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-Inu- posted:Overlands and Element 2's will be good until the 50's. Bastion's will be good into the 40's comfortably. Below that, your hands are going to get cold if you're riding for more than 20 minutes or so. Don't bother with heated glove liners. They are basically impossible to fit under gloves. You have to buy a linerless glove, often have to size up, and even then it's a huge hassle to get the liners in and out. Heated gloves are best; you sacrifice protection, but you're also sacrificing your safety if your hands are so cold that they are distracting you. gently caress.... I do about 30 miles on a highway that goes down the bay at night, so I've got lots of windchill and moisture to contend with. The temperature doesn't drop below 30 usually, at least. Any relatively protective gloves that are popular here?
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Chichevache posted:gently caress.... I do about 30 miles on a highway that goes down the bay at night, so I've got lots of windchill and moisture to contend with. The temperature doesn't drop below 30 usually, at least. Any relatively protective gloves that are popular here? Why don't you get some hippo hands?
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builds character posted:Why don't you get some hippo hands? Because
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Chichevache posted:Because Try warm and safe? They have a discount if you say you just did the MSF.
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Nov 16, 2015 04:26
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I got a pair of Oxford HotHands heated grip wraps, which are fricking AMAZING. Hot as the surface of the goddamn sun. My hands weren't that warm even in the summer, which is wild considering I'm on an unfaired bike. Unfortunately they make the grips too big for my (extremely tiny) hands, so I have to sell em now  Real bummer.
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Nov 16, 2015 04:58
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Heated grips.
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Nov 16, 2015 05:00
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Z3n posted:Heated grips. Still doesn't protect the whole hand from wind chill. These plus something to block the wind would be better.
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Yeah given the choice I'd prefer either heated gloves or just warm gloves with wind protection over the bars instead of heated grips. They work but they don't work that great. You gotta keep your fingers on the bars all the time to get the heat transfer, and it only heats the palm of your hand which isn't really the cold side in the wind anyway.
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Chichevache posted:gently caress.... I do about 30 miles on a highway that goes down the bay at night, so I've got lots of windchill and moisture to contend with. The temperature doesn't drop below 30 usually, at least. Any relatively protective gloves that are popular here? edit: They also have a DWR coating on the outer shell so they're going to repel moisture/light rain. Not waterproof by any means, but it's better than nothing.
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-Inu- posted:Just get heated gloves. Trust me, it's worth every penny. The EX Gloves are textile so they help block the wind, they are dual-closure (not coming off your hands if you crash), have palm protection and the outer pinky seam is protected. Yeah, I definitely want heated gloves. Grips alone probably won't do it right now and km not using god drat hippo hands unless I move somewhere with some loving snow. I've got ~some~ self respect. Any other recommendations for good heated gloves? I'd like a little variety.
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Nov 16, 2015 05:54
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There are other heated gloves, but Gerbing/Gyde are pretty much the industry standard. They use microwire so you can't feel the wires at all and there is a lifetime warranty on the filaments themselves, I believe. Quality is top-notch and they stand by their product. IMO the EX model is their best offering.
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Do you have any wind deflection? barkbusters or similar? I find that oxford heated grips, + stock deflectors on my transalp + normal vinter gloves is enough down to freezing temp.
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Supradog posted:Do you have any wind deflection? barkbusters or similar? I find that oxford heated grips, + stock deflectors on my transalp + normal vinter gloves is enough down to freezing temp. No. No wind protection and I am using Alpinestars SP1 gauntlets right now, which are not winter gear. Thanks for the rec, Inu. I'm going to snag a pair of the EXs and that should be enough to get me through the rest of winter after I get a pair of pants that aren't mesh Summer gear.
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a little wind protection goes a long way. My snowmobile handwarmers get hot enough to melt the palm of my gloves but without the wind deflection from the windshield, it wouldn't be enough.
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EX250 Type R posted:a little wind protection goes a long way. My snowmobile handwarmers get hot enough to melt the palm of my gloves but without the wind deflection from the windshield, it wouldn't be enough. If heated gloves alone can't handle Bay Area weather then I will consider putting great big floppy canvas sacks onto the ZRX to shield me from the hoary chill of winter. Until then I'll do my best to grit my teeth and bear the brisk.
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lol no i mean im in favor of heated gloves over heated grips because i didnt expect you to throw bark busters on your zrx
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EX250 Type R posted:lol no i mean im in favor of heated gloves over heated grips because i didnt expect you to throw bark busters on your zrx Thank god.  Also im going to feel like a massive pussy throwing hippo hands on a bike when we don't even get weather below freezing (until the windchill, that is).
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Nov 16, 2015 14:09
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Chichevache posted:Thank god. http://www.warmnsafe.com/generation-windblock-womens-heated-pants-liner/
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Chichevache posted:Alpine Overland Drystar Picked these up a few weeks ago and they're really good, thin enough to let you feel poo poo but keep all the water and wind out (it's been about 40-50 over here), pretty good protection as there was no noticeable damage from when i highsided my bike either!
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M42 posted:I got a pair of Oxford HotHands heated grip wraps, which are fricking AMAZING. Hot as the surface of the goddamn sun. My hands weren't that warm even in the summer, which is wild considering I'm on an unfaired bike. will they fit on a cb500x? I might want to get them off of you if they do.
