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Wizchine posted:I'll go wild and name the remaining BRIC country - Russia. The whole BRICs inanity was hilarious. It took what, a couple years to completely crash and burn? Brazil- just lol. Russia - RIP India - lol China - lololol
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Boiled Water posted:You are out of your minds, surely the next contender for leading the world is Brazil. Brazils "success" story already unraveled, that dream is over. You can read articles all about it like 5-6 years ago but now its just doom and gloom.
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Barudak posted:Brazils "success" story already unraveled, that dream is over. You can read articles all about it like 5-6 years ago but now its just doom and gloom. I remember reading about how straight-up government corruption ended up being some insane proportion of GDP, like 8 loving percent.
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Pick posted:I remember reading about how straight-up government corruption ended up being some insane proportion of GDP, like 8 loving percent. 8%? get on the level of dongbei The Financial Times posted:The Chinese province of Liaoning fabricated fiscal data for four years, a senior official has admitted, the latest blow to the already shaky reputation of China’s economic statistics.
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Nah, I don't mean things tinged by corruption, or affected by corruption. I mean corruption like as a pure industry, as opposed to like "agriculture".
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If I understand you right, the unambiguous way to describe it would be: Transactions related to corruption, such as bribes, account for 8 percent of the total of all transactions in the country. For every dollar spent by anyone on anything, 8 cents are spent on bribes.
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May 6, 2017 02:18
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People are always giddy for the fall of America, but I think by the time that happens, the entire world is going to be in a pretty bad place. No, China isn't going to save us by throwing a billion trillion dollars at "green technology" and chabuduo solar panels made from half-understood blueprints stolen from foreign sources.
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May 6, 2017 03:07
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Haier, as a goon who loves epic SA happenings - please trip sit Chaoshan girl. It'll be fun for everyone and nothing can go wrong. oh my god dude what the gently caress
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May 6, 2017 03:20
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Listening to economist Mark Blyth really puts China into perspective. Their economy is the size of two Germany's. It crashing would not be enough to destroy the world economy. Similarly, China is not important enough to save the world economy considering their population saves like mad instead of consuming and so much of their economy is based on the value of US Treasury bills. If the US falls, China goes with it.
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May 6, 2017 03:24
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Ccs posted:Listening to economist Mark Blyth really puts China into perspective. Their economy is the size of two Germany's. It crashing would not be enough to destroy the world economy. Similarly, China is not important enough to save the world economy considering their population saves like mad instead of consuming and so much of their economy is based on the value of US Treasury bills. If the US falls, China goes with it. Im not sure I buy saves like mad when it seems like 90% of saving is done to buy property, especially in a market that appears to be a massive property bubble.
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May 6, 2017 03:29
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The statistics show a savings rate of more than 40%, whereas in the US it's less than 20%. China does put more money into property though, since they are more distrustful of their economic system and economic fundamentals, and like to have tangible assets vs. financial products.
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May 6, 2017 03:39
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It also is generational. Older people have mattresses stuffed with cash, young people run credit. Korea has the same thing--they had a huge savings rate but there's also an absolutely massive, massive credit bubble.
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May 6, 2017 05:06
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That statistic is usually taken from the Gross Savings rate, which is misleading because it's not "savings" in the layman sense of the word. It's whatever money in the entire economy that is leftover after you accounted for money spent on consumption, net government expenditure, and net exports. People mistakenly think it means "Chinese people are putting 40% of their income in the bank" when really it means "40% of China's economy is made up of investments and capital."Ccs posted:Listening to economist Mark Blyth really puts China into perspective. Their economy is the size of two Germany's. It crashing would not be enough to destroy the world economy. Similarly, China is not important enough to save the world economy considering their population saves like mad instead of consuming and so much of their economy is based on the value of US Treasury bills. If the US falls, China goes with it. You got a link to this argument? Because this part makes no sense to me. CIGNX fucked around with this message at 05:17 on May 6, 2017 |
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May 6, 2017 05:08
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If the US suddenly stopped paying/stopped being able to pay the returns on treasury bills the whole world would be hosed over, China's not exactly alone there.
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Last night I was supposed to go to some super amazing high-quality hot pot restaurant with my boss, her family, and Chaoshan girl, but my boss has been sick these few days (like actually sick, as opposed to what most Chinese people think "sick" means), so she canceled. I went anyway with CG since I have never tried hot pot before. It never appealed to me because paying money to cook your own food when it is faster and easier and cheaper to have someone make something the same or better tasting. So we went to this highly rated place (I don't even know the name). I was right. The meal took about 100 minutes to eat, and after about 20 minutes I was annoyed with doing a few things at a time and just dumped my entire tray into the pot to make a big soup, to which I was scolded because Chinese people don't do that. I pointed out the corn and mayonnaise pizza on the menu and said non-Chinese don't do this, so we're even. It was a buffet-style hot pot where you can choose what you want as many times as you want for a fixed price, and every time I got up the Chinese people walking by me would stare so drat hard at my tray as if I was getting secret ingredients or something. "Wow, foreigners know what mushrooms are!" There was one moment where I was picking stuff out and this woman was waiting about four meters away, watching me. When I would move towards or away from her, she would move the same, never letting us get closer to each other. The second I walked away from the buffet line she scrambled to it. Since hot pot isn't a southern tradition, CG was also kinda baffled by it and said the last time she went to hot pot was at least two years ago. Her opinion of it was "Poor people, especially the old ones, have nothing to do all day, and they get sick so easy so they always feel cold. That's why they love hot pot because instead of sitting around for five hours talk, they just created a food where they can do the same thing." I don't even know how true that is, because all the tables near us had people coming and going to get ingredients and nobody was sitting together all at once or talking, and it was actually quiet in the place. Mouth-scalding factor: 9/10 Flavor: 5/10 Time wasting factor: 10/10 "I just want to eat, hurry the gently caress up and cook you stupid loving noodle" factor: 10/10 Shocked Chinese stare factor: 10/10 Would I ever try it again?: 1/10
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May 6, 2017 06:34
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Spring time is so lurvely in China
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There are some things that are simply inscrutable to a western mind.
