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TheresaJayne posted:Thanks! There's a reason why not much cool stuff is coming out of the UK right now It also suddenly explains why so many of my colleagues at my internship are british.
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wilderthanmild posted:40k "tops" is very low, yes, but this is either trolling or you're using absolute cream of the crop for your example. Using payscale and other similar websites this would seem to be the tippy top for entry level. Cream of the crop are making 350 at Google.
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Oct 28, 2015 14:14
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Nobody's making 350 at Google as an entry level programmer.
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Oct 28, 2015 14:18
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TacoHavoc posted:Usually from within the local network. Sometimes remotely. You could also use your own CA that the user would have to trust but it's not going to do much good without domain names; it would pretty much only allow you to add a preassigned name that would show up in the certificate. It might actually be better to just enable SSL as an option so that companies that are competent and either have their own internal CA or understand self signed certificates can enable it. This would make the chain of trust the user's problem. mystes fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Oct 28, 2015 |
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Oct 28, 2015 14:22
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TheresaJayne posted:Thanks! You guys also have a first-world healthcare system and mostly-functional social programs, so LeftistMuslimObama posted:The UK economy is not directly comparable to the US economy.
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Edit: Just saw the general web development thread!
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Oct 28, 2015 14:59
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TheresaJayne posted:Thanks! Where in the UK are you? Certainly for anywhere in the southeast, 35k is very low for a senior dev. Hell, it's also low for Manchester.
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Oct 28, 2015 15:30
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You guys depress the gently caress out of me. In my country an entry level programer gets the equivalent of 10k USD. I managed to get a slightly better entry position at a pretty good company, certainly better paying and better actual job and am still only earning ~14k equivalent.
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Medieval Medic posted:You guys depress the gently caress out of me. In my country an entry level programer gets the equivalent of 10k USD. I managed to get a slightly better entry position at a pretty good company, certainly better paying and better actual job and am still only earning ~14k equivalent. Well, bear in mind cost of living. 10k wouldn't even cover rent in the area of the UK I live in.
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Oct 28, 2015 18:06
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Medieval Medic posted:You guys depress the gently caress out of me. 
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Oct 28, 2015 18:09
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Medieval Medic posted:You guys depress the gently caress out of me. In my country an entry level programer gets the equivalent of 10k USD. I managed to get a slightly better entry position at a pretty good company, certainly better paying and better actual job and am still only earning ~14k equivalent. If you get to that value because of coin conversion, well, it's not a good representation of your salary since it will only matter when you import
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Medieval Medic posted:You guys depress the gently caress out of me. In my country an entry level programer gets the equivalent of 10k USD. I managed to get a slightly better entry position at a pretty good company, certainly better paying and better actual job and am still only earning ~14k equivalent. ｄｅｈｕｍａｎｉｚｅ ｙｏｕｒｓｅｌｆ ａｎｄ ｆａｃｅ ｔｏ ＦＲＥＥＤＯＭ
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Munkeymon posted:You guys also have a first-world healthcare system and mostly-functional social programs, so Last I checked we have mandatory health insurance with no rejecting based on preexisting conditions, oh no it's more expensive yet somehow we have more disposable income than you.
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Is it not possible to get a contract as an outsourcee? 10/yr Is well below minimum wage here, you can probably get more than that by being exploited by Amazon's mechanical turk. Not as a suggestion, just that I'd imagine there's lots of contracts available for way more.
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ultrafilter posted:Nobody's making 350 at Google as an entry level programmer. Entry level? No. But there are plenty of people making that with the title Software Engineer II. If you want to hire someone competent, 40k is la la land.
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KernelSlanders posted:Entry level? No. But there are plenty of people making that with the title Software Engineer II. I don't believe this. The people who are typically making 300+ at Google or other big tech companies are the people who have very specific skills that the company values very highly because not many people have them. People who are at Software Engineer II just haven't had the time to develop that level of specialized skill. (And besides, most of that compensation is going to be stock, not cash. It's not really comparable to an ordinary package.)
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:The UK economy is not directly comparable to the US economy. That is where I work, but the same job in any smaller company is about £50k
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wilderthanmild posted:I haven't checked the most recent one yet and didn't post it myself since my boss requires all job postings go out through one person, but last time 40k was explicitly mentioned in the ad and we still got a lot of applications from people who could get way way way better. They probably think there's a typo and you're missing a 1 in front of the 40. Even if you find someone at $40k, if they're any decent, you should also be expecting to lose them immediately.
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KernelSlanders posted:Entry level? No. But there are plenty of people making that with the title Software Engineer II. If you want to hire someone competent, 40k is la la land. I'd love to know who they are, because if you're a SWE II at Google and you make $350k TC you either rolled a 20 (and confirmed with two more 20s  (and the compensation committee was high AF when your packet came)) when negotiating your salary, or you're not really a SWE II and that's just your title for some weird reason.350k total compensation is upper level dev/management, not even close to SWE II. Source: I'm a SWE III (edit: III, not II  ) at Google. Please give me the username of these magical SWEs so that I can confirm your story.