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Chichevache posted:Thank god. Honestly, nothing is quite as miserable as cold and damp. Our weather and yours is pretty similar: it's cold, it's humid, and if you have any wind chill at all it's just wretched. Give me cold and dry any day for riding. I got a pair of the Rukka lobster gloves last winter, and they've been amazing so far. That and heated grips, and I was riding in sub-30F temps (for no more than about 30-40 minutes at a time) last year pretty comfortably. They keep the wet out, which I think is the most important part. Also, they have actual armor (palm sliders, scaphoid protection) which is more than can be said for a lot of the cold weather gear.
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nitrogen posted:will they fit on a cb500x? I might want to get them off of you if they do. They're universal, they just wrap around any grip and velcro together, and connect with pigtails to the battery. Send me a PM if ya want
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Lynza posted:Honestly, nothing is quite as miserable as cold and damp. Our weather and yours is pretty similar: it's cold, it's humid, and if you have any wind chill at all it's just wretched. Give me cold and dry any day for riding. I found a proper leather gauntlet from Gerber that is heated.  Deciding on that or the EX textile tonight.
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Also keep in mind that you are going to need a Temperature Controller, or at the very least an On/Off Switch. Heated gear will burn you if you don't have a way to regulate the temperature.
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-Inu- posted:Also keep in mind that you are going to need a Temperature Controller, or at the very least an On/Off Switch. Heated gear will burn you if you don't have a way to regulate the temperature. I watched the Revzilla videos. 
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Chichevache posted:I watched the Revzilla videos. Anthony is so dreamy 
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Does he keep your hands warm?
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who is anthony. Anyway, I finally got around to trying this monstrosity of a suit on.  You absolutely have to go up one size from what you would normally wear. I was wearing a US50 (my normal size) without a back protector and it was so tight that the reinforced speed hump was digging right into my shoulder blades. Also, whoever though that removable liners were a good idea should be taken out to pasture. They are the most annoying thing in existence (at least the way Dainese does them).
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-Inu- posted:whoever though that removable liners were a good idea should be taken out to pasture. They are the most annoying thing in existence (at least the way Dainese does them). What do you mean? I love the removable quilted liner in my Dainese jacket. I have to remove/refit it seldom enough that I can't really imagine ever getting annoyed with the process, it takes like three minutes. This is the two zips, two sleeve press studs, two sleeve elastic loops with press studs and the neck press stud method.
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-Inu- posted:who is anthony. HeythisisanthonyfromRevzillaTVwhereyoucanwatch,decide,andride! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdaduZ_Rr9w So revzilla is sold out of the Gerbert EXs in my size. My other two options are the Hero and the Vanguard, which are full leather but also $200-220.  Guess I'm dropping 250+ on gloves and a thermostat. I'll let you all know if they work real good.
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Here4DaGangBang posted:What do you mean? I love the removable quilted liner in my Dainese jacket. I have to remove/refit it seldom enough that I can't really imagine ever getting annoyed with the process, it takes like three minutes. This is the two zips, two sleeve press studs, two sleeve elastic loops with press studs and the neck press stud method. Chichevache posted:So revzilla is sold out of the Gerbert EXs in my size. My other two options are the Hero and the Vanguard, which are full leather but also $200-220.
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Chichevache posted:HeythisisanthonyfromRevzillaTVwhereyoucanwatch,decide,andride! warmnsafe.com edit: comes with bonus rage. http://www.warmnsafe.com/we-invent-they-copy-why/
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builds character posted:warmnsafe.com  Now I've got to do some research, but I think their stuff looked good at first glance.
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-Inu- posted:It's not the process of removing it - it's the fact that the way they are secured means they shift around a ton and your feet get caught on them etc. Oh, lined PANTS? I can't speak to that, but I can imagine that would be a bit painful. builds character posted:warmnsafe.com Sounds like they've been heat-trolled.
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Here4DaGangBang posted:Oh, lined PANTS? I can't speak to that, but I can imagine that would be a bit painful.
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There's a helmet I'm fairly sure actually exists where when the visor flips down, it also gets pulled back into the hinges so as to be flush with the helmet surface (or at least more so than most) when closed. Anyone know what I'm talking about, or did I imagine this?
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Renaissance Robot posted:There's a helmet I'm fairly sure actually exists where when the visor flips down, it also gets pulled back into the hinges so as to be flush with the helmet surface (or at least more so than most) when closed. http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle-helmets-internal-sun-visor ?
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Renaissance Robot posted:There's a helmet I'm fairly sure actually exists where when the visor flips down, it also gets pulled back into the hinges so as to be flush with the helmet surface (or at least more so than most) when closed. I know what you're talking about, shoei and a few other brands have systems in the hinges that have this effect and press the visor into the rubber bead around the outside to make it watertight. It isn't that unusual but it's mostly an expensive helmet thing AFAIK because it makes the whole visor and hinge area more complicated.
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Correct. With older helmets such as the RF-1000 you would have to manually adjust the baseplates (they could shift over time) to make a full seal. The modern design (e.g. RF-1200) uses a spring to pull the visor against the rubber seal so you don't have to manually adjust. Not sure off the top of my head which/if any "non-premium" helmet do this.
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2015 ZLA Awards are up. I don't necessarily agree with all of the picks, but they're there.
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