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It is a particle or particle like object that comes spontaneously into existence when mass passes through a something something field. It was once a mathematical concept that said "let's treat gravity as if it is a force conveyed as though a particle is fired across space, like a tiny ping pong ball." A guy named Higg predicted that this ping pong ball actually exists and that we'd see one some day just like we have seen other tiny sub-subatomic particles like quarks. The guys running the giant particle collider crashed some stuff together to blast it apart and actually found and recorded a higg's boson particle exactly as he predicted like last year. It's gravity is what it is
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Gravity is a force pushing mass from areas of high space time density to areas of low space time density. That's way planets and stars have gravity wells, wells go low in the ground.
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Aug 18, 2014 23:43
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Zev posted:Gravity is a force pushing mass from areas of high space time density to areas of low space time density. That's way planets and stars have gravity wells, wells go low in the ground. gravity is an apparent force space time does not have a density, it has curvature
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Aug 18, 2014 23:48
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youre big fat mom has lots of gravitons bc she likes gravy tons
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Aug 18, 2014 23:54
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i got a chem degree so like i get how poo poo interacts but i wont even delve into WHY it does whatever it does poo poo cray science dope
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Aug 18, 2014 23:54
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*bows*
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Aug 18, 2014 23:55
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like i get space time abstractly but what IS that poo poo you feel me gently caress
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Aug 18, 2014 23:55
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OP if you're looking for an internet investigation, you best head off to reddit instead i heard they figured out who the boston bombers were! turned out they were brown people with foreign sounding names
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Aug 19, 2014 00:00
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Calvin Johnson Jr. posted:like i get space time abstractly but what IS that poo poo you feel me imagine three spheres
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Aug 19, 2014 00:01
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ilikedirt posted:imagine three spheres get ur nerd rear end outta here that dont make any sense
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Aug 19, 2014 00:56
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redshirt posted:Well, friend, consider it from a spatial, geometry perspective. We sit in Earth's gravity well, which sits in the Sun's, which sits in the central black hole's, which sits in the shared orbit of Andromeda, etc. You have the perspective the wrong way around. Solar systems are at the bottom of reality. The highest "hill" exists where the effect of gravitation is the least, in the interstellar spaces, and up near the speed of light. We're a VERY long way down from there.
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Aug 19, 2014 01:03
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SHISHKABOB posted:the gravitational influence of the super massive black hole on the rest of the galaxy is practically zero this is a retarded statement naem posted:It is a particle or particle like object that comes spontaneously into existence when mass passes through a something something field. no it isn't, it has almost nothing to do with gravity
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Aug 19, 2014 01:22
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Nathilus posted:there's this rather expensive loop thing somewhere in europe that was designed to explain this, don't you check the loving news? They've been flipping out since at least 2008. i rememebr some sciencefag saying to detect gravity particles we'd need a loop thing the size of jupiters orbit or maybe circumference
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Aug 19, 2014 01:23
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redshirt posted:Like Shishkabob says, it's totally correct at certain scales. I believe the Apollo missions were calculated using Newtonian Dynamics. It also posits gravity as an attractive force - nothing said about the means of this attraction. Relativity states that gravity really isn't a force at all, just space time geometry. QD posits the graviton and it's supposed to behave like the other imaginary particles which make up the Quantum world. Look redshirt, I'm no scientigician, but my understanding was that there will always be slight differences in their predictions. But when dealing with everyday problems that involve weak gravitational fields, the differences are so infinitesimally small that they're basically impossible to measure. Just off the top of my head, I'd think that Newton's erroneous belief in the instantaneous propagation of gravity through space would necessarily throw off every measurement by some amount. Am I wrong?
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Aug 19, 2014 01:24
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indigi posted:this is a retarded statement ahahahahaha please tell me why
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Aug 19, 2014 01:26
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Nathilus posted:You have the perspective the wrong way around. Solar systems are at the bottom of reality. The highest "hill" exists where the effect of gravitation is the least, in the interstellar spaces, and up near the speed of light. We're a VERY long way down from there. Well that's your opinion, init?
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Aug 19, 2014 01:32
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Benedick Cuckold posted:Look redshirt, I'm no scientigician, but my understanding was that there will always be slight differences in their predictions. But when dealing with everyday problems that involve weak gravitational fields, the differences are so infinitesimally small that they're basically impossible to measure. Just off the top of my head, I'd think that Newton's erroneous belief in the instantaneous propagation of gravity through space would necessarily throw off every measurement by some amount. Am I wrong? since it propagates at the speed of light anything within an observer's light cone would feel the effects effectively instantly
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Aug 19, 2014 01:35
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Imagine that light is milk. And yogurt is gravity. Much like how science cannot capably discern how milk transmogrifies itself into yogurt, the same inexplicable process turn light into the effects of gravity. No one can say, in any capacity whatsoever how milk can become yogurt, no amount of science has ever revealed how this process works (nor can it for obvious reasons); so to the inobservable process of light turning to gravity continues to occur all around us.
