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Lothire
Jan 27, 2007

Rx Suicide emailed me and all I got was this amazingly awesome forum account.

Tortured By Flan
I think I saw that lodge! My only stop on the way to was at a Safeway in Chehalis, then into Portland from there. I was surprised my bike didn't need to go into reserves at all during the trip.

Suffice to say I'll be taking some time before I do anything like that again! I like the engine guard idea for my legs as those started to ache the most, I'll have to keep that in mind when shopping for some additions for the bike. A different seat is something I'm definitely after as well. My grip problems are a bit all over the place. I do have a death grip at times, but I don't have a windshield either and I find I'm fighting a lot of wind resistance, which a shield would probably cut down on I'm guessing. My gloves are very thick too and take some effort to work around the throttle, I really need to buy a thinner pair for the warmer weather we're getting.

Nice to hear about another Everett goon. :) I'd say to keep an eye out for me but I'm your standard mostly-in-black-with-some-reflection type.

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Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Lothire posted:

Well, that was quite fun.

Left Everett, WA yesterday to visit a friend of mine in Portland, OR. 180-ish miles. This was the first time I've taken the motorcycle (Honda Shadow 750) anywhere near that many miles in one ride, while I had done the trip a few times before via car.
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I'll be thinking about those discomforts for a while. I know I can fix up the seat by searching for some after market product, but I'm not certain about the stiff arms and sore leg/ankles. There's a certain degree of it being me, in that most of my commuting is about 25-ish miles to and back from work. Not at all use to riding for longer than 40 minutes or so, where the entire trip took roughly 3 hours. Still, it was quite a treat. Enjoyed waving to all the other bikers along the way, great fun.

See if you can snag a ride on a more standard seating position motorcycle. All of those complaints that you have are the same that I have about anything that's got the cruiser position when ridden for an extended period. The same is true for sportbikes, although it'll be your knees, neck, and wrists that'll kill ya. Give a standard a shot if you want to take more trips.

n8r
Jul 3, 2003

I helped Lowtax become a cyborg and all I got was this lousy avatar
You could just ride what you have more often. Like anything long riding takes some getting used to. Do a few more long rides and try to always keep moving around on the bike. The only thing worth spending money on is a throttle lock which is the best $20 (vistacruise) you can spend for any bike.

I enjoyed the part of the story where you insist on using google maps/gps to find gas stations. You are only traveling on a highly populated freeway that probably has gas stations every 3 miles. You know you can find a gas station by just following a sign as well!

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard
Finally got an opportunity to really give the bead seat a trial, last weekend. It was pretty warm out, 80ish probably at its best. Did about 400 miles Friday-Sunday, and the blast of cold air under my rear end was amazing the whole time. The only gripe I have about it is that it sits me about an inch higher on the saddle, and it's amazing what one inch will do to throw my relaxed riding position out of whack.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




I dont think the beads go on the seat and under your rear end, dude........

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

I'm pretty sure they do (unless your joke has flown way over my head).

Nerobro
Nov 4, 2005

Rider now with 100% more titanium!

Safety Dance posted:

I'm pretty sure they do (unless your joke has flown way over my head).

By 10,000 feet. Don't look it up.

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?

clutchpuck posted:

Finally got an opportunity to really give the bead seat a trial, last weekend. It was pretty warm out, 80ish probably at its best. Did about 400 miles Friday-Sunday, and the blast of cold air under my rear end was amazing the whole time. The only gripe I have about it is that it sits me about an inch higher on the saddle, and it's amazing what one inch will do to throw my relaxed riding position out of whack.

My god how did I not know these existed for bikes? My under-tail exhaust is kinda nice in the colder weather but it's warm in the summer. I bet those would do wonders.

Tenchrono
Jun 2, 2011


I really miss my bike after almost a year of not having one. Driving a car just isnt the same :smith:.

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof
Thanks for the tire advice guys. Im going to give the pilot road 3's a try.

A spot of bad news though, my reg/rec seems to have bitten the dust. Hooray Honda!

I'm really pissed because I specifically asked the po if the bike had charging problems and if that's why it had a new battery. He of course lied to me.

