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Putty
Mar 21, 2013

HOOKED ON THE BROTHERS
1 hr in and i already see a giant airplane/zepplin thing oin the sky which makes me assume Beedle has become the technological tyrant of this cold world

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happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
I heard its a $350 flash game.

happyhippy fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Mar 3, 2017

Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

Philthy posted:

Unlike some diehard “PC or nothing” enthusiasts, I don’t harbor any innate hatred toward consoles. Heck, my earliest gaming memory is of playing Super Mario Bros. until midnight, after my dad came home with a Nintendo tucked under his arm when I was five. I enjoyed the Xbox 360 so much that I burned through five of them. (Stupid Red Ring of Death and disc read errors.) And sometimes—in my darkest hours, when I’ve been battling borked drivers or broken PC ports—the streamlined allure of consoles still whispers to me.

“Come, friend,” it hisses in my ear. “Embrace the dark side! We have sweets, and simplicity, and you’ll never have to worry about hardware upgrades.” And I have to admit, the idea sounds damned appealing in those bleak times.

But then I boot up XCOM 2 or one of PCWorld’s top 10 PC games of 2015—few of which made it to consoles—and that temptation instantly dissipates. Sure, consoles have their strong points, but PC gaming offers so much more. How do I love thee, PC gaming? Let me count the ways.

1. Cheap games

Not to be that guy, but I’m a family man on a budget. The less cash I have to shell out for games, the better. And PC games are far cheaper than console games, for a fine reason: Consoles are walled gardens, while game stores on the PC have to compete for your money.

The result? Origin’s wonderful “On the House” freebie program, and delectable Humble Bundles, and Green Man Gaming’s perpetual 20 percent off vouchers, and those glorious, glorious Steam sales. On the PC, publishers regularly give away superb older games to drum up interest in imminent sequels, as we saw Need for Speed, SOMA, Dragon Age, and Sniper Elite’s developers do recently. It’s great!

And before you console enthusiasts say you get free games every month, stop. You don’t. You get games with your monthly PlayStation Plus and Xbox Live subscriptions, which isn’t the same thing at all. Speaking of which…

2. You don’t have to pay to play multiplayer games on PCs

Yep, that about sums it up. Yay for competition!

3. More types of games

You’ll also find a wider variety of game types on PCs compared to consoles. Not to keep beating the same drum, but the PC’s open nature helps here, as the comparative ease with which developers can whip up a game has led to an absolute explosion of indie titles on the platform. (Steam added roughly eight new games per day in the first seven months of 2015, PC Gamer reports.)

Don’t worry about missing out on big games, either. The days of widespread console exclusives are over. Very few of the triple-A games released lock themselves to consoles now that development costs are so high and all three big consoles pack AMD hardware similar to what you’d find in a (budget) gaming PC. Not releasing a PC version of a triple-A game simply doesn’t make sense for third-party game publishers, who don’t have a stake in a particular platform’s dominance.

The superb strategy game Endless Legend is PC-exclusive, relies heavily on keyboard and mouse controls, and can frequently be found for as little as $10.
But the reasons extend beyond the ecosystem alone. Keyboards and mice offer speed, accuracy, and complexity benefits that controllers simply can’t match. There’s a reason the Counter-Strike and Civilization series exploded on PCs, but fizzled when they attempted to leap to consoles: Handling them with a controller just isn’t the same.

The inherent advantages of a keyboard and mouse have led strategy games and simulations to carve out a niche on PCs. Witness XCOM 2 and Cities: Skylines, two notable recent PC exclusives.

4. Play how you want to play

Which leads me to another beautiful aspect of PC gaming: You can play your games however you want to play them. Many PC gamers swear by the keyboard and mouse, but you can just as easily play many games with a gamepad if you’d like—sacrilege, I know, but I often do just that after typing for work all day. Or you can go really nuts and embrace dedicated peripherals like racing wheels and HOTAS setups. (Sims are another big PC niche for this very reason.)

