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Ehud posted:dude is gonna be almost 63 when the 2021 season starts Dick Vermeil was 61 when he took the Rams job after being out of football for ~15 years. EDIT: Yeah, and Pete Carrol was 59 when the Seahawks hired him.
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Imagine Marvin Lewis with an owner that pays a scouting department
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Lewis is a fine retread imo and his absence from the bengals definitely shows. I think he just ran out of gas and effort in his latter years and you cant blame him for that so probably one of the safer and more sensible second HC hires you can make.
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I could see lewis being a jim caldwell on the lions type stabilizing influence, on what team i don't know though. you kinda have to hear the leaks about what teams are swinging for the fences and which are just trying to claw back to normal
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I hope the bengals hire marvin
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Marvin Lewis got the Bengals to the playoffs a decent amount. He just couldn't WIN in the playoffs... In terms of retreads you could definitely do worse.
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Lewis needs a good OC for any hope of a decent playoff run. I think the bigger value is what he brings to scouting and talent development and at the very least should be a position coach/DC/FO-guy somewhere if he wanted to be or no one thinks he can cut it as a HC
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seiferguy posted:Marvin Lewis got the Bengals to the playoffs a decent amount. He just couldn't WIN in the playoffs... And his two best teams got derailed by QB injuries. I’d rather give Marvin Lewis a shot over any of the Patriot-associated retreads like McDaniels or BoB.
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I would take him on the Bears in a heartbeat. He regularly made the playoffs with &e. He has always done less with more.
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How about Marv Levy.
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Lewis' teams always seemed completely undisciplined and out of control to me. They cost themselves multiple games a year (and playoff games) with braindead penalties.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:How about Marv Levy. I’d take a 95-year old Marv Levy over a few current coaches just for the history and literature quotes.
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Lewis had a great defensive run with the Bengals from 2009 to 2016, though I'm not sure how much to credit that to him and how much to his coordinators. I wouldn't mind seeing what he could do with Khalil Mack.
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Dec 9, 2020 20:37
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Arians was 60 when the Cardinals hired him.
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mcmagic posted:Lewis' teams always seemed completely undisciplined and out of control to me. They cost themselves multiple games a year (and playoff games) with braindead penalties. I mean Marvin Lewis was...a big second chance guy so discipline may not have been his strong suit.
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pasaluki posted:I mean Marvin Lewis was...a big second chance guy so discipline may not have been his strong suit. I think that was tied into the resources they had though. if you have no money for scouts, why not take chances on the guys who crater in the draft because they piss hot or have eensy teensey women beating problems? Then when you have them, they gently caress up in the league too, so you can fine them a bunch of money and re-sign them for cheap!
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marvin is 100% on-board drafting/signing stupid pieces of poo poo if they have a lot of talent but i think if you didn't give him what equates roughly to co-GM power he wouldn't do nearly as much extreme dumbass player acquisition as he did with mike brown at the helm of the franchise. mike loves extreme dumbasses as well
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If you take all the top talent assholes who slide for character reasons then you just let everyone else scout for you for free, which is especially helpful when you have no scouting department cause the owner is a cheap rear end. Big brain plays
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Kalli posted:I think that was tied into the resources they had though. Agreed, I was going to say I think Vontaze Burfict and Pacman Jones were going to do that stuff regardless of where they ended up. hifi posted:I could see lewis being a jim caldwell on the lions type stabilizing influence, on what team i don't know though. you kinda have to hear the leaks about what teams are swinging for the fences and which are just trying to claw back to normal Marvin Lewis to Jacksonville, who says no?
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Power of Pecota posted:Agreed, I was going to say I think Vontaze Burfict and Pacman Jones were going to do that stuff regardless of where they ended up. Marvin, maybe.
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Marv is a good coach. He hires good supporting staffs and isn't a diva. He knows how to develop a roster and isn't a diva. He also calls people midgets and thinks concussions aren't real. Swings and roundabouts.
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Burfict's personal foul against Antonio Brown in the playoffs was the funniest, most flagrant, most predictable thing i've ever seen in the NFL. Like how did Marvin not have him off the field for that play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8iFSP_S5h8&t=49s
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Marvin is better than most of the coaches who will get hired over him this year
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FizFashizzle posted:Burfict's personal foul against Antonio Brown in the playoffs was the funniest, most flagrant, most predictable thing i've ever seen in the NFL. He's the only player in NFL history to single handedly win and lose the same playoff game.
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Burfict didn't have the mental stability to be an NFL player and Lewis kept him on the team for a long long time.
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Burfict was failed by the coaching staff. He was a supremely talented player but his transgressions were overtly overlooked by the coaching staff. Again, Marv literally thinks concussions aren't real. He was the best defensive player I ever saw play, for the Bengals or any other team. When he started doing lovely personal fouls in 2013 if Marvin would of jumped on him he could have been a Hall of fame calibre player. Marv ignored his bullshit and enabled him. Late in his career his reputation was so bad he once literally got ejected for being within 5 feet of a ref. I would rate Burfict a bigger failing for Marv than his postseason record. Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Dec 10, 2020 |
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He seems genuinely confused because he did absolutely lead with his shoulder and not his helmet. The problem is he drove his shoulder directly into antonio brown's skull.
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Mr. Nice! posted:He seems genuinely confused because he did absolutely lead with his shoulder and not his helmet. The problem is he drove his shoulder directly into antonio brown's skull. Ah so that's where the AB saga starts
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a neat cape posted:Ah so that's where the AB saga starts A friend of a friend dated AB in ~14-16 and by all accounts he was a normal dude. Head trauma!
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a neat cape posted:Pete Carroll was in his early 60s wasn't he? Pete Carroll was 43 when he got his first NFL head coach job with the Jets in 1994.
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Bip Roberts posted:Pete Carroll was 43 when he got his first NFL head coach job with the Jets in 1994. And he got a new HC job late in his career with Seattle? Like the question asked?
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a neat cape posted:Ah so that's where the AB saga starts I don't know if you're joking but I remember a while ago someone saying this is exactly what happened with him.
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Eifert Posting posted:He's the only player in NFL history to single handedly win and lose the same playoff game. SA2K is posting in this very thread and knows exactly how wrong this take is. I won't say it, but we all know.
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Grittybeard posted:SA2K is posting in this very thread and knows exactly how wrong this take is. man
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Eifert Posting posted:He's the only player in NFL history to single handedly win and lose the same playoff game. Point of order. Burfict's penalty only put Pittsburgh in long field goal range. Other noted headcase Pacman Jones also picked up a personal foul on the play to make it a chip shot.
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Parallelwoody posted:I don't know if you're joking but I remember a while ago someone saying this is exactly what happened with him.
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