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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Close OHK is an option available to shotguns and not other weapons. Snipers let you kill people far away, that's what they're good for. ARs also let you kill people far away, that's what they're good for. The AK is nice up close but probably not as nice as a shotgun. This is true. If you play so that you end up in shotgun range more than in sniper range, then you should run with AR/shotgun.
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cyanidewolf posted:This is true. If you play so that you end up in shotgun range more than in sniper range, then you should run with AR/shotgun. Well, even if you're in sniper range way more often than shotgun range, you already have a gun that's Pretty Good at that range. Having something covering a truly distinct range instead of "long range but a little better" may well be worthwhile even if it only comes up 1 in 10 games. I have plenty of shotgun kills in the top 10 - they're pretty nice for those times you manage to sneak close to someone even if it doesn't come up that often.
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Sep 7, 2017 19:40
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One super interesting thing I've noticed is that the length of your gun has an impact on when you lower it - indoors you'll drop your rifle much further from a wall or door that you will an uzi or smg. That definitely influences my desired weapon choices.
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Sep 7, 2017 19:42
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Well, even if you're in sniper range way more often than shotgun range, you already have a gun that's Pretty Good at that range. Having something covering a truly distinct range instead of "long range but a little better" may well be worthwhile even if it only comes up 1 in 10 games. I have plenty of shotgun kills in the top 10 - they're pretty nice for those times you manage to sneak close to someone even if it doesn't come up that often. Turns out AR is Pretty Good at any range.
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Sep 7, 2017 20:03
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cyanidewolf posted:Turns out AR is Pretty Good at any range. Pretty much. I'll run with the AK/AR and a SMG most of the time. I should probably do more with the shotgun, but their reload times can be a literal killer.
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Sep 7, 2017 20:08
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Cimber posted:If you learn to lead them properly then movement isnt a problem. I've gotten plenty of kills from 200+ meters with moving targets. Most of the time they just start jumping around like idiots because they can't figure out where I am shooting from. I may not get headshots, but i do get lots of bloodsplash animations. drat I need to get my ELO good enough to where people can't find me.
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Sep 7, 2017 20:16
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Dropped school, got two 8x scopes and a 4x scope. Step outside immediately get run over by a vehicle.
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Sep 7, 2017 20:16
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VulgarandStupid posted:drat I need to get my ELO good enough to where people can't find me. *posts the electric light orchestra joke @ u*
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Sep 7, 2017 20:19
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ChesterJT posted:Dropped school, got two 8x scopes and a 4x scope. Step outside immediately get run over by a vehicle. lmao i love this game
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Sep 7, 2017 20:27
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ChesterJT posted:Dropped school, got two 8x scopes and a 4x scope. Step outside immediately get run over by a vehicle. clearly you need to stay in school if you forgot to look both ways before crossing the street
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Sep 7, 2017 20:28
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was racing towards a crate for action in a mostly boring game and planned to park next to it for cover as it landed. Heard a buggy coming as I got close so slammed the brakes and got out to be ready for the guy but he was just barreling straight for my jeep and I died the second I got out as he t-boned it/me
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Sep 7, 2017 20:31
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Tweak posted:was racing towards a crate for action in a mostly boring game and planned to park next to it for cover as it landed. Heard a buggy coming as I got close so slammed the brakes and got out to be ready for the guy but he was just barreling straight for my jeep and I died the second I got out as he t-boned it/me crates are like flames to moths. So many die around them.
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Sep 7, 2017 20:34
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Played in a random squad with a random dude last night who was 41 years old, sat in a recliner, played with a trackball, played with a 70 inch television. We made it to top 3 and he was somehow the last one alive in our group. Holy poo poo, he could not hit the broad side of a barn, i couldn't stop laughing watching him try to kill one of the last 2 guys left. I was trying to explain to my younger teammates what a trackball was too and they were confused  Edit: Like literally the other guy was around 30 feet in front of him, prone, and not moving and he missed a whole clip trying to shoot him, it was hysterical. Mister Fister fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Sep 7, 2017 |
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Sep 7, 2017 20:37
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squad game, ended up 5 players left and a small circle in an open field with no buildings. 4 of us alive. 1 enemy. He kills us all. A most shameful way to go to bed hungry, with only dreams of chicken.
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Sep 7, 2017 20:49
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buckets of buckets posted:No you're not whooshing but I could've sworn it didn't. Probably because weapon leaning on cover doesn't exist/is hosed Bipods in this game "deploy" when you go prone rather than having a dedicated button for them
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Sep 7, 2017 20:50
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The AFKs are out of control, me and my buddies were just playing in games that were like 25 left before the first circle closed.
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Sep 7, 2017 21:32
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Shima Honnou posted:The AFKs are out of control, me and my buddies were just playing in games that were like 25 left before the first circle closed. I stayed til the end of the plane ride 3 games in a row to test this and there was max 5 afk dudes including myself so either this is a NA thing or solo FPP isn't the game mode they choose.
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Sep 7, 2017 21:36
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This just in: All of the FPP love is confirmation bias of having no MMR, not playing against rank chasers and massive amounts of AFKs. If you're saying to yourself "I just do better in FPP, we top 10 every time", here's your reason why. You're still garbage, and this is why KDR is the only metric to give you any type of indication on how well you're doing.
