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Spedman
Mar 12, 2010

Kangaroos hate Hasselblads
Japan Camera Hunter is coming out with his own film:
http://www.japancamerahunter.com/2016/03/film-news-announcing-jch-streetpan-400-film/

Comes out to about $8.75 USD a roll

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vxsarin
Oct 29, 2004


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Spedman posted:

Japan Camera Hunter is coming out with his own film:
http://www.japancamerahunter.com/2016/03/film-news-announcing-jch-streetpan-400-film/

Comes out to about $8.75 USD a roll

So he is starting up *new* production on old surveillance film? Looks pretty decent. Lots of contrast.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
How long do mixed C41 chems really last? I have the 1 liter Unicolor kit and I wanted make sure I didn't waste it. Was planning on having 12-14 rolls ready to dev before I mixed them but I don't really think that's realistic.

BANME.sh
Jan 23, 2008

What is this??
Are you some kind of hypnotist??
Grimey Drawer
I used a tetenal kit that was mixed over a year ago and they came out fine. Stored in a cool dark place with the air squeezed out should keep it for a few months easy.

Spedman
Mar 12, 2010

Kangaroos hate Hasselblads
Keep them in the fridge in a concertina bottle with all the air squeezed out to get the longest life out of them. But I wouldn't think they'd survive longer than a few months after mixing, without compensating heavily.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
A few months is all I needed to hear. :) Thanks guys.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

BlackMK4 posted:

Thank you for that, it looks simple enough. I wonder if anyone sells printed PCBs for this. Time to look around a little bit.
I just want to make sure that the thing isn't hugely off before I shoot another 10 rolls with it. :)
Just use a smallish breadboard and put the whole thing in a lidded box when not in use.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
I've got some Portra I was going to develop this weekend but according to the bottles my C-41 chemicals (Tetenal) are a year old tomorrow and have done half a dozen rolls. Reckon it'll be OK?

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
I've done a few batches of b&w dev before and did my first two C41 developing sessions last night. Imagine my surprise when the blix basically shot the top off of my patterson and covered my kitchen. :lol: The first try was kinda a shitshow but the second round went very smoothly, all turned out well. :)

Spedman
Mar 12, 2010

Kangaroos hate Hasselblads

big scary monsters posted:

I've got some Portra I was going to develop this weekend but according to the bottles my C-41 chemicals (Tetenal) are a year old tomorrow and have done half a dozen rolls. Reckon it'll be OK?

I'd develop the roll you care the least about or throw through a roll of some cheap c41 35mm film to make sure it works.

crap nerd
May 24, 2008
What sort of difference could I expect developing with Rodinal or Ilford chemicals rather than Studinol? I got a bunch of it when I got my paterson tank, would I be better off using Rodinal if I want to try out stand development?

Spedman
Mar 12, 2010

Kangaroos hate Hasselblads
Studinol is Rodinal Special, which isn't simply just Rodinal, it's more like HC-110 apparently:

http://www.apug.org/forum/index.php?threads/rodinal-special-studional.16279/

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
I hosed up and bought 5 rolls of 120 Ektar instead of 35mm. This is how I end up with a medium format camera.

Hokkaido Anxiety
May 21, 2007

slub club 2013

BlackMK4 posted:

I hosed up and bought 5 rolls of 120 Ektar instead of 35mm. This is how I end up with a medium format camera.

Trade it for portra, Ektar is finicky and works better as a warlord's name.

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

Spedman posted:

Japan Camera Hunter is coming out with his own film:
http://www.japancamerahunter.com/2016/03/film-news-announcing-jch-streetpan-400-film/

Comes out to about $8.75 USD a roll

Just to circumvent further speculation, this is not a new film nor is he starting up something new.
It's a loving ripoff that's what it is.

It's the same stock as Rollei Retro 400S. It's old Agfa Gaevert surveillance film.
The development instructions match up to a T as does the acetate base color and halation layer coloring.

Documentation:

AGFA Gaevert spec-sheet: https://www.agfa.com/sp/global/en/binaries/ASP%20400%20X%20PE1%20PE0_tcm611-34788.pdf

The same thing much cheaper: https://www.macodirect.de/en/film/black-und-white-films/1844/rollei-retro-400s-35mm-36-exposures
And in 120: https://www.macodirect.de/en/film/black-und-white-films/1847/rollei-retro-400s-roll-film-120

Notice the absolutely identical development times, temperatures and dilutions for ALL chemicals here:
Rollei Retro 400s AKA Agfa APX 400: http://www.argentix.ca/specs/338-1.pdf
Mr Hunts post peddling his "new" film: http://www.japancamerahunter.com/2016/03/film-news-announcing-jch-streetpan-400-film/

Spedman
Mar 12, 2010

Kangaroos hate Hasselblads

VomitOnLino posted:

Just to circumvent further speculation, this is not a new film nor is he starting up something new.
It's a loving ripoff that's what it is.

