic strike defense. Haven't messed with Zentaro but seeing him freeze a defensive reflect infront of the goal messes with your timing to knock it away.
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https://twitter.com/PlayOmega/status/1654175195341389845
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May 5, 2023 02:13
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Tulip posted:Huh, I goalie as Juno sometimes and I thought she was exceptionally good if anything. Being able to control space well into the midfield from the goal is great. Yeah, I've ran Juno goalie to mid gold so far with a 60%+ winrate, she's definitely not bad. One big thing I think people overlook about her is just how much damage she dishes out. Seriously, if you pick up some ranged/construct damage or the Stinger awakening, you can easily get most damage done in the match with a solid margin as goalie. It's just mostly overlooked because Juno herself doesn't really have that good KO potential. If you play with someone that does, however.... Edit: Also, hot tip for Aimi: Projectile travel/cast range actually affects the turret as well, so if you pick up one awakening with that, it can shoot across the entire arena. Edit2: Anyone know just how much 600 range is for the deadeye awakening? Broken Cog fucked around with this message at 09:23 on May 5, 2023 |
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May 5, 2023 09:10
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Broken Cog posted:Edit2: Anyone know just how much 600 range is for the deadeye awakening? I've heard "about half the field" but don't have confirmation
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May 5, 2023 19:20
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Kai's primary is 650 range at base, so slightly shorter than that.
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May 5, 2023 20:12
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SKULL.GIF posted:Kai's primary is 650 range at base, so slightly shorter than that. Where'd you find this btw? I swear it used to be in the tooltips and wiki but it doesn't look like it is anymore.
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May 5, 2023 20:21
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Tulip posted:Where'd you find this btw? I swear it used to be in the tooltips and wiki but it doesn't look like it is anymore. Was in the patch notes.
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drat, mid and high gold is when things start to really get sweaty. And people are STILL banning Juno
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May 5, 2023 23:04
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I really hope these streamer emotes are going to be removed at some point. They're easily the worst part of this game, particularly the ones of their actual faces.
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May 6, 2023 18:03
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SKULL.GIF posted:I really hope these streamer emotes are going to be removed at some point. They're easily the worst part of this game, particularly the ones of their actual faces. so many of them are super ugly and really clash with the art style (and yeah some are just a human face). like there's that weird one that looks like a sneering gray weasel or something and i assume it's a streamer thing and it looks like poo poo
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May 6, 2023 18:31
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Won a 2v3 where I was a Juno goalie and a friend was X. That certainly was an experience. slime stronk
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May 6, 2023 18:34
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i think i need to watch some of my replays of games with Juno in them to learn the slime shot priorities better. i know they like shooting toward the goal (obviously) but they also pass to each other and maybe do other stuff i'm unaware of. as it is now sometimes i find myself getting confused by even my own team's Juno's slimes also god i just had a game where the only emotes the other team used were the streamer ones and they're just so, so ugly. pls..
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May 6, 2023 21:23
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that tricky stuff isn't some super advanced slime AI, it's the terrifying power of the human mind  juno can aim them by hitting her leftclick at the same time the slime shoots as far as I can tell, the game literally doesn't say this anywhere
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May 6, 2023 21:53
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I think they preferentially pass to other slimes if Juno isn't controlling them, and the last slime in the chain will take the goal shot.RPATDO_LAMD posted:as far as I can tell, the game literally doesn't say this anywhere It's in the description of Juno's strike ability, she has an exclusive passive for it. Why they put that there instead of on the slime ability I dunno.
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May 6, 2023 22:09
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technically her strike actually has a different name from everyone else's strike
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May 6, 2023 22:18
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interesting. does using a Slime's Strike put hers on cooldown?
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asher's strike says something about her shields too but i'll be damned if i've noticed any different behavior at all
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Ciaphas posted:asher's strike says something about her shields too but i'll be damned if i've noticed any different behavior at all I'm convinced this is a remnant of some previous version of her that never got changed. I assumed at first that her skills would "use" her shields and you'd need to strike to recharge them, but nope.
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