Always bring a multimeter gents. Its gonna be an expensive week for me

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard

nsaP posted:

My god how did I not know these existed for bikes? My under-tail exhaust is kinda nice in the colder weather but it's warm in the summer. I bet those would do wonders.

It's great. With the Buell set up for me to pretty much dry hump the rear cylinder all day long, having that additional airflow is WONDERFUL. I got it from http://www.beadrider.com in case you're curious.

Oh I forgot one other consideration: They're not fantastic for aggressive, canyon-carving riding - the beads are like ball bearings that allow your rear end to slide around on an otherwise grippy seat. But for long hot slab runs, I am thinking it'll do just fine.

Nerobro posted:

By 10,000 feet. Don't look it up.

Is that an anal bead joke, or is it actually funny and I still don't get it?

clutchpuck fucked around with this message at 23:29 on May 6, 2013

Wootcannon
Jan 23, 2010

HAIL SATAN, PRINCE OF LIES
400 mile run this weekend through the Highlands, did the 200 up through the worst storm I've ever been in. Only saw two other bikers on a very popular biking road, and both did the nod-doubletake of "L plates...is that a loving 125 in this weather?!". Did a hell of a lot for my confidence, zero visibility, top speed shot up and down depending on the wind (dropping to 45-50 if there's a strong side or headwind is terrible for ones self-image), had everything from sideways rain to Millenium-Falcon-going-into-hyperspace snow, and only started shouting "CAN YOU SEE THIS MOTHERFUCKER" while flipping off cars with their brights and foglights on in the last half-hour of the drive (which was also when I couldn't feel my hands because of the sudden temperature drop and soaked through gloves, couldn't grip my throttle properly for the snow and had to bend my arm out like a chicken to change throttle position).

Ride down was great, bumped into about 20-30 English folk taking the road down through Aviemore and the Cairngorms with much nicer weather, let them overtake so as not to disrupt their group then used the spaces they'd made in traffic. Very angry with myself for doing the stupidest overtake ever, trying to keep up with another four bikers and ended up beside the Merc I thought I had time to overtake, a coach, and three oncoming caravans. Literally slotted in to the tiny space between the Merc and the coach, I actually leaned to slide in the second I saw my back tire had almost passed his wing, as the caravans just missed smacking my handlebar. Extremely stupid, could have been very easily killed, left lots of horns behind, it's just one of those situations where I've got a bit too cocky and not realised I don't have the power necessary to do that, having previously overtaken much slower moving traffic fine. On that note, I keep forgetting "open throttle full and bang through the gears" doesn't actually help a 125 get to motorway speeds at all.

The only real downside is that when I left work on Friday to go up North I had the guys in work say "well, won't see you on Tuesday" given the weather, I tell them just to go ahead and pack my desk away if they hear about a biker dying up that way. Sadly two have this weekend so I may have accidentally panicked my colleagues!

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




clutchpuck posted:

Is that an anal bead joke, or is it actually funny and I still don't get it?

It's both. Recommend method of uninstallation is "trying to start a lawn mower that has been sitting for a decade"

ReelBigLizard
Feb 27, 2003

Fallen Rib

Wootcannon posted:

400 mile run this weekend through the Highlands... Millenium-Falcon-going-into-hyperspace snow... 125cc

poo poo, and I thought I was hardcore for riding 9 miles through a blizzard on the KTM...

Next time I'm north of Hadrian's wall we should grab a beer.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

ReelBigLizard posted:

poo poo, and I thought I was hardcore for riding 9 miles through a blizzard on the KTM...

Next time I'm north of Hadrian's wall we should grab a beer.

In fairness travelling 9 miles away from a garage on a KTM is pretty hardcore, regardless of weather.

ReelBigLizard
Feb 27, 2003

Fallen Rib

goddamnedtwisto posted:

In fairness travelling 9 miles away from a garage on a KTM is pretty hardcore, regardless of weather.

Bizarrely my KTM has been my most reliable bike. It's shaken loose a couple of indicators and almost shook loose the water pump drain plug but in 22k mi I don't think it's left me stranded once, the closest it came was when the cam chain tensioner collapsed and it still limped to the garage. My R1 has an alarm fitted that kills the battery if it's not left on a tender (which it isn't). My BSA has a tendency to switch to a total-loss electrical system (because it's a BSA) and I haven't even taken my Honda on the roads yet, although that's largely due to the multiple sins of multiple previous owners.

karms
Jan 22, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Yam Slacker

n8r posted:

You could just ride what you have more often. Like anything long riding takes some getting used to. Do a few more long rides and try to always keep moving around on the bike. The only thing worth spending money on is a throttle lock which is the best $20 (vistacruise) you can spend for any bike.

