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Saalkin posted:Hitchhikers guide to my balls complete with microscope
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Colonel Cancer posted:Nah it's just pseudointellectual masturbation I'm cool with a bit of that. Like, a lot of new wave sci-fi and post-punk and weirdo 70s cinema is exactly that and it's great, but Hitchhikers always felt like obnoxious engineer humour to me. It's this strain of humour where everyone is stupid and the world is nonsensically bureaucratic except for engineers who can just make things work because they are so smart. It feels kind of misanthropic and often a little elitist to me, like there's a real contempt for common people in there and it seems to break their brains that life might be inherently chaotic and meaningless, but that's not necessarily bad. I think its a bit distinct from neckbeard humour, which in my head I imagine to be something like Robot Chicken, I always associate it more with pub bores and e-mail pedants. Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 14:23 on May 1, 2023 |
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May 1, 2023 14:18
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Disco Pope posted:It's this strain of humour where everyone is stupid and the world is nonsensically bureaucratic except for engineers who can just make things work because they are so smart. It feels kind of misanthropic and often a little elitist to me, like there's a real contempt for common people in there and it seems to break their brains that life might be inherently chaotic and meaningless, but that's not necessarily bad. See: Dilbert
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May 1, 2023 14:24
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part of the issue was that in the very recent past, the only people with the time, education, opportunity and cultural inclination to read or write were white male engineering types so humor poking fun at the how the world doesn稚 make much sense is going to be from that perspective and it痴 going to be biased because the author only knows their own experiences enough to write about then the one or two actually good fun things ever written get quoted nonstop
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May 1, 2023 14:26
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Hammerite posted:you're not meant to laugh out loud at it, you're meant to puff on your pipe and go hmm, yes... very droll Oh yeah I see the problem now: I don't smoke a pipe.
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May 1, 2023 14:34
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People worried about folks who enjoy H2G2 but there are still anime freaks out there smdh
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May 1, 2023 14:40
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naem posted:part of the issue was that in the very recent past, the only people with the time, education, opportunity and cultural inclination to read or write were white male engineering types I think a lot of humour is based around absurdity or things being wrong. That's fine! As toddlers, it's loving hilarious when someone puts a shoe on their head or whatever - the absolute madman! I think when it grates is when it's combined with this kind of middle-class, English befuddlement that seems to imply that everything would make sense if only a "man like me who drinks pints of bitter and listens to Yes was in charge". I think Brazil is a film that actually does the whole satirical buearacratic dystopia thing really well, but there's this whole subgenre about being mad about forms and I just think "sometimes motorways or post offices are planned badly or whatever, yeah, just loving deal with it gently caress"
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May 1, 2023 14:46
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Disco Pope posted:I think a lot of humour is based around absurdity or things being wrong. That's fine! As toddlers, it's loving hilarious when someone puts a shoe on their head or whatever - the absolute madman! I think Douglas Adams makes fun of himself and his own social demographic pretty well too personally he痴 also attempting to reach an audience of middle class etc etc readers to point out that hey, their perspective on life doesn稚 make much sense either there are def bad actors out there who don稚 pick up on any progressive themes hidden in the humor and those are usually the ones quoting the hardest unfortunately
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May 1, 2023 14:57
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naem posted:I think Douglas Adams makes fun of himself and his own social demographic pretty well too personally That's cool to hear. I bounced off the book and can't really remember much about the movie other than Zooey Deschanel's legs. I reckon I've probably missed my window for enjoying HHGttG, but its cool that Adams was cool. Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 15:06 on May 1, 2023 |
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May 1, 2023 15:03
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Disco Pope posted:I'm cool with a bit of that. Like, a lot of new wave sci-fi and post-punk and weirdo 70s cinema is exactly that and it's great, but Hitchhikers always felt like obnoxious engineer humour to me. yeh there's definitely a certain sort of person who is going to enjoy jokes about 42 and always carrying a towel, for sure. Hitchhiker's Guide, being a parody of all the new wave/weirdo sci-fi genre, makes it very wink-wink nod-nod to a certain type of person who was mired in sci-fi at the time. it kinda has a place and time that gives it the most power, and removed from the context seems to lose that punch and get increasingly more obnoxious with time. I always felt like Discworld did a lot better job of parodying the genre of fantasy while pointing out the absurdity of the world, without being quite as insufferable. Pratchett came up with Boots theory, after all.
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May 1, 2023 15:05
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anyway, my middle school boyfriend was obsessed with hitchhiker's guide and consequently it really sits firmly in my brain as a kid thing
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May 1, 2023 15:07
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StrangersInTheNight posted:yeh there's definitely a certain sort of person who is going to enjoy jokes about 42 and always carrying a towel, for sure. Hitchhiker's Guide, being a parody of all the new wave/weirdo sci-fi genre, makes it very wink-wink nod-nod to a certain type of person who was mired in sci-fi at the time. it kinda has a place and time that gives it the most power, and removed from the context seems to lose that punch and get increasingly more obnoxious with time. Yeah! Pratchett was a big deal to me as a kid - it blew my mind at 11 that books could be funny and kind after picking up Soul Music at the library, purely because it had a picture of the grim reaper on a motorbike on the cover. And I've cooled on Pratchett slightly on re-reads, but I still associate him with humanism over cynicism.
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May 1, 2023 15:09
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I never read it because the kids who did read it were not cool and I wanted to be cool so I read Goosebumps and then I scored.
