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mycophobia posted:I remember being in awe of Spirits Within when it came out but I don't really remember anything about it now. A good movie, still...? Yeah, it's still got better 3D animation than contemporary billion dollar blockbusters and was way ahead of the "all live action morphing into CGI" curve, and it's got cool music
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Shuffle or Boogie is such a great earworm of a song. I also really liked a lot of the rest of the Final Fantasy 8 soundtrack.
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The Castlevania 2 redacted hack takes it from a 5/10 game to an 8/10. I cannot imagine how the series continued if people first played it on Disk System where you have to change disks between towns and if you get knocked back into town well gently caress you, player.
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Elliotw2 posted:The Xbox One pad is probably the best feeling controller right now, and for 2d games it has the massive advantage of a switched dpad, which only the Switch joycons can compete with. Yeah, I really like that D-pad. Nice and clicky. Honestly with its other faults (unreliable bumpers, bad stick drift) I still kept it around because you don't need those to play platformers, generally. Now the D-pad is being lovely and I can't even reliably crouch in Mario Land 2 and to move right I have to really press hard on it. I'm actually surprised to hear that the DS4 is kind of lackluster. The best PC controller I ever had was a DualSock 2 connected with a $3 USB adapter. Loved that thing to death.
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I think FF8 gets alot of hate because it's mechanics were a radical departure from the usual FF experience, it really didn't feel like a FF game at times. The emo teen love story probably didn't help either. For example? Leveling up in other FF games, your guys get stronger and learn new abilities. Level up in FF8? Does jack all and instead makes the monsters stronger like in a Bethesda game. Learning magic and abilities in other FF games? Either through leveling up, jobs, or slotted gems of some kind. In FF8 you have to suck the magic out of enemies using a very tedious process and it's what summons your guys are equipped with that determines their abilities. Getting new gear in other FF games? Usually bought or found. In FF8? Haha gently caress you go hunt down some rare and pain in the rear end to find crafting materials. Wanna earn money in other FF games, easy just kill some monsters. In FF8? Haha gently caress you again you have to wait for a paycheck and you gotta 100% a stupid test to get paid more. The game really hates level grinding in general, come to think of it, and don't even get me started on the card game....Of course once you understood FF8's oddball Junction system it was real easy to break the game over your knee. I am so glad Square came to their senses and made FF9 more traditional in terms of gameplay. At least FF8's music was kickass and the modern setting was a neat departure, I guess. 
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Just logged onto Steam for the first time in a while, and apparently the Secret of Mana remake will be getting a PC version. For those of us who don't buy consoles anymore, that's a welcome sight. e: (if the port doesn't suck) http://store.steampowered.com/app/637670/Secret_of_Mana/ Ofecks fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Aug 27, 2017 |
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Aug 27, 2017 20:33
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The remake just looks so unappealing to me. Give me 2D sprite graphics anyday over "modern" anime-style 3D.
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The Secret of Mana remake really looks like it began as a Vita/mobile game and got bumped up to Vita/PS4/Steam. I love that shot of them riding Flammie, though.
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Just give me Secret of Mana Collection on Switch, dammit. 
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Kid Fenris posted:The Secret of Mana remake really looks like it began as a Vita/mobile game and got bumped up to Vita/PS4/Steam. It literally is that since its the same engine as the previous Vita/Mobile remake.
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TeaJay posted:The remake just looks so unappealing to me. Give me 2D sprite graphics anyday over "modern" anime-style 3D. I'd rather the only ok 3D vs whatever's going on with the Final Fantasy 5 and 6 they have on Steam.
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vkeios posted:btw Ehrgeiz has a fun as hell roguelike mode. It loving sucks dude, that game is garbage to look at or play
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Sand Dan posted:I'd rather the only ok 3D vs whatever's going on with the Final Fantasy 5 and 6 they have on Steam. I'm more worried about voice acting for every major line in Secret of Mana.
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I hope they at least get someone like Brian Blessed to voice Santa Claus.
