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Yeah if you wanna get an idea of what the rest of part 1 is gonna be like, go check the Yu-Gi-Oh wikia. There's some episode previews for 47-50 up and there's a few bombs dropped in there.
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I'm kind of enjoying how the Destiny Heroes come off as really lame knockoffs, like the kind you'd find in some generic comic. Names like Captain Tenacious and Diamond Dude suit Aster perfectly.
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Mar 11, 2015 08:52
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Rigged Death Trap posted:^^Well poo poo. Youre right. When xyz monsters are used as xyz materials to summon a new monster, the xyz materials of the material monster are detached before the summon occurs.
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Mar 11, 2015 15:43
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I started watching the newest ygo show (having only watched original and gx before) and it's pretty alright, except for the opening theme, which is crap, and the design of the odd eyes dragon, which might just be the ugliest dragon I've ever seen. Also action duels are retarded.
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Mar 11, 2015 15:49
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Slur posted:When xyz monsters are used as xyz materials to summon a new monster, the xyz materials of the material monster are detached before the summon occurs. Literally every effect which lets you stack Xyz on other Xyz has kept the materials. Check any Rank-Up-Magic or Number C39. Where are you getting this?
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Mar 11, 2015 16:22
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Dabir posted:Literally every effect which lets you stack Xyz on other Xyz has kept the materials. Check any Rank-Up-Magic or Number C39. Where are you getting this? While that is true it is also true that every effect which has made an XYZ monster a material of another XYZ monster, except by ranking up, has discarded the materials.
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Mar 11, 2015 16:31
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Xoidanor posted:While that is true it is also true that every effect which has made an XYZ monster a material of another XYZ monster, except by ranking up, has discarded the materials. If true then its definitely the exception rather than the rule. Utopia ray, constellar M7, dark matter dragon...
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Mar 11, 2015 17:26
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Dabir posted:Literally every effect which lets you stack Xyz on other Xyz has kept the materials. Check any Rank-Up-Magic or Number C39. Where are you getting this? 1. There are clauses in those card texts which allow the previous materials to remain attached as xyz materials. 2. Summoning Number F0: Future Hope requires 2 xyz monsters as materials. There is no such clause on the card which allows the xyz materials to stay. Therefore, it is summoned to the field with 2 xyz materials (the monsters which were used).
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K. Flaps posted:I started watching the newest ygo show (having only watched original and gx before) and it's pretty alright, except for the opening theme, which is crap, and the design of the odd eyes dragon, which might just be the ugliest dragon I've ever seen. Also action duels are retarded. Action duels were a brilliant way to bring to show back to its roots, where no one, including the audience and the characters that invented the game, knows the rules of the game.
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Mar 11, 2015 17:46
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Utopia ray, constellar M7, dark matter dragon... Slur posted:2. Summoning Number F0: Future Hope requires 2 xyz monsters as materials. There is no such clause on the card which allows the xyz materials to stay. Therefore, it is summoned to the field with 2 xyz materials (the monsters which were used).
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I don't know if this adds to the argument or not, but when Yuya Xyz Summons Odd-Eyes Rebellion Dragon, it has two Xyz Materials (Odd-Eyes and Dark Rebellion). By that time, Dark Rebellion still had both of its Xyz Materials, so they must've been sent to the graveyard upon Xyz Summoning.
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Mar 11, 2015 19:32
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AnacondaHL posted:Action duels were a brilliant way to bring to show back to its roots, where no one, including the audience and the characters that invented the game, knows the rules of the game. Yeah but Stone Rock Soldier Man attacking the moonis insanely sick, and yugioh guy falling into custard and magically getting a "you cant touch me card" is lame.
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Dexie posted:These are examples of Chaos Xyz/Rank-Up summoning... Well, if when Future Hope is Xyz summoned it doesn't keep its material's overlay units, why would Odd Eyes Rebellion Dragon be different? OERD is also using an Xyz monster as material, so Future Hope is no longer alone  Also: Blaze Dragon posted:I don't know if this adds to the argument or not, but when Yuya Xyz Summons Odd-Eyes Rebellion Dragon, it has two Xyz Materials (Odd-Eyes and Dark Rebellion). By that time, Dark Rebellion still had both of its Xyz Materials, so they must've been sent to the graveyard upon Xyz Summoning.
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Silento posted:Well, if when Future Hope is Xyz summoned it doesn't keep its material's overlay units, why would Odd Eyes Rebellion Dragon be different? OERD is also using an Xyz monster as material, so Future Hope is no longer alone I'm not counting Odd-Eyes Rebellion because it only exists in the anime, and until we get it's reveal for the actual game, we don't know how it's going to work.
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Mar 11, 2015 21:20
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Dexie posted:I'm not counting Odd-Eyes Rebellion because it only exists in the anime, and until we get it's reveal for the actual game, we don't know how it's going to work. You might want to check a couple of pages back, because that card seems to have already had an official release, or at least it has been spoilered.
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Mar 11, 2015 21:50
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paradoxGentleman posted:You might want to check a couple of pages back, because that card seems to have already had an official release, or at least it has been spoilered. Nope. Sometimes we get high-quality pictures of anime cards like that. I guess they might come from Konami's Japanese twitter or Japanese anime sites? It's yet to be announced for the actual game (though it's obvious it'll be the cover card for the next set, Clash of Rebellion), and I'm guessing it's going to have a drastically changed effect when that happens.