New year, new inputs: Corsair K70, Razer DeathAdder, Steam Controller, Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas X flight stick pic.

Playing Elite Dangerous with an Oculus Rift VR headset strapped to your face and a flight stick in your hands truly feels like you’ve entered another universe, but the game features KB&M and controller support, too. PC gaming is all about choice and flexibility, and choice and flexibility are always wonderful things.

5. As real as you want it to be

That choice and flexibility extends to the hardware inside your PC and the gaming experience itself. Pricey multi-GPU rigs with cranked-to-4K resolutions and every setting maxed out snag all the headlines on Reddit—hey, tricked-out PCs are pretty darn sexy—but there’s no need to break the bank to be a PC gamer.

The Xbox One and PlayStation 4 tend to play games between 720p and 1080p resolution (which makes sense, as most TVs fall in that range) at 30 to 60 frames per second, with graphics comparable to medium-to-high settings on a PC. You can build a gaming computer that checks all those boxes for roughly $400, albeit sans the cost of Windows. Then again, Linux gaming is brighter than ever if you don’t want to splurge on an OS—or, if you compare the price of Windows to the cost of Xbox Live or PlayStation Plus, the OS pays for itself in just over a year.

Or you can go all-out on 4-way SLI graphics cards.
On the flip side of the coin, you could drop a thousand dollars on your graphics card alone if you want eye candy that’s borderline life-like, or create a gloriously monstrous multi-monitor setup, or be slightly more reasonable and build a gaming PC that falls somewhere between the extremes. Single-monitor 2560x1440 gaming at 60fps is the current PC gaming sweet spot, in my opinion, though shooting-game fans sometimes aim for a 1080p monitor capable of 120Hz to 144Hz for faster reaction times—neither of which consoles are capable of.

But that’s what’s so great about PC gaming: You can choose any hardware setup you like to fit your preferences and budget. If you want to stick to e-sports games like Dota 2, League of Legends, and Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, you can even get away with skipping a discrete graphics card in favor of one of AMD’s more powerful APU options, which integrate compute processors and Radeon graphics on a single chip.

6. Mods

You can’t play Grand Theft Auto as a demented, fire-loving version of Woody from Toy Story on your Xbox. You can’t experience the manic joy of Just Cause 2’s multiplayer mod. Nor can you enjoy all the care, love, and polish poured into the community-created Half-Life 2 update, or bask in the thousands of Skyrim tweaks available.

You can do all that and more on a PC.

Mods make a game your own, opening up ne
w adventures and/or fixing issues that developers neglect. They’re a massive part of what makes PC gaming great—and the overwhelming majority of them are free. (There’s the beauty of an open platform again.)

The Woody mod for GTA4. Don’t look into his eyes.
Don’t get me wrong: PCs aren’t necessarily better than consoles. They’re different. A lot of people just want to sit on a couch and play a game after a long day of work rather than worrying about updates for drivers or Windows. Consoles scratch that itch. Again: Choice is wonderful!

But between the cheaper games, hardware flexibility, and mods, the choice is a no-brainer for me. I can’t quit you, PC gaming, and I’d never want to—even if you do frustrate me from time to time. I love you for better and for worse.


autism.txt

Putty
Mar 21, 2013

HOOKED ON THE BROTHERS
new zelda is really fun and good so far, although if you are a hardcore hyrule nerd that wants more ocarina of time you'd best look elsewhere

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

does playing my snes emulator with a $20 gamepad i got with a giftcard count as autistic pc gaming? am i doing this right? i want to be an autistic pc gamer.

a misanthrope
Jun 21, 2010

:burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug:

Mulaney Power Move posted:

does playing my snes emulator with a $20 gamepad i got with a giftcard count as autistic pc gaming? am i doing this right? i want to be an autistic pc gamer.

no make more death threats

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




Mulaney Power Move posted:

does playing my snes emulator with a $20 gamepad i got with a giftcard count as autistic pc gaming? am i doing this right? i want to be an autistic pc gamer.