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Elliotw2 posted:Just buy another Xbone pad, try to get the most recent revision that comes in a white box since it did fix some of these issues and it has bluetooth support on Windows 10 if you don't already have the older wireless adapter. I honestly think the DS4 is a less quality and considerably less nice and comfortable controller than the Xbone pad, and for your uses has a worse dpad. My biggest issue with the DS4 when it comes to retro gaming use: That touchpad and the buttons on its side are considerably more awkward then having nice and comfortable Start and Select replacements like you have on the Xbone or 360 controllers. That arrangement the DS4 has does work very well for certain newer games, and also has the unintended benefit on PC that you can use it to make some very awkward "you need to use the mouse and keyboard with three hands at once" control layouts on some 90s games work out a lot better. (Prime example are many FPS-styled adventure games that also wanted you to use the mouse to move around onscreen menus and such during gameplay, using the keyboard entirely for moving your view around in the gameworld). But it's just not fun for a lot of retro games.
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GutBomb posted:I got an NES Max today ... What a great controller. 
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vkeios posted:yeah, I should really give Mystic Quest the credit it deserves. The music is pretty good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32ZUO60kxlg
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Mak0rz posted:Our X-bone controller that was purchased for PC gaming is dying. Finally. It' started out just fine but is a launch-age one so it's flimsy and unresponsive and the sticks drift and is generally a piece of poo poo that gets worse each day. Though I'm not sure if new ones are any better. The XB1 controllers have had 4 subtle revisions, which you can tell apart externally if you know what to look for. The first ones didn't have a proper 3.5mm audio jack on the bottom, as well as the bad bumpers like you said. It can be firmware updated for some tiny internal changes, but said fw update can only be done via USB cable. Can be done from a PC but only if it's using Windows 10. The second ones had much better bumpers as well as a 3.5mm audio jack on the bottom, and can be fw updated wirelessly. The third ones added actual Bluetooth support so you can pair one (and I think only one) to a Windows PC or other BT device. You can tell them apart from the 2nd gen controllers by the part of the controller surrounding the Xbox Logo button, which will be the same color and integrated with the body of the controller, whereas with the 2nd gen controllers it's always black and integrated with the top of the controller. Here's a pic of gen 1/2 (top) and 3/4 (bottom).  The fourth ones are the same as 3rd gen, but they have a bit of a more textured back for finger grippiness. It's possible there are some other extremely subtle changes like them being made less prone to Wifi interference but there's a lot of hearsay about that. The Elite Controllers I think are 2nd gen controllers without Bluetooth, I don't believe they ever made Elite controllers which support Bluetooth. In all cases the mechanisms for the sticks apparently remain unchanged (made of plastic) including in the Elite controllers so it's believed that stick drift is always an eventual risk regardless of which generation/version you get. Regardless of which generation you have you can use them on a Windows PC with a wireless adapter, and can have up to 8 controllers paired. No, I have no idea what games on PC support 8 players locally. All of this being said, if you want a "retro"-friendly Xbox controller, Hori made an Xbox fightpad, but obviously you lose analog sticks. 
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Kid Fenris posted:I'm more worried about voice acting for every major line in Secret of Mana. lol. oh nooo
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univbee posted:Regardless of which generation you have you can use them on a Windows PC with a wireless adapter, and can have up to 8 controllers paired. No, I have no idea what games on PC support 8 players locally. gang beasts my man
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Kid Fenris posted:The Secret of Mana remake really looks like it began as a Vita/mobile game and got bumped up to Vita/PS4/Steam. I like the graphical style, I'm a sucker for "low poly" and the Mega Man Legends anime textures. But because Square is doing one-for-one remakes you get scenes that look outright goofy like the fight with Spiky which looks like a huge courtyard on a tiny 4:3 screen but is comically small in 3D.
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univbee posted:The Elite Controllers I think are 2nd gen controllers without Bluetooth, I don't believe they ever made Elite controllers which support Bluetooth. That's correct and it pissed everyone off, of course. Still, it's a great controller.
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univbee posted:helpful stuff The Elite controller looks cool, but I'll probably go with just a newer standard controller considering what you said. My computer has Bluetooth. What's up with that D-pad and those extra triggers underneath on the Elite anyway? 
