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Dapper_Swindler posted:not all herpers are psychos. my gf and i arn't and she feeds her snakes pre killed rats which is the safer/humane option(because a rat can gently caress up your snake) My snake-owning friends as well, it's more humane for both the rat (I hope that those are killed in a humane fashion), and the snake, as you said. This guy is grinning. If he hasn't killed any people yet, he's on the fast track.
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Flyball posted:My snake-owning friends as well, it's more humane for both the rat (I hope that those are killed in a humane fashion), and the snake, as you said. This guy is grinning. If he hasn't killed any people yet, he's on the fast track. probably. states are really weird with what your able to keep. like where i live, you can pretty much keep anything without a license outside a few animals(mostly local wildlife) but you can own crocs and cobras if you want.
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amusinginquiry posted:I still don't understand. He fed a puppy to a turtle? A deformed and terminally sick puppy. Still weird to drown it though just let it die an honorable death
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Hypothetical situation : Long long ago Coyotes and other "dog things" Would have litters in the woods. Some of them wouldn't be strong, and the mother would abandon them to care for the rest. A snapping turtle would then find the puppy and eat it. Nature. Current Hypothetical Situation : Lady has a dog breeding company. Shes not a back yard breeder and does her best to have healthy dogs that merit papers. Her dog has a litter. one is runty and the mother abandons it. Now does she A : Feed it with an eye dropper into a bottle, and create a genetic monstrosity that requires thousands of vet bills through its life. or does she B : Call Mr Tutsan who has a giant snapping turtle, something that is mostly missing from this world these days, and give the puppy to him. In both situations the result is the same, Nature. But for some reason this is given the most intolerant view to the point of ad homin and death threats, loss of career.
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Mar 17, 2018 18:09
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Someone snitched.
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Mar 17, 2018 18:13
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OlmanRiver posted:Hypothetical situation : I'm sorry, but according to this screed you're really dumb.
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Mar 17, 2018 18:15
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It's okay to subject a living creature to a terrifying and painful death just to feed your childlike fascination with seeing things eat each other, because worse things happen in nature!
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Grevling posted:I'm sorry, but according to this screed you're really dumb. he's just saying that he should have been fed to a snapping turtle as a baby because he was born so defective and ugly. and you know, i can't really argue with that logic.
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Mar 17, 2018 18:20
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What would you have done with the sick puppy then? Cried as it dies over 3 days then bury it? Drowning it was probably more humane then that.
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Mar 17, 2018 18:21
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man who feeds dead human baby to his pets: "dont worry it was already dead. plus its nature and science. youre being very ignorant"
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Mar 17, 2018 18:23
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OlmanRiver posted:Hypothetical situation : THIS GUY WANTS TO KILL PUPPIES
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Mar 17, 2018 18:28
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I wonder why medical euthanasia isn't an option. I mean, yeah drugs cost money but a very young puppy can't need that much to clock out. Sad tales all around.
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Mar 17, 2018 18:29
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I mean a breeder looking to make a profit can't bring in deformed dogs to the vet and pay 500+ dollars for euthanasia + cremation. And no i Don't want to kill puppies, i'm trying to devil advocate this teacher.
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Mar 17, 2018 18:30
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Think about how great it must have been for the snapping turtle to eviscerate those rats and that puppy.
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Mar 17, 2018 18:32
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How erect are you rn
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OlmanRiver posted:I mean a breeder looking to make a profit can't bring in deformed dogs to the vet and pay 500+ dollars for euthanasia + cremation.
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Thank you for the non ad homin answer. So then you , as the breeder, would then pay 200? dollars and then bury it in the back yard each and every time your mother dog has a failed pup?
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Mar 17, 2018 18:36
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OlmanRiver posted:Would it have been ok if he had fed it a "feed Rat" ? dogs are special because humans made them evolve to love us. its is evolutionary betrayal to use them as food of any kind
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OlmanRiver posted:Thank you for the non ad homin answer. Logically the breeder should toss her malformed stock to a tank of snapping turtles 
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Mar 17, 2018 18:38
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OlmanRiver posted:Thank you for the non ad homin answer. And well, I'm not saying to have a mass grave for failed puppues, but I'm not *not* saying it. You feel me?
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Mar 17, 2018 18:39
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You would be really hard pressed to find any shelter willing to do anything like that for free. Most breeders do not live in the city near shelters anyway, there will be 1, perhaps 2 available vets. Most vets will not see you for under 200 dollars. This isn't sustainable, what other options for the rural breeder are there for deformed, 1 eyed, obviously failed pups?