Write a 5000 word diatribe on how the emulator you use is cycle perfect and how every other SNES emulator is inferior.

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

Mulaney Power Move posted:

autistic pc gamer.

Seems redundant.

Source: Me, I play games on my pc

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames
I bought some good games for the Wii U thinking I might get a Wii U but now I'm thinking prices won't drop too much for the Wii U and I should forget about the Wii U. So, how is CEMU for emulating the Wii U? And will I miss not having the tablet that comes with the Wii U?

Wii U.

The Brown Menace
Dec 24, 2010

Now comes in all colors.


the new zelda looks really good and fun btw too bad its on a trash console with nothing else going for it

thats my lukewarm take

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

The Brown Menace posted:

the new zelda looks really good and fun btw too bad its on a trash console with nothing else going for it

thats my lukewarm take

The Wii U is good though

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Ol Cactus Dick posted:

The Wii U is good though

yeah, for me to poop on

Moon Atari
Dec 26, 2010

The switch struggling to handle a fairly graphically simple game made by the people most familiar with the hardware is a pretty big warning sign about its odds of getting anything other than nintendo first party exclusives and indies that are available everywhere. Also in Australia the price of this thing is insane. $460, not including all the peripherals that are virtually a necessity.

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


Moon Atari posted:

The switch struggling to handle a fairly graphically simple game made by the people most familiar with the hardware is a pretty big warning sign about its odds of getting anything other than nintendo first party exclusives and indies that are available everywhere. Also in Australia the price of this thing is insane. $460, not including all the peripherals that are virtually a necessity.

isnt that the case with everything related to videogames in australia though? here the Switch is slightly more expensive than a ps4 slim

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦

Exioce posted:

I bought some good games for the Wii U thinking I might get a Wii U but now I'm thinking prices won't drop too much for the Wii U and I should forget about the Wii U. So, how is CEMU for emulating the Wii U? And will I miss not having the tablet that comes with the Wii U?

Wii U.

SM3DW, Bayonetta 1/2 and WWHD justify the system and there are plenty of good cheap Wii games

For real SM3DW is the best Mario game in a very long time by leagues

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

the wii U is not meant to be your primary console, but an additional luxury console meant for only the most discerning video game players who can appreciate the finer things

Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

Heath posted:

there are plenty of good cheap Wii games

Cursed Mountain, Conduit and the regular Nintendo fare like Mario Bros and Zelda are all good. Probably forgetting a few others but the Wii had quite a few good games among all the shovelware.

Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49
I bought the game for Wii U and I play with a pro controller I already had and it saved me $400. I think the switch is a dead gay console to push Wii U software sales.

a misanthrope
Jun 21, 2010

:burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug:

Moon Atari posted:

The switch struggling to handle a fairly graphically simple game made by the people most familiar with the hardware is a pretty big warning sign about its odds of getting anything other than nintendo first party exclusives and indies that are available everywhere. Also in Australia the price of this thing is insane. $460, not including all the peripherals that are virtually a necessity.

no one cares about australians though so

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames

Heath posted:

SM3DW, Bayonetta 1/2 and WWHD justify the system and there are plenty of good cheap Wii games

For real SM3DW is the best Mario game in a very long time by leagues

I have all of these and more on the Selects range. Not that I have a 4K monitor (yet), but I read CEMU can render 4K with graphics packs. That's pretty cool and is kinda swaying me to pass on the Wii U. The only thing I'm gonna miss is the eShop Wii game ports such as Metroid Prime Trilogy, Kirby's Adventure, and Pandora's Tower. On the other hand, I do have a few eShop codes from that Humble Bundle...