It's the same stock as Rollei Retro 400S. It's old Agfa Gaevert surveillance film.
The development instructions match up to a T as does the acetate base color and halation layer coloring.

Documentation:

AGFA Gaevert spec-sheet: https://www.agfa.com/sp/global/en/binaries/ASP%20400%20X%20PE1%20PE0_tcm611-34788.pdf

The same thing much cheaper: https://www.macodirect.de/en/film/black-und-white-films/1844/rollei-retro-400s-35mm-36-exposures
And in 120: https://www.macodirect.de/en/film/black-und-white-films/1847/rollei-retro-400s-roll-film-120

Notice the absolutely identical development times, temperatures and dilutions for ALL chemicals here:
Rollei Retro 400s AKA Agfa APX 400: http://www.argentix.ca/specs/338-1.pdf
Mr Hunts post peddling his "new" film: http://www.japancamerahunter.com/2016/03/film-news-announcing-jch-streetpan-400-film/

That's a bit poo poo on his behalf by touting him bringing a "new" film to market, the FPP guys have been doing that for years now with out the disingenuous crap.

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine
He says in the post that it's an existing aero stock???

vxsarin
Oct 29, 2004


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VomitOnLino posted:

Just to circumvent further speculation, this is not a new film nor is he starting up something new.
It's a loving ripoff that's what it is.

It's the same stock as Rollei Retro 400S. It's old Agfa Gaevert surveillance film.
The development instructions match up to a T as does the acetate base color and halation layer coloring.

Documentation:

AGFA Gaevert spec-sheet: https://www.agfa.com/sp/global/en/binaries/ASP%20400%20X%20PE1%20PE0_tcm611-34788.pdf

The same thing much cheaper: https://www.macodirect.de/en/film/black-und-white-films/1844/rollei-retro-400s-35mm-36-exposures
And in 120: https://www.macodirect.de/en/film/black-und-white-films/1847/rollei-retro-400s-roll-film-120

Notice the absolutely identical development times, temperatures and dilutions for ALL chemicals here:
Rollei Retro 400s AKA Agfa APX 400: http://www.argentix.ca/specs/338-1.pdf
Mr Hunts post peddling his "new" film: http://www.japancamerahunter.com/2016/03/film-news-announcing-jch-streetpan-400-film/

He says in his post that's what it is....did you read it?

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

365 Nog Hogger posted:

He says in the post that it's an existing aero stock???

Yeah he's saying this, then that, kind of weaselling around on the issue.
Initially he tried to create the impression that this was an old film-stock which he "revived", when that provably isn't so.

As film nut, of course, I'm all for film getting to a larger target audience. But...

It would be best if resellers were upfront about what they're doing - instead of trying to foster the impression that a film hadn't been available before just to garner more hype and sales. I don't want the barrier of entry to shooting film raised by needless confusion and opaque pricing or re-packaging schemes. Or people abandoning (the) film because "it looks all the same". (Because it is.)

vxsarin
Oct 29, 2004


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365 Nog Hogger posted:

He says in the post that it's an existing aero stock???

New stock, old "formula" I believe. It's basically being brought from the dead under a new name.

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

vxsarin posted:

He says in his post that's what it is....did you read it?

Speak for yourself, you asked:

vxsarin posted:

So he is starting up *new* production on old surveillance film? Looks pretty decent. Lots of contrast.

The answer to your question is no.
This film was already available and was being coated (and edge marked) as Rollei Retro 400s -- available in 120 and 135.

So,

JCH's blurb posted:

Now, I couldn’t have a completely new emulsion made, so I decided to go with an old discontinued surveillance film that was original made by AGFA, and have it put back into production. And thus JCH StreetPan was born! So this is a re-born film, not a re-spooled film that is still being sold. This is also not an ‘old stock’ film or a ‘pancake’ that was kicking around a ‘dusty warehouse’. This is a freshly produced emulsion with an expiry date of 2020.
The italicized parts are a complete and utter lie.
It was already produced and resold as Rollei Retro 400s.

Edit: Yes, I am aware that he's saying that's not 400s. Which is untrue. People have him actually backed in a corner and he's deleting those comments on his website. In other places he insisted that it's 400s but with a "new scratch proof coat". Haha.

VomitOnLino fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Mar 23, 2016

aricoarena
Aug 7, 2006
citizenh8 bought me this account because he is a total qt.
KEH is having 20% OFF used film gear - FILM20

vxsarin
Oct 29, 2004


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aricoarena posted:

KEH is having 20% OFF used film gear - FILM20

Pentax 6x7 200mm f/4 on the way. Been eyeing it!

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

vxsarin posted:

Pentax 6x7 200mm f/4 on the way. Been eyeing it!