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May 1, 2023 15:41
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kntfkr posted:I never read it because the kids who did read it were not cool and I wanted to be cool so I read Goosebumps and then I scored. Point Horror and Fear Street was cool because you could talk to girls about it and it was a sign they were ready to make out at the school disco.
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May 1, 2023 15:59
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Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency was way better imo. Also goons will just hate on absolutely anything these days.
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May 1, 2023 16:01
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Disco Pope posted:Point Horror and Fear Street was cool because you could talk to girls about it and it was a sign they were ready to make out at the school disco. Been saying this.
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May 1, 2023 16:02
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Douglas Adams does indeed make lolrandom humor but you have to understand that at the time he did it getting lolrandom humor was somehow very difficult even though there was decades worth of pent up demand. We all finally got it out of our system in the 00s so it seems dumb and predictable but in 1978 space towels were cutting edge humor.
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May 1, 2023 16:14
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Internet Old One posted:Douglas Adams does indeed make lolrandom humor but you have to understand that at the time he did it getting lolrandom humor was somehow very difficult even though there was decades worth of pent up demand. The social unrest of the 60s and economic doldrums of the 70s would have been a lot smoother if people could talk about the penguin... of death! or debate pirates vs ninjas.
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May 1, 2023 16:35
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If the jokes and writing seem bad it's because we associate it with the cringey nerds who drove it into the ground
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May 1, 2023 17:16
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Is towlie from South Park a hitchhikers joke?
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May 1, 2023 18:07
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Flowers for QAnon posted:Is towlie from South Park a hitchhikers joke? Can't say, never read it. #goosebumps
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May 1, 2023 18:56
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Preoptopus posted:Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency was way better imo. Also goons will just hate on absolutely anything these days. You'll never become super cool and achieve satori unless you give up your attachment to ever enjoying anything on its merits in favour of just shrieking at people that they're casuals for liking things and that you don't know how they don't miss work by getting eternally stuck in a loop of losing at three-card monte every day.
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May 1, 2023 19:01
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Someone said Last Chance to See is the best book and this it true. I will say Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency is his best creative work. The movie is absolute rear end and DNA would have never allowed that travesty to happen. It was made by people who didn't actually understand the humor and actually removed it from whatever remnants of script they had that DNA actually penned. Adams actual writing is very strong, even if the humor doesn't work for you. The first book doesn't have much of a plot, though. But for crafting each and every word, he was an artist.
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May 1, 2023 19:18
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Some things are just too british for me to handle
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Caesar Saladin posted:Some things are just too british for me to handle Totally get this.
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May 1, 2023 19:25
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Bri段sh
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feelix posted:Lolrandom British garbage for nerds to quote forever until it becomes even less funny than it already is Like all idiots, you fall to recognize the lolrandom exists because of it.
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May 1, 2023 19:44
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you're wrong op, the entire guide series still holds up and owns to this day
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May 1, 2023 19:46
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that said, the Hitchhiker's movie, which is kinda poo poo tbh, is still something I have on my shelf bc I love the puppets so much, specifically the Vogons. those are some of Henson Company's best work in the last *checks release date*....20 years!!!!! holy poo poo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHE1y0NAukg&t=324s StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 19:52 on May 1, 2023 |
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May 1, 2023 19:49
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Like all idiots, you fall to recognize the lolrandom exists because of it. You are right. I am too stupid to recognize that not only did I not like the book itself, the book was also responsible for creating an entire genre of humor that I do not like. This new information has made me like the book?
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May 2, 2023 16:55
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The real question here, what the gently caress are "cow tools"???
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May 2, 2023 17:00
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StrangersInTheNight posted:yeh there's definitely a certain sort of person who is going to enjoy jokes about 42 and always carrying a towel, for sure. Hitchhiker's Guide, being a parody of all the new wave/weirdo sci-fi genre, makes it very wink-wink nod-nod to a certain type of person who was mired in sci-fi at the time. it kinda has a place and time that gives it the most power, and removed from the context seems to lose that punch and get increasingly more obnoxious with time. I am so thankful we all realized that winking at the audience is loving stupid
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May 2, 2023 17:06
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Hitchhiker's Guide is probably kind of a particular thing that kicked off a genre of sci-fi where the protagonist isn't a superhero ubermensch but a random rear end loser bumbling around barely not getting killed by all kinds of random crazy poo poo he has barely any context for and generally being a space hobo. Like the kinda thing you see developed on with Red Dwarf, Lexx, even Cowboy Bebop.
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May 2, 2023 17:44
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I rewatched the first four Red Dwarf series not too long ago and a lot of those jokes don't age well either. "Backwards" being a good example. I don't know why that seemed so clever at the time.
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May 2, 2023 18:04
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Only read the first three discworld books but I hated them all. Twee, whimsical british horse poo poo. British people sure seem to like comedy that never makes you laugh or even smile once. Read the first hitchhiker's guide when I was like 12. It was... fine. I was 12 though.
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May 2, 2023 18:58
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May 2, 2023 19:01
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If people dogpile me I'll just ignore them. The books just bored the hell out of me, no sex, no gore, the loving wizard can't cast spells, it's just loving lame. I shoulda been reading Elric at that age, that's what I would've enjoyed.
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May 2, 2023 19:03
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Cor, DM!
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When I think back to some trash I read when I was 12, like Dragonlance, I just shudder.
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At least the wizards cast spells in dragonlance.
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