All of this is my advice as well, but the throttle lock. Sitting on the bike for a long period is the only way to be better at sitting on a bike for a long period. You'll learn what pains are temporary and what can be mitigated by movement/posture, which is the key to comfotable long ridin'.

Knot My President!
Jan 10, 2005

Don't forget stretching and ibuprofen!

Wootcannon
Jan 23, 2010

HAIL SATAN, PRINCE OF LIES

ReelBigLizard posted:

poo poo, and I thought I was hardcore for riding 9 miles through a blizzard on the KTM...

Next time I'm north of Hadrian's wall we should grab a beer.

Well you'll win on that one, I'm a total lightweight!

Pokey Araya
Jan 1, 2007
This would BE a BETTER ARTICLE without all the loving stupid RANDOM all caps words, but IT made ME THINK about HOW I WAS riding on my BIKE.

Its specifically for a BMW K1200, but some good thoughts on riding in GENERAL!

http://bmwsporttouring.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2744

Wootcannon
Jan 23, 2010

HAIL SATAN, PRINCE OF LIES

Pokey Araya posted:

This would BE a BETTER ARTICLE without all the loving stupid RANDOM all caps words, but IT made ME THINK about HOW I WAS riding on my BIKE.

Its specifically for a BMW K1200, but some good thoughts on riding in GENERAL!

http://bmwsporttouring.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2744

Good god, it's the midlife-crisis Timecube.

Angryboot
Oct 23, 2005

Grimey Drawer
I don't agree with his borderline racist write up at all. Sportbikes induce weight on bars because they sit forward? Sure, if you're a god drat newb who doesn't know how to balance yourself or use your torso to lean on the tank and take weight off of the bars so you can actually turn. People in Japan are used to leaning forward because they sit on their knees? No. Your lower back gets tired way quicker that way. If anything I sit up more straight when I'm seated that way. Good job lumping all the Asians together in the forward-leaning bunch. loving tard.

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
Haha I'm kinda sad I stopped reading it before the "asians are used to leaning forward" part. Guess I'll read the whole thing.

Angryboot
Oct 23, 2005

Grimey Drawer
Dude it's really stupid. He thought that sportbikes are designed for you to transfer your body weight to the handlebars so that you have less weight on your rear end, this way you can slide your rear end to help you turn. Nevermind that you have pegs and a pair of legs that are attached to your rear end to I dunno, lift your rear end up when you need to move.

I'd like to see him trying to turn after loading up his front suspension with his body weight and going all straight elbows and see how far he gets.

ReelBigLizard
Feb 27, 2003

Fallen Rib

Wootcannon posted:

Good god, it's the midlife-crisis Timecube.

WE HAVE BEEN EDUCATED STUPID

THE FOUR CORNERED BIKE HAS 6 SIDES (SIX) IN ONE ROTATION

THE ASIAN RIDER SITS WITH HIS MAIN LEGS UNDERNEATH THE rear end, THIS IS CLEARLY AGAINST NATURE.

Angryboot
Oct 23, 2005

Grimey Drawer
That's a new stunting move right there. The samurai ride. +1 if done on a Ninja zx6.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
I found myself at a Honda dealer again today and noticed a couple of scooters had a little metal trigger thing an inch or so in front of the clutch back brake lever. Any idea what that's for?

(I'd have asked but that would involve talking to someone who sells Hondas for a living and I'd rather interact with a fluffer for necrophilia porn)

Pokey Araya
Jan 1, 2007

Angryboot posted:

Dude it's really stupid. He thought that sportbikes are designed for you to transfer your body weight to the handlebars so that you have less weight on your rear end, this way you can slide your rear end to help you turn. Nevermind that you have pegs and a pair of legs that are attached to your rear end to I dunno, lift your rear end up when you need to move.

I'd like to see him trying to turn after loading up his front suspension with his body weight and going all straight elbows and see how far he gets.