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Mak0rz posted:The Elite controller looks cool, but I'll probably go with just a newer standard controller considering what you said. My computer has Bluetooth. What's up with that D-pad and those extra triggers underneath? The d-pad can be switched out with a standard cross shaped d-pad. The triggers can be configured as a secondary input for the AXYB buttons. It's for MLG types so they can hit the face buttons without having to take their thumb off the left thumbstick because every second counts when your scoring  360 noscopes for your dubstep infused kill reel.
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Wamdoodle posted:The d-pad can be switched out with a standard cross shaped d-pad. The triggers can be configured as a secondary input for the AXYB buttons. It's for MLG types so they can hit the face buttons without having to take their thumb off the left thumbstick because every second counts when your scoring drat, that's actually pretty cool! Not really something I need though so I'll just get a standard. What's the 1-2 switch in the center for?
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Mak0rz posted:The Elite controller looks cool, but I'll probably go with just a newer standard controller considering what you said. My computer has Bluetooth. That's a thing you can swap onto the d-pad attachment point that is more suitable for how certain kinds of games use the d-pad for inputs. It's actually a raised bit in the center and then beveled bits on the side, you can kinda "roll" across it between inputs. Doesn't work for all games really, but that''s part of the point of why you can swap things around. Those trigger paddles are meant to be used for remapping inputs from elsewhere on the controller to be more comfortable, if you want. One of the big things people do is they just use two paddles, one on each grip, and remap them to the button input from pressing down the left and right analog sticks - for some kinds of games that makes using L3/R3 commands a lot nicer. Mak0rz posted:What's the 1-2 switch in the center for? Basically all the controls on the controller are remappable, including with the paddle triggers you add on. You can store 2 custom configurations at once if you say, have one set of maps that works good for FPS games and one that works good for others.
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I never knew why that controller cost so much, and I thought that d-pad... thing was horrible. I never knew it could be swapped, and I never knew about the configurable paddles on the back, and now that controller is much more tempting...
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... I quoted the next guy, not edited my post but it put my quote here instead and gently caress writing that again. It's a good controller.
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^^^ Oooh, neat. That really does sound tempting. If anyone enjoys Blades of Steel, pick up Super Blood Hockey on Steam. Holy poo poo it's amazing. It's a nice happy medium between Ice Hockey [different player "classes"] and Blades of Steel [violence, general hilarious-ness]. If there's Blades of Steel voice pack DLC at some point, I would buy it immediately.
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Code Jockey posted:^^^ Oooh, neat. That really does sound tempting. Warning: the wireless receiver only works on windows and the protocol is encrypted so there's little hope of having it work on Linux or Mac. It works great wired on those platforms though.
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Code Jockey posted:I never knew why that controller cost so much, and I thought that d-pad... thing was horrible. I never knew it could be swapped, and I never knew about the configurable paddles on the back, and now that controller is much more tempting... I mean honestly I'd still say it's overpriced as it is, but if you could get it for say 80 or 90 bucks it wouldn't be a bad buy.
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al-azad posted:The Castlevania 2 redacted hack takes it from a 5/10 game to an 8/10. I cannot imagine how the series continued if people first played it on Disk System where you have to change disks between towns and if you get knocked back into town well gently caress you, player. Yeah, with the Redacted hack fixes, I actually would put it ahead of Zelda 2
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Gradius Gaiden is twenty years old today. I would kill to have that ported to the PS4, but I might as well wish for things like stable employment and benefits as well since neither are going to happen.
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Star Man posted:Gradius Gaiden is twenty years old today. Speaking of which, the Windjammers port is out on PS4 in a few days, my message to the developers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK0jVU8UWp8
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They did a beta for it and I heard it was not promising, unfortunately. Don't hold your breath.
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Mak0rz posted:I'm actually surprised to hear that the DS4 is kind of lackluster. The best PC controller I ever had was a DualSock 2 connected with a $3 USB adapter. Loved that thing to death. It...isn't? I use 3 DS4s with my PC and haven't had issues with any of them. You don't even need a wrapper for most modern games, like Fallout 4 has native support. Steam even has support in a similar way to it's Steam Controller. I can't speak to people's personal preference in controller feel, but saying PS4 controllers are low quality and don't work well is 100% hyperbole.
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https://www.twitch.tv/shoutfactorytv Twitch is doing a starcade marathon this week for the next 6 days
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My first DS4 broke but it was because I spilled beer all over it
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