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Volmarias posted:I'd love to know who they are, because if you're a SWE II at Google and you make $350k TC you either rolled a 20 (and confirmed with two more 20s Wait, are salaries at Google determined by D&D dice rolls? What happens if you roll a 1?
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* grabs critical fail table * you uh... will have to work at microsoft
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Skandranon posted:Wait, are salaries at Google determined by D&D dice rolls? What happens if you roll a 1? You're sent to mountain view and live in a van in the parking lot. (no your salary is not based on dice rolls although it might seem that way sometimes)
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Volmarias posted:You're sent to mountain view and live in a van in the parking lot. Didn't some blogger do this for like a year
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program666 posted:* grabs critical fail table * 'microsoft' is a funny way to misspell 'oracle'
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Munkeymon posted:'microsoft' is a funny way to misspell 'oracle' as if there's any prestige in working for a company outside the apple/google/facebook triangle anyway
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carry on then posted:as if there's any prestige in working for a company outside the apple/google/facebook triangle anyway I was just thinking that at least MS has some best-in-class products that one could aspire to work on. E: oh, I guess Oracle has ZFS now
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Volmarias posted:I'd love to know who they are, because if you're a SWE II at Google and you make $350k TC you either rolled a 20 (and confirmed with two more 20s If by upper level you mean like T4-5 (i.e. two levels above SWE II) Source: I'm a SWE III at Google.
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Edit: snip. I shouldn't talk this much about this. PM me with your ldap if you want to chat about this but I'm 99% sure you're wrong.
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Oct 30, 2015 19:20
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Munkeymon posted:I was just thinking that at least MS has some best-in-class products that one could aspire to work on. I still have a hard time imagining showing up to an interview at Facebook with Microsoft as your last position and not getting laughed out of the room, much less abjectly irrelevant companies like Oracle.
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Google makes $280k in profit for every employee they have. That is, they could give everyone a $280k raise and then they would break even. If they have a retention problem, throwing money at people might not be the best solution but it is an easy one.
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Whats the least number of bits needed to encode characters to store english message/literature (not code, so you can eliminate a bunch of special chars)? Hell, you can eliminate case too as that's not important to the message right? 26 alpha chars 10 numbers 1 space 7 ,."?-+! 44 so far so with 6 bits there's still 20 chars left. So 6 bits? Shaocaholica fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Nov 1, 2015 |
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Shaocaholica posted:Whats the least number of bits needed to encode characters to store english literature (not code, so you can eliminate a bunch of special chars). Hell, you can eliminate case too as that's not important to the message right? Isn't it five? Old ticker tapes:  Shifting between the two "cases" is just sending a code and then all stuff after that is "toggled" (like capslock) which might be cheating, but you can use the lower row and no swap if you don't need numbers.
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Jewel posted:Isn't it five? Old ticker tapes: Oh I never thought of that. Interesting. Not sure if there's much to be saved with special switch codes if you end up compressing the whole message as well.
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The fewest number of aggregate bits is likely to be some sort of variable-width Huffman coding, because there are many many more "e"s than "z"s. So encoding e with 3 bits and z with 10 is likely to give savings overall.
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Jewel posted:Shifting between the two "cases" is just sending a code and then all stuff after that is "toggled" (like capslock) which might be cheating, but you can use the lower row and no swap if you don't need numbers. Please don't bring back ISO-2022.
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This is probably really obvious, but I'm not figuring out what to google. In powershell, I'm making a script to archive old items in some folders. I'm having trouble at this line: move-item -path $olditems\ -destination "C:\Users\me\DownloadsArchive. Olditems is everything in downloads that hasn't been accessed in 30 days. The thing is, it wants a specific file name. Do I have to do a for each object to get this to work?
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Jewel posted:Isn't it five? Old ticker tapes: Using that kind of logic, we can probably use even fewer bits. For a given N bits, you could use the first N/2 to toggle different charsets and the last N/2 to specify letters in the last chosen charset. That should give you 2^(2N - 2) characters, so 4 bits gets you 64 characters. However, allowing state to carry forward like this is a bit strange given how the question was asked. You could argue that with stateful encoding, all you really need is 1 bit. If the question is really "what's the smallest way to store all English literature" then a lookup table for common words and phrases and Huffman encoding for uncommon words is probably the way to go, but I'm mostly just talking out my rear end at this point.
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Using a bit to switch character sets is literally just a less general form of Huffman encoding.
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If only there existed an extensive body of research on compressing English text.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:This is probably really obvious, but I'm not figuring out what to google. In powershell, I'm making a script to archive old items in some folders. I'm having trouble at this line: move-item -path $olditems\ -destination "C:\Users\me\DownloadsArchive. Olditems is everything in downloads that hasn't been accessed in 30 days. The thing is, it wants a specific file name. Do I have to do a for each object to get this to work? So do a foreach-object: $olditems | % {mv $_ C:\Users\me\DownloadsArchive} mystes fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Nov 2, 2015 |
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