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Sep 7, 2017 21:36
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VulgarandStupid posted:This just in: All of the FPP love is confirmation bias of having no MMR, not playing against rank chasers and massive amounts of AFKs. If you're saying to yourself "I just do better in FPP, we top 10 every time", here's your reason why. You're still garbage, and this is why KDR is the only metric to give you any type of indication on how well you're doing. Nah, you can play much more aggressively without everyone third person camera cheesing. Flanking is actually effective. e: and Pochinki is for turd-assed fuckbois
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Sep 7, 2017 21:40
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I prefer first person and don't particularly care about stats one way or the other. When they come in, nice, until then, whatever, I'm still gonna play first person because it lets me do things like reposition when I force someone behind cover instead of sitting behind a tree or house until a third team walks by to end the stalemate.
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Sep 7, 2017 21:47
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willroc7 posted:Nah, you can play much more aggressively without everyone third person camera cheesing. Flanking is actually effective. Alternatively you can camp more effectively in fpp, because people can't 3pp to check if you are waiting for them.
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Sep 7, 2017 21:49
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First person is the real way to play this game. They have so many other realistic things in this game, and then they offer you third person, where you basically have 360 degree eyeballs constantly. FPP forever.
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Sep 7, 2017 21:51
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I'm going to play first person until stats come and then I'll have to do custom games or something so that no one can find out how bad I am.
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Sep 7, 2017 21:52
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VulgarandStupid posted:This just in: All of the FPP love is confirmation bias of having no MMR, not playing against rank chasers and massive amounts of AFKs. If you're saying to yourself "I just do better in FPP, we top 10 every time", here's your reason why. You're still garbage, and this is why KDR is the only metric to give you any type of indication on how well you're doing. What if you have a super low third person Elo but do well in FPP? Also like mentioned, not being able to corner cheese. I still mostly play third person because that's what everyone else plays so I need to get good at it. I can also use the free camera to scan and get used to spotting. First person feels more tense and I really like it. Counterpoint to KDR being all that matters: I average over 1 kill per game when dropping at school, but I'm garbage.
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Sep 7, 2017 21:52
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FPP has less FOV than a real person does. Are we playing for realism or fun? I'm fine with people liking first person better, but realism is not a good reason to me.
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Sep 7, 2017 21:53
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Caring about KDR in a Soviet bush simulator is dumb and you are a lame person.
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Sep 7, 2017 21:54
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FPP leader boards are coming soon so we'll see if VulgarandStupid's right, I doubt it. All the top TPP players are pro CS:GO players. If anything, more people will play FPP if there's an incentive to climb a leader board.
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Sep 7, 2017 22:00
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I am excited for FPP leaderboards because all the AFKs make the mid game boring, can't find people to kill in so many games. The AFK bots will quickly drop to garbage rank and I will never see them again.
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VulgarandStupid posted:This just in: All of the FPP love is confirmation bias of having no MMR, not playing against rank chasers and massive amounts of AFKs. If you're saying to yourself "I just do better in FPP, we top 10 every time", here's your reason why. You're still garbage, and this is why KDR is the only metric to give you any type of indication on how well you're doing. it's actually the opposite. i've only ever got chicken dindins in 3PP.
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cosmicjim posted:FPP has less FOV than a real person does. Are we playing for realism or fun? I'm fine with people liking first person better, but realism is not a good reason to me. It's nothing to do with realism and everything to do with "guy that is 100% hidden behind a wall can nevertheless see over it perfectly". TPP is dumb as hell. e: "It's just a different kind of skill!" Nope, dumb. lack of leaderboards is the only thing stopping FPP being the default game mode. NtotheTC fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Sep 7, 2017 |
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KDR is insanely pointless. When I'm not teamkilling people at school I'm quite effective, but I spend so much time doing stupid poo poo for fun that it's not reflected in the stats at all.
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Sep 7, 2017 22:10
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the number one streamer on twitch is a former cs pro that only plays fpp. only asian streamers seem to still play 3pp, probably due to being bad at shooters.
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Sep 7, 2017 22:13
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They need to release a mode where I can go 3pp and everyone else is locked to 1pp. That'd be the best I think.
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Trabisnikof posted:They need to release a mode where I can go 3pp and everyone else is locked to 1pp. That'd be the best I think. Real pros play the mode where they're locked to FPP and everyone else is 3PP.
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Sep 7, 2017 22:20
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Shima Honnou posted:Real pros play the mode where they're locked to FPP and everyone else is 3PP. Everyone else is 3pp, you're eyeballs and hair the first two seconds of 1pp
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Sep 7, 2017 22:22
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A mode where everyone is just eyes and hair at all times, bringing both bush hiding and headshots to a new level.
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Sep 7, 2017 22:26
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Makes me sad how bad random squads are now compared to a few months ago. RIParino
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cosmicjim posted:FPP has less FOV than a real person does. Are we playing for realism or fun? I'm fine with people liking first person better, but realism is not a good reason to me. I like FPP because TPP encourages turtling and that is the a not-fun part of this game. With FPP I have a shot bull-rushing someone up stairs and people actually have to put themselves in harm's way to peek around a tree. It isn't realism, it just helps fix one part of the game's risk/reward structure.
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NtotheTC posted:It's nothing to do with realism and everything to do with "guy that is 100% hidden behind a wall can nevertheless see over it perfectly". TPP is dumb as hell. Exactly. Defense always has a slight advantage but TPP turns certain situations in to "if defense isn't useless with a gun they've already won before the other party knows they're there". It also basically guarantees Mexican standoffs when both parties have small amounts of cover. Whoever moves first probably dies if the other party is any good.
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When 3rd was the only option you better believe I abused the gently caress out of that poo poo right down to pre-firing while rounding a corner against some poor sap who won't be able to defend against it. It's that kinda poo poo I don't want anyone to have the option to do easily, myself included. Actually, especially myself because I'm a dick who will abuse the gently caress out of it.
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