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May 6, 2017 06:47
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Chaoshan girl is loving retarded. Like most of the women you meet.
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May 6, 2017 06:46
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Why do you always happen to bump into country bumpkins
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I really like the people staring at your shopping basket or whatever as if the secrets of the universe are in it. They're always so shocked that you're buying the same vegetables they are in the same store they go to.
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May 6, 2017 06:46
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caberham posted:Why do you always happen to bump into country bumpkins because he is a gross, personable, hilarious and unabashed gigolo
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May 6, 2017 06:48
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He's getting more in both the goo and the poo then I am, so I can't comment.
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May 6, 2017 06:54
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Whatever he's doing it's working. It's like the 'if it's stupid and it works, is it really stupid' line. He's also like 60% of the reason I'm following this thread despite never having been to China or having any desire to go.
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Haier I'm sorry but youre wrong hot pot is really really really good if you do it right, neither of you had a clue so of course it was stressful and dumb and disappointing
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Every lurker itc your homework assignment is to find a local hot pot place
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We have to specify the style of hot pot here. Some are inherently bad and there's no saving them.
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I've had korean hot pot a few times and it was all really good. Generally a person comes by and just sets it all for you but I did notice some of the koreans preferring to do things them selves.
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Yeah shabu shabu is good. Sichuan is terrible because it's just oil without any flavorings, and while Sichuan peppercorns are good they become totally overwhelming after a while in a hot pot and you can't taste anything. It's crap. I was taken to a super high class hot pot one time, and it was decent at first because the pot liquid had a ton of flavorings in it like whole ginger roots and stuff, but eventually they got overwhelmed. Also everything you put in a Sichuan hot pot ends up tasting identical. That doesn't happen in other styles. It's pretty much the only bad food in Sichuan and is also by far the most popular with Sichuan people. lol
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It annoys me that Thai food here is just hot pot but with coconut flavoured broth.
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big time bisexual posted:8%? get on the level of dongbei   My family's province.
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Jimmy Little Balls posted:It annoys me that Thai food here is just hot pot but with coconut flavoured broth. There's a really good vegetarian Bhutanese hot pot place in the southwestern part of town, I can post a location if you're interested. One of the broths is cheese, and you can get goat cheese cubes to cook in your cheese broth. They also have these soybean meatball things filled with wasabi mustard. It's awesome.
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Jimmy Little Balls posted:It annoys me that Thai food here is just hot pot but with coconut flavoured broth. What the loving gently caress
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caberham posted:What the loving gently caress In Chengdu it is literally illegal to open a restaurant that is not hot pot or a hot pot derivative like chuan chuan or maocai.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDRGPUSrpng
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How do you live in China for any length of time and not have hot pot? The common denominator in all your hosed up experiences is...
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I'm guessing he went to 海底捞火锅 Which is alright but come on, it's hotpot, chill out, eat food, talk to your friends (if you can sustain a conversation for longer than five minutes with someone you don't want to end up having sex with)
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a cyberpunk goose posted:Haier I'm sorry but youre wrong hot pot is really really really good if you do it right, neither of you had a clue so of course it was stressful and dumb and disappointing They had seven broths to choose from. I tried three (everyone had their own pot and stove, no big communal thing). One was okay and had flavor, the others were super plain so you could "taste" the food you were cooking, which was boring. caberham posted:Chaoshan girl is loving retarded. Like most of the women you meet. Grand Fromage posted:There's a really good vegetarian Bhutanese hot pot place in the southwestern part of town, I can post a location if you're interested. One of the broths is cheese, and you can get goat cheese cubes to cook in your cheese broth. They also have these soybean meatball things filled with wasabi mustard. It's awesome. It's also fun to watch the office workers and university students come in to eat to save money and get super confused and terrified at seeing trays of nicely prepared vegetable dishes, and then just get a huge plate of rice and a mountain of tofu because that's the only things they recognize. "What is this called again? Brock-o-lee? What the gently caress kind of shrubbery is this?? Eggplant? I don't see any eggs inside this plant! Cows eat this, and I eat the cows. Har har har! How do people get full on this kind of food?" hakimashou posted:How do you live in China for any length of time and not have hot pot?
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Jeoh posted:I'm guessing he went to 海底捞火锅 Hai di lao don't do buffet style
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I always joke with people that "hot pot" is just soup for impatient people. I tell them it's nothing special if I really want to piss them off.
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