Nice.
That's an awesome lens - super sharp across the frame wide open already.
Regret selling my Pentax 67 gear, but I couldn't risk more slipped disks if I didn't.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
I'm about to use an enlarger for the first time in three years, and I'm making color prints. wish me luck

SMERSH Mouth
Jun 25, 2005

Good luck. I can't reliably create enlarger-ready 120 negatives (with a Kiev 60 and plastic rotary tank) because something is causing them to have... these things:



Anyone recognize what this is? It happens.. consistently, but randomly - if that makes sense. It doesn't occur on the entire roll, but I don't think I've developed a batch of 120 film with this camera that hasn't had at least a single frame sporting one of these marks.

Edit: I used the last of my developer for the roll in the above photo, and I think it wasn't quite enough to cover the top of the spool, so just ignore the bubbly looking poo poo at the top of the frame. I know what that's from.

Edit 2: Oh hell, I bet it's from the 'teeth' on the plastic development spool.

SMERSH Mouth fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Mar 26, 2016

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
ra-4 fuckin owns



no loving around with split filters or developing trays, just put your print in a slot in the wall and it pops out the other side, developed, dried, and flat 5 minutes later. adjust color filters, repeat

atomicthumbs fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Mar 26, 2016

BANME.sh
Jan 23, 2008

What is this??
Are you some kind of hypnotist??
Grimey Drawer
What equipment do you have and what do you do for temperature management? I have an enlarger with a color head but no idea how to tackle RA-4 at home without special equipment

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

BANME.sh posted:

What equipment do you have and what do you do for temperature management? I have an enlarger with a color head but no idea how to tackle RA-4 at home without special equipment

Temperature management is fairly easy, actually. Just put the print into one end of this thing



and it does it for you

BANME.sh
Jan 23, 2008

What is this??
Are you some kind of hypnotist??
Grimey Drawer
darn

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc
collegestudent.jpg

SMERSH Mouth
Jun 25, 2005

I've discovered that a full frame DSLR with a good macro lens gives more detail than an Epson v550 scanner. The problem is, I'm using an iPad app as a light pad and the pixel pattern shows up in the photo. I've had to downsize the image somewhat to mask it, to a degree.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
that's actually at Rayko Photo Center; this is for my alt process class's color unit. there may be a color darkroom near you! Rayko rents their group darkroom stations for $9 an hour, with processing included. they also sell RA-4 paper for what seems to be absurdly cheap (under $25 for 50 8.5x11" sheets of Endura Premiere N semi-matte).

crap nerd
May 24, 2008

SMERSH Mouth posted:

The problem is, I'm using an iPad app as a light pad and the pixel pattern shows up in the photo. I've had to downsize the image somewhat to mask it, to a degree.

If you could get a sheet of thin, white material to diffuse the light slightly you might get better results or you could use something to rise you negatives above the screen slightly so the pixels are in soft focus and don't show up.

alkanphel
Mar 24, 2004

SMERSH Mouth posted:

I've discovered that a full frame DSLR with a good macro lens gives more detail than an Epson v550 scanner. The problem is, I'm using an iPad app as a light pad and the pixel pattern shows up in the photo. I've had to downsize the image somewhat to mask it, to a degree.

If you're planning to do this consistently, you should invest in a proper light table.

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

alkanphel posted:

If you're planning to do this consistently, you should invest in a proper light table.

The Huion ones on amazon are pretty nice and not too expensive.

bobmarleysghost
Mar 7, 2006



alkanphel posted:

If you're planning to do this consistently, you should invest in a proper light table.

I did that, but then realised that i get too much newton rings doing it that way.
I used my old scnaner's 35mm holder and put that on the light table - it elevates the film enough to get rid of those rings.

SMERSH Mouth
Jun 25, 2005

Yeah I've got film holders so hopefully those can raise it up high enough. I need to find something that's translucent, white, and not textured like paper to put between the screen and the film holder.

But I'm pretty close to just buying a real light pad.

It's seriously so much better than my cheap scanner, though. I wish I had thought of it before I bought it.

Spedman
Mar 12, 2010

Kangaroos hate Hasselblads

BANME.sh posted:

What equipment do you have and what do you do for temperature management? I have an enlarger with a color head but no idea how to tackle RA-4 at home without special equipment

I used trays and room temp chems the last time I did ra-4 and got quite good results. The kit I used is this one:

https://www.macodirect.de/en/chemistry/color-chemistry/ra-4/4480/compard-digibase-ra4-print-kit-for-1l?c=651
(But it looks like they can't ship out of the EU now)

It's a standardised process like C-41, so you do all your tweaking with the CMY head and not with dev times etc. Also all the dev/fix is done in full darkness.

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Primo Itch
Nov 4, 2006
I confessed a horrible secret for this account!

SMERSH Mouth posted:

Yeah I've got film holders so hopefully those can raise it up high enough. I need to find something that's translucent, white, and not textured like paper to put between the screen and the film holder.

But I'm pretty close to just buying a real light pad.

It's seriously so much better than my cheap scanner, though. I wish I had thought of it before I bought it.

A small piece of milky acrilic will do the job.

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