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Heath posted:

SM3DW, Bayonetta 1/2 and WWHD justify the system and there are plenty of good cheap Wii games

For real SM3DW is the best Mario game in a very long time by leagues

Also Captain Toad Treasure Tracker is fun to play on the toilet if your Gamepad has the range.

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
It seem that the console is poo poo, but zelda is very good, a good launch title can move systems

Teikanmi
Dec 16, 2006

by R. Guyovich
Where is the precedent for that tho

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

Hey Hey Let's Go! 喧嘩する
大切な物を protect my balls


a bone to pick posted:

It seem that the console is poo poo, but zelda is very good, a good launch title can move systems

I think you're supposed to have more than 1 though.

Putty
Mar 21, 2013

HOOKED ON THE BROTHERS
zelda breath of the goonbeast is very good

one of it's most magnificent aspects is that it uses little to no wiiu fablet features. There's literally no nintendo gimmicks outside of aiming the bow using the gyroscope (which is optional) and apparently people are aiming better with it

a few downsides. The touchscreen does jack poo poo even though it would be good for menus and you can only display the game on one screen at a time. you can play with a pro controller using the tablet as a screen

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Teikanmi posted:

Where is the precedent for that tho

the n64

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

Exioce posted:

I have all of these and more on the Selects range. Not that I have a 4K monitor (yet), but I read CEMU can render 4K with graphics packs. That's pretty cool and is kinda swaying me to pass on the Wii U. The only thing I'm gonna miss is the eShop Wii game ports such as Metroid Prime Trilogy, Kirby's Adventure, and Pandora's Tower. On the other hand, I do have a few eShop codes from that Humble Bundle...

CEMU is a long way off from being able to play much of anything, like years.

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice





The N64 was a good system that was undermined by Nintendo's idiotic corporate decisions that alienated almost every third party developer.

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Infidel Castro posted:

The N64 was a good system that was undermined by Nintendo's idiotic corporate decisions that alienated almost every third party developer.

it was a piece of poo poo but it had mario64 so everyone wanted it

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Exioce posted:

I bought some good games for the Wii U thinking I might get a Wii U but now I'm thinking prices won't drop too much for the Wii U and I should forget about the Wii U. So, how is CEMU for emulating the Wii U? And will I miss not having the tablet that comes with the Wii U?

Wii U.

Idk it's worth having one tbh and I'd get it now while everyone is offloading theirs. There's a huge backlog to work through and I'm gonna keep mine for the next long while for couch co-op stuff

You need the gamepad to adjust system settings and initially set up the console so yeah it's kind of required

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

Hey Hey Let's Go! 喧嘩する
大切な物を protect my balls


a bone to pick posted:

it was a piece of poo poo but it had mario64 so everyone wanted it

It also had Goldeneye, which is the best james bond game ever made.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

eric posted:

You switch directions and buy a PS4.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

Infidel Castro posted:

The N64 was a good system that was undermined by Nintendo's idiotic corporate decisions that alienated almost every third party developer.

Lol yeah cartridges in the age of cd roms how amazing

Bad Llama
Jan 2, 2007
pwnerer
They should port that Zelda game over to a real console

Teikanmi
Dec 16, 2006

by R. Guyovich

Had the best graphics and arguably the best games of that gen tho

Irradiation
Sep 14, 2005

I understand your frustration.
Yes thank god for the PSX using CDs so 90% of the disc space could be taken up by lovely FMV.

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

Teikanmi posted:

Had the best graphics and arguably the best games of that gen tho

Oh yeah, I liked playing games that looked like there was a fine layer of petroleum jelly on my screen

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Teikanmi posted:

Had the best graphics and arguably the best games of that gen tho

wipe the nostalgia off those rose-tinted goggles

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Handle with Caution
Nap Ghost
I'm thinking about buying a switch cause the new zelda looks pretty good

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Alan_Shore
Dec 2, 2004

Sega Saturn was the best system of that generation but I was the only person to have one and I just feel so sorry that everyone missed out on the best arcade games and RPGs that's all

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