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Mar 17, 2018 18:44
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OlmanRiver posted:You would be really hard pressed to find any shelter willing to do anything like that for free. Most breeders do not live in the city near shelters anyway, there will be 1, perhaps 2 available vets. Most vets will not see you for under 200 dollars. a shotgun shell costs like $0.50
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Mar 17, 2018 18:49
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OlmanRiver posted:i'm trying to devil advocate this teacher. unless this is your "i was just kidding" backpedal post
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Mar 17, 2018 18:50
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Fine, this makes a mess and caucuses particles of lead to be strewn over what ever area of your breeder farm. It will also cause distress from the dogs as they will smell it. I confer that drowning is still the more humane method. And for the peanut gallery, Arguing agricultural law is important even if you think its gross.
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gary oldmans diary posted:devils advocate is when you argue on behalf of something you specifically disagree with. just thought you should know what that phrase means I won't back pedal, if i used the wrong word fine. I'm trying to defend this teacher against people who are using non scientific reasoning. Please, join the conversation and prove me wrong with more then feelings. What would YOU do with the puppy as a breeder?
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Mar 17, 2018 18:52
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I'm pretty sure snapping turtles will eat chicken nuggets or really anything you dunk in the tank, there's no reason whatsoever to feed them live animals beyond cruelty
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Mar 17, 2018 18:53
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i dunno how they do it exactly but it's incredibly retarded to assume that breeders don't have a cheap, reliable method to euth animals.
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Mar 17, 2018 18:54
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naem posted:I'm pretty sure snapping turtles will eat chicken nuggets or really anything you dunk in the tank, there's no reason whatsoever to feed them live animals beyond cruelty What would you do with those 4~ failed puppies you get every year as a qualified breeder?
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OlmanRiver posted:I won't back pedal, if i used the wrong word fine. I'm trying to defend this teacher against people who are using non scientific reasoning. Please, join the conversation and prove me wrong with more then feelings. What would YOU do with the puppy as a breeder?
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OlmanRiver posted:I won't back pedal, if i used the wrong word fine. I'm trying to defend this teacher against people who are using non scientific reasoning. Please, join the conversation and prove me wrong with more then feelings. What would YOU do with the puppy as a breeder? THIS GUY WANTS TO DROWN PUPPIES
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also it's not scientific reasoning to use a bunch of logical fallacies to defend rapidly shifting goalposts, idiot.
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You guys are boring and incapable of debate. i'm out, go back to your puppy murder death to turtle circle jerk.
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OlmanRiver posted:What would you do with those 4~ failed puppies you get every year as a qualified breeder? My dog as a kid was the runt of a litter of fancy dogs that we got for free and he was my very best friend and lived for almost 20 years
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you don't even understand the concept of a debate. it's not a matter of one person making up a bunch of easily disproved bullshit and then everyone else losing all higher brain function and agreeing with them. sniveling about how no one understands how smart you are so you are going home just means you are cowardly on top of being too stupid to breathe unassisted.
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OlmanRiver posted:You guys are boring and incapable of debate. *remembers he forgot to try to get the last word in* "you guys are dumb jerks  im not even mad im literally laughing at you"
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Mar 17, 2018 19:02
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Deformed puppies don't feel pain, so it's ok to have one ripped apart.
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Mar 17, 2018 19:03
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Just score some fentanyl from the corner, and shoot it up the puppy
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Bombadilillo posted:I remind you Oregon let armed terrorists the caused millions in damages go because they were good old boys. Don't forget the Rajneeshees!
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OlmanRiver posted:What would you do with those 4~ failed puppies you get every year as a qualified breeder? If you are a 'qualified' breeder, I would suppose you've been through this situation a few times. Not every baby is (and I don't know the correct terminology) able to thrive. And I'd also suppose you produce quite a few sickly puppies or kittens or whatever if you are breeding, because purebred domestic animals tend to have a lot of health problems to begin with, and also there are infant mortality rates for every species that reproduces, right? So, I'd think, if it were me -- which it wouldn't be -- but if it were, I'd know already that some of these dogs won't make it straight out the gate, and I'd have a non-getting-eaten-alive euthanasia option already.
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death is a part of nature but so is a monkey loving a frog so i don't know
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