I don't know anybody that "leans on the tank" to take weight off of the handle bars. The only time I lean on the tank is after 20+ miles of super slab. Also I didn't say, "This guy is a genius! Look at his FACTS about riding!" I prefaced it by saying, It made me think more about how I was riding, in general.

If you actually read, and comprehended what he wrote, instead of coming back here to quickly write a response, you might of gotten to this part...( I took out the stupid all caps.)

The keynotes to "the" Riding Position are:

Bend at the hips, not waist
Maintain a slight arch to the back, not allowing it ever to "curve"
Move the butt aft so the weight is over your feet.
Apply pressure to the feet, using the thigh muscles, so you are sitting "lightly"
elbows bent, now drop the hands to the bars.

One needs to move fore and aft on the seat to make all those things happen. Except for the Hip Bend, they are not absolutes, but rather ranges. Move about until you can see all of them are happening to some extent -- and NO weight is being placed on the handlebars.

Pokey Araya fucked around with this message at 22:52 on May 7, 2013

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I found myself at a Honda dealer again today and noticed a couple of scooters had a little metal trigger thing an inch or so in front of the clutch back brake lever. Any idea what that's for?

(I'd have asked but that would involve talking to someone who sells Hondas for a living and I'd rather interact with a fluffer for necrophilia porn)

If I'm picturing properly what you describe, that's probably the flash-to-pass switch.

its all nice on rice
Nov 12, 2006

Sweet, Salty Goodness.



Buglord

Lothire posted:

I think I saw that lodge! My only stop on the way to was at a Safeway in Chehalis, then into Portland from there. I was surprised my bike didn't need to go into reserves at all during the trip.

Suffice to say I'll be taking some time before I do anything like that again! I like the engine guard idea for my legs as those started to ache the most, I'll have to keep that in mind when shopping for some additions for the bike. A different seat is something I'm definitely after as well. My grip problems are a bit all over the place. I do have a death grip at times, but I don't have a windshield either and I find I'm fighting a lot of wind resistance, which a shield would probably cut down on I'm guessing. My gloves are very thick too and take some effort to work around the throttle, I really need to buy a thinner pair for the warmer weather we're getting.

Nice to hear about another Everett goon. :) I'd say to keep an eye out for me but I'm your standard mostly-in-black-with-some-reflection type.

My friend rides a 750 Phantom and often goes on long rides. He rode all the way from Port Orchard to LA last year on the thing. He talks about having a death grip to hold himself up as well. One thing you might look at is a rider sissy bar. Not sure what your budget is, but a lot of aftermarket cruiser seats come with/setup for backrests. That would probably move some of the pressure off of your hands and let you relax in the saddle a bit more.

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.

Angryboot posted:

I'd like to see him trying to turn after loading up his front suspension with his body weight and going all straight elbows and see how far he gets.

Well the K1200 does have that goofy Duolever front end to specifically keep weight transfer from mattering

Baller Witness Bro
Nov 16, 2006

Hey FedEx, how dare you deliver something before your "delivered by" time.
I can't see these tips being helpful. Not much leaning involved in traveling your BMW from cafe to cafe on the interstates. Even if there is a turn coming up your buddy will just flip down his bitchin half-face helmet and use the expensive comms system to let you know there's something nasty coming.

Angryboot
Oct 23, 2005

Grimey Drawer

Pokey Araya posted:

I don't know anybody that "leans on the tank" to take weight off of the handle bars. The only time I lean on the tank is after 20+ miles of super slab. Also I didn't say, "This guy is a genius! Look at his FACTS about riding!" I prefaced it by saying, It made me think more about how I was riding, in general.

If you actually read, and comprehended what he wrote, instead of coming back here to quickly write a response, you might of gotten to this part...( I took out the stupid all caps.)

The keynotes to "the" Riding Position are:

Bend at the hips, not waist
Maintain a slight arch to the back, not allowing it ever to "curve"
Move the butt aft so the weight is over your feet.
Apply pressure to the feet, using the thigh muscles, so you are sitting "lightly"
elbows bent, now drop the hands to the bars.

One needs to move fore and aft on the seat to make all those things happen. Except for the Hip Bend, they are not absolutes, but rather ranges. Move about until you can see all of them are happening to some extent -- and NO weight is being placed on the handlebars.