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Aug 19, 2014 01:53
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indigi posted:No it isn't, it has almost nothing to do with gravity it's the thing that conveys gratify according to CNN, why else wer'e we all excited about it
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Aug 19, 2014 01:56
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indigi posted:since it propagates at the speed of light anything within an observer's light cone would feel the effects effectively instantly I'm afraid you've lost me there. What do you mean by effectively instantly? A gravitational force a light year away is going to take one year to reach me, no matter what. If the sun exploded right now, we wouldn't feel the loss of its gravitational pull for a full eight minutes.
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Aug 19, 2014 01:57
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When we see things, that is when they "happen". It's the relativity of simultaneity.
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Aug 19, 2014 02:06
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gravity is a beam, like light
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Aug 19, 2014 02:08
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redshirt posted:Well that's your opinion, init? no the entire point of a hill is that you can coast down it. you can't magically slide uphill without expending energy but (friction willing) you can slide downhill without expending energy.
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Aug 19, 2014 15:00
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dude it's like, the curvature of spAce. like, space curves to occupy your ludicrous asshiole, which causes thinking in u if u think about it (thinking) so like, spoace is a super 2-d grid. nope bitch matter has none of that lets make it a 3dimension. and so, space curves. all u need to kno
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Aug 19, 2014 15:05
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Gravity is proof god exists because Praise to allah
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Aug 19, 2014 15:11
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gravity is love... gaius?
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Aug 19, 2014 15:15
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Nathilus posted:no the entire point of a hill is that you can coast down it. you can't magically slide uphill without expending energy but (friction willing) you can slide downhill without expending energy. Well we're above the central black hole, are we not?
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Aug 19, 2014 15:15
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SHISHKABOB posted:When we see things, that is when they "happen". It's the relativity of simultaneity. Yeah that's why it's called space-time because everything is bound by the speed of light. Information is bound by the speed of light. You can SAY that the suns light is "8 minutes old" but really, it's been 8 minutes old for the entire existence of the solar system to us. You can also say we're 8 minutes behind, kinda.
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Aug 19, 2014 15:19
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redshirt posted:Well we're above the central black hole, are we not? yeah, of course, since it has higher gravitation. it might be compared to being on the bottom of the pacific basin (us) vs being on the bottom of the mariana trench. this comparison breaks down of course because there are interstellar distances even within our own galaxy where the gravity you feel from both our star and the central galactic object are negligible.
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Aug 19, 2014 15:20
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redshirt posted:Well we're above the central black hole, are we not? I think I see what he's saying. Earth is within it's own gravity well, at the very bottom. Spacecraft fight to escape earths gravity well, an uphill struggle, then are pulled into the suns gravity well, which, essentially, is a shallow curve since it's so massive. The planets are dips on that curve, like pockmarks, and then the suns gravity well, is a dip in the galaxy's gravity well Erm by bottom I mean relatively. The above answer is better
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Aug 19, 2014 15:21
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Your Dead Gay Son posted:Yeah that's why it's called space-time because everything is bound by the speed of light. Information is bound by the speed of light. Even cooler, sunlight is more like a million years old. It's been trapped inside the sun for a long time before it escapes the surface.
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Aug 19, 2014 15:21
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photons never age, they are immortal. if we were going that fast too, we'd never age. or have any mass or whatever POINT IS poo poo happens independent of your dumb rear end, but you ain't detecting poo poo until the photons get recepted by your photon-receptacles
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Aug 19, 2014 15:22
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Totes
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Aug 19, 2014 15:22
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Your Dead Gay Son posted:I think I see what he's saying. Earth is within it's own gravity well, at the very bottom. Spacecraft fight to escape earths gravity well, an uphill struggle, then are pulled into the suns gravity well, which, essentially, is a shallow curve since it's so massive. The planets are dips on that curve, like pockmarks, and then the suns gravity well, is a dip in the galaxy's gravity well probably a better way to put it. GJ.
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Aug 19, 2014 15:22
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Your Dead Gay Son posted:I think I see what he's saying. Earth is within it's own gravity well, at the very bottom. Spacecraft fight to escape earths gravity well, an uphill struggle, then are pulled into the suns gravity well, which, essentially, is a shallow curve since it's so massive. The planets are dips on that curve, like pockmarks, and then the suns gravity well, is a dip in the galaxy's gravity well Turn that gravity well upside down! We're at the very pinnacle of reality!
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Aug 19, 2014 15:23
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I mean, we'd never age relative to other bodies. A space ship traveling at near light speed (97% iirc) would experience time dilation relative to slower objects (earth) so the ship would be 2000 years old physically, but 10,000 years old compared to earth
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Aug 19, 2014 15:24
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you ever miss and put your dick through the bedsheet? the earth's gravitational field acts the exact same way
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Aug 19, 2014 15:24
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redshirt posted:Turn that gravity well upside down! We're at the very pinnacle of reality! dont actually do this, someone may get hurt
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Aug 19, 2014 15:36
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Zzulu posted:when the aliens come and use their gravity cannons and gravity bombs and gravity bullets on us we better have figured out how to deal with gravity airplanes
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Aug 19, 2014 15:39
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hey. idiots. the higgs mechanism results in mass for elementary particles, not gravity for enormous clumps of particles. gravity is made of time and mass. there is no gravity without both, and adding anything else produces no effect. therefore it must be made of time and mass. and no the higgs mass is not the same as gravity mass. the higgs mechanism is for inertia and poo poo.
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