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Mar 11, 2015 21:59
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Sometimes the altered changes confuse me. Take Beast eyes for instance, why don't you use Polymerization to make it? It's a fusion monster, but for whatever reason you don't have to actually do anything other than have two monsters. For that matter, why doesn't it even need Odd Eyes to make it? It makes Trump Witch's whole thing kind of useless in the context of the show.
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Mar 11, 2015 22:31
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Momomo posted:Sometimes the altered changes confuse me. Take Beast eyes for instance, why don't you use Polymerization to make it? It's a fusion monster, but for whatever reason you don't have to actually do anything other than have two monsters. For that matter, why doesn't it even need Odd Eyes to make it? It makes Trump Witch's whole thing kind of useless in the context of the show. If you just tribute summon beast-eyes you can't use his affect since he won't have a fusion material. Which is the incentive for fusing him legitimately.
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I think I misunderstood the card's effect. It says:quote:Must be Fusion Summoned, or Special Summoned (from your Extra Deck) by Tributing the above cards you control (you do not use "Polymerization"), and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. I thought this was saying "You can't use Polymerization to fuse this, it's always tributed"
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Momomo posted:I think I misunderstood the card's effect. It says: It's saying you CAN use Polymerization or Dragon's Mirror or any other appropriate Fusion card to summon it, BUT if the materials are both on your field, then you can Fusion summon it by Tributing them instead of using a Fusion card.
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Mar 11, 2015 22:50
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"Must be fusion summoned," meaning you can fusion it the standard ways, "OR special summoned by..." meaning you can do it that way too.
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Mar 11, 2015 22:51
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Basically, it prevents you from using stuff like Magical Scientist on it, since those special summon from the fusion deck, but you can still do standard fusion summons.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:If you just tribute summon beast-eyes you can't use his affect since he won't have a fusion material. Which is the incentive for fusing him legitimately. Wait what? This wasn't a thing when I tried Beast-eyes like 2 months back in devpro.
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Xoidanor posted:Wait what? This wasn't a thing when I tried Beast-eyes like 2 months back in devpro. Oh, that's just what I thought from reading the card description. I was just thinking that if he was only tribute summoned then the beast type monster used wouldn't really count as a fusion material. Might've been wrong though.
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I believe Beast-Eyes similarly to chimeratech fortress is just treated like another variant of contact fusion.
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Xoidanor posted:I believe Beast-Eyes similarly to chimeratech fortress is just treated like another variant of contact fusion. This is correct.
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Dexie posted:...and this is actually using 2 Xyz monsters as material. It's two different things, and as far as I can remember, Future Hope is the only card that's like that. Definitely an exception, and not the rule. Considering Future Hope is the only card of its kind, and it is the only card without the clause text, I don't think it is the exception so much as it is 'the rule never put into action'.
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Every time an Xyz monster gained the materials of the card it was overlayed on to it, it was because of a card effect, the effect of the card being summoned, the effect of the Rank Up Magic, etc. etc. If you gave an Xyz monster a level and used it as Xyz material, its materials would go to the graveyard because there's no effect keeping them attached.
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Arc-V dub starts tomorrow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t35ge4djX6w In Germany
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Arc-V dub starts tomorrow aww why isnt it arc funf
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...Arc-Five? I have been pronouncing it Arc-V in my idea this entire time. edit: which is doubly stupid, since in the previews it's always called Arc-Five. paradoxGentleman fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Apr 16, 2015 |
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Momomo posted:I'm kind of enjoying how the Destiny Heroes come off as really lame knockoffs, like the kind you'd find in some generic comic. Names like Captain Tenacious and Diamond Dude suit Aster perfectly. This is why Aster is the second-best character in GX. He is however much worse in the original because in the original he's just a tool but in the dub he is like the tool version of Jaden where he's constantly calling people "dude" and "bro" and stuff, he rules.
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The best gx guy is bastion, who had sex with a trading card amazon.
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http://ygorganization.com/aflameaterisfine/ The time of the mage is at hand.
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I can't help but notice that if you happen to have two Flame Eaters in your hand and you take effect damage, nothing is stopping you from trigger them one after the other; one in response to the effect and one in response to the first Flame Eater's effect. All a rank-4 spammer need is a way to damage themselves reliably and they'll have yet another way to access their Castiel and Insect Knight and whatnot.
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paradoxGentleman posted:...Arc-Five? I have been pronouncing it Arc-V in my idea this entire time. 1) It's the fifth series in the Yu-Gi-Oh franchise. 2) The shape of a pendulum's arc makes a stylized V, similar to the one in the title. 3) Artic + Uno, Zap + Dos, Molt + Tres 4) Mozart Is Still Alive Dexie posted:http://ygorganization.com/aflameaterisfine/ Oh that Flame Eater effect is just cheeky as poo poo. MJeff fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Mar 12, 2015 |
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VJeff posted:Oh that Flame Eater effect is just cheeky as poo poo.
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It's okay since it's searchable, not that amazing. However, I'm guessing we'll be seeing more in the next pack whenever Dennis gets around to using that polymerisation card.
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Well the Banish clause would make pulling off a vanishing Lanius style summon chain less desirable. Which locks you into XYZing with whatever flame eaters you summon if Entermages dont have return from Banishment effects. (iirc 'banished on leaving the field' doesnt apply to used Xyz materials) (Or do they?)
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Well the Banish clause would make pulling off a vanishing Lanius style summon chain less desirable. Which locks you into XYZing with whatever flame eaters you summon if Entermages dont have return from Banishment effects. They don't. The Flame Eaters will go to the graveyard if detached as Xyz materials.
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