You're getting defensive pretty quickly like I just kicked your dog or something and you're assuming I didn't read the rest of it. Notice how I didn't bother addressing the second half of what he posted? Because there's nothing to comment on. The first part of his post was full of errors and is stupid as hell, that deserved a note. The rest of it I don't really have a problem with it, hence I didn't note.

I didn't say anything about hey look at this dumb rear end why's he linking this whoa. Chill.

Leaning/resting your body weight against the tank is hardly that rare of a thing to do either. I'm on the tank if I'm just chillin on the freeway for more than 10 minutes and the road's wide open.

ThatCguy
Jan 19, 2008

Pokey Araya posted:



The keynotes to "the" Riding Position are:

Bend at the hips, not waist
Maintain a slight arch to the back, not allowing it ever to "curve"
Move the butt aft so the weight is over your feet.
Apply pressure to the feet, using the thigh muscles, so you are sitting "lightly"
elbows bent, now drop the hands to the bars.

One needs to move fore and aft on the seat to make all those things happen. Except for the Hip Bend, they are not absolutes, but rather ranges. Move about until you can see all of them are happening to some extent -- and NO weight is being placed on the handlebars.

So..am I missing something? Is this supposed to be some sort of "advanced" or special technique?

I mean, I started riding long before reading books, taking an MSF or anything like that, but this has pretty much always been how I've ridden anything with a "sport" position. Balls of the feet on the pegs, weight supported through the legs, rear end moving in the seat, usually further back, and practically no weight on the arms. Seems pretty natural to me, how exactly do the rest of you guys ride?

Pokey Araya
Jan 1, 2007

ThatCguy posted:

So..am I missing something? Is this supposed to be some sort of "advanced" or special technique?

I mean, I started riding long before reading books, taking an MSF or anything like that, but this has pretty much always been how I've ridden anything with a "sport" position. Balls of the feet on the pegs, weight supported through the legs, rear end moving in the seat, usually further back, and practically no weight on the arms. Seems pretty natural to me, how exactly do the rest of you guys ride?

I think its pretty standard, some people were talking about long riding fatigue (granted it was a cruiser) and I thought some people might get something out of it. I just find most of the time when new riders come and post, "My wrists are killing me after 30 mins, my back hurts, ect" We all end up telling them not to death grip, grip the tank with your legs, sit up.

Admittedly in hindsight it was a stupid idea to post that, I should of edited the useful parts and left the rest of the poo poo out.

Angryboot posted:

You're getting defensive pretty quickly like I just kicked your dog or something and you're assuming I didn't read the rest of it.

You're right, I don't know why I was being so snippy, I just needed to go for a ride and I feel better now.

Angryboot
Oct 23, 2005

Grimey Drawer
All good, bro. I get snippy when I'm cooped up in the office too. Just came back from a soothing 15 mile ride and all is good.

Gay Nudist Dad
Dec 12, 2006

asshole on a scooter

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I found myself at a Honda dealer again today and noticed a couple of scooters had a little metal trigger thing an inch or so in front of the clutch back brake lever. Any idea what that's for?

(I'd have asked but that would involve talking to someone who sells Hondas for a living and I'd rather interact with a fluffer for necrophilia porn)

Parking brake, basically. Pull the lever, flip that trigger/switch thing, and it holds the lever pulled.

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000

JP Money posted:

I can't see these tips being helpful. Not much leaning involved in traveling your BMW from cafe to cafe on the interstates. Even if there is a turn coming up your buddy will just flip down his bitchin half-face helmet and use the expensive comms system to let you know there's something nasty coming.

As a BMW owner , I can confirm this is what riding BMWs is like. Except you also have a Zumo to warn you of impending turns, which you will look through with your chin up while going outside-inside-outside within your lane.

theperminator
Sep 16, 2009

by Smythe
Fun Shoe

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

As a BMW owner , I can confirm this is what riding BMWs is like. Except you also have a Zumo to warn you of impending turns, which you will look through with your chin up while going outside-inside-outside within your lane.

Real BMW owners only buy the BMW Motorrad Navigator 4

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Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.
Real BMW owners have it built into the dash

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