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4ground is doing a summer sale; 20% off if you use the code SUM20. I'd recommend their 15mm stuff, haven't seen their 28mm. They have some modern, fantasy and steampunk stuff as well.
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Xenolalia posted:Hey there, I want to buy some models to represent ZIPRA forces. I saw the link to the peter pig site but I was wondering about any other options?
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Wowshawk posted:Yeah, had a bit of a brainfart there. Unfortunately it's 28mm according to the site! But nice paintjob, I tried to (badly) use it on my own models. Really. It's the easiest paint job. Three colours. Stripes and dots. Super lazy.
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That's what I thought when I started painting again after x amount of years, but for the moment I can't seem to get a crisp result like that.
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Getting such even coverage and crisp lines is only easy once you're good enough to do it consistently. Like walking and wiping your rear end, it is really tricky for people who haven't been doing it for years.
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I don't try for crisp lines. I use Vallejo and italeri paints and just paint it on. Then hit it with a an army painter strong tone wash. I dilute down my wash 1:1 with my brush water. Researching ww2 paint jobs says most were done by the units with fencing brushes or even rags on sticks. If it looks sloppy it's authentic.
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Lol, just lol, if you haven’t installed dimmers to discreetly hide the fact that you’re deploying one of your more badly painted armies.
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lilljonas posted:Lol, just lol, if you haven’t installed dimmers to discreetly hide the fact that you’re deploying one of your more badly painted armies.
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90s Cringe Rock posted:It's called cider. Currently reading a book on Napoleon’s march on Moscow. Witnesses say that they were so covered in dust during the summer that they couldn’t tell armies apart. So just spray your army in a light mud colour and call it done.
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lilljonas posted:Currently reading a book on Napoleon’s march on Moscow. Witnesses say that they were so covered in dust during the summer that they couldn’t tell armies apart. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nouLQZCXW4A I just received the new Flames of War Enemy at the Gates/Cross of Iron books in the mail. I was pretty turned off by 4th Edition, but I may have to break out the Soviets/Germans for a game now.
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lilljonas posted:Lol, just lol, if you haven’t installed dimmers to discreetly hide the fact that you’re deploying one of your more badly painted armies. 
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Cessna posted:I just received the new Flames of War Enemy at the Gates/Cross of Iron books in the mail. I was pretty turned off by 4th Edition, but I may have to break out the Soviets/Germans for a game now. Yep, the store demo copy has been a surprisingly good read. The new fiction segments are a little bad, but, I don't think there's many games with amazing fiction.
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A book on camouflage I read said they used to cover their tanks in mud not paint it.
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Yes, that was done. It wasn't common, but it happened:
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My Hot Tip for mud in 15mm is to use GW's Typhus Corrosion.
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Is it the correct shade of mud though?
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I was actually really chuffed when I was in Paris to realise that the mud colour I used for my FoW Early War British was actually the right shade of brown for the area. Sheer luck.
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Arquinsiel posted:I was actually really chuffed when I was in Paris to realise that the mud colour I used for my FoW Early War British was actually the right shade of brown for the area. Sheer luck. That would be 21st century mud. Have you accounted for the change in mud colour caused by climate change, air pollution, season, etc ?
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Yeah, it might be the right mud for today, but is it the proper mud color for Paris in July of 1942?
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Conveniently it probably was due to soil rotation.
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https://twitter.com/EnglishRussia1/status/1032631432513024000
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What color were Jerry Cans because grey doesnt look right
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Phi230 posted:What color were Jerry Cans because grey doesnt look right All of them
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They were whatever color of paint the kleptocratic shitstorm that the Nazis called an economy had looted that week.
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Probably whatever paint you want, but from olive-drab.com: "British cans of WW II vintage will be painted with the khaki or tan sand color of British equipment while the German cans will be dark green or sand color. Water cans were sometimes painted with a white cross as an additional precaution against mixing."
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Finished a Panzer III for WaT and just got a new camera. Might as well combine the two     
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Are there any good 28mm Streltsy? I'm considering a project to expand my ranges that way.
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Fish and Chimps posted:Finished a Panzer III for WaT and just got a new camera. Might as well combine the two 15mm? Love the black lining. Are you using oil paint + white spirit for panel lines?
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Commissar Kip posted:15mm? Yes, it's 15mm Battlefront plastic. It's regular black wash for the surfaces and a brown pin wash for recesses.
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So I have 36 modern infantry soldiers in 28mm coming my way next week. What good games can I play with them? I'm looking forward to getting them painted up but it'd be good to actually have something to do with them at the end.
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Lupercalcalcal posted:So I have 36 modern infantry soldiers in 28mm coming my way next week. Spectre Operations is outstanding for moderns at 28mm. The beta rules are still floating around on the internet, but the 1st edition is different enought that it's worth eventually picking up. Also, depending on the models themselve, Skirmish Sangin which has a bit of crunch to it, is also pretty good.
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Worst On Team posted:Spectre Operations is outstanding for moderns at 28mm. The beta rules are still floating around on the internet, but the 1st edition is different enought that it's worth eventually picking up. Should have thought of Spectre. I'll grab a copy off Steve when I see him next.
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There's also Force on Force and No End in Sight. I think Osprey also has a Black Ops book, possibly named Black Ops.
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JcDent posted:There's also Force on Force and No End in Sight. Yep! Black Ops is cool, but it works better as a Metal Gear Solid simulator than as a traditional skirmish game, IMO. It has a lot of really fun solo rules that set it apart from the standard Force on Force style skirmish, and a bunch of support for stealth scenarios.
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So, with my copy of Enemy at the Gates safely in my hands, I can say I'm liking it. The full strelk option might actually get played! I'm unsure exactly why they didn't do greatcoat infantry, but I guess it's easier to have them pull double duty with summer infantry for Kursk and maybe do winter inf as a late war book or something. The command cards are a mix of options that could've been in the book, interesting stuff, and stuff that makes me scratch my head. None of the cards seem amazing to the point where you'd be stupid not to take them, but I can see myself using the scout company or the NKVD battalion lists and tank riders might be interesting (I'd have to test them). Fresh From the Factory and Unstoppable seem fun. I don't get why Infantry Guns weren't in the book. Volley Fire seems kind of useless. Unkillable and Kill One More are, confusingly, the same card but one's KV only and one's T-34 only; why they didn't make some other card and just have one of those applicable to either I don't know. The really baffling one is Blocking Detachment, where, if a unit fails a motivation check, you have to have the MG section with the card fire on it if it can, automatically passing firepower checks. Then roll a d6 and add it to the hits, and if you get 10 or more, you pass the check. Bluntly, this is absolutely brutal and is liable to decimate units given an MG company has 6 dice, of which 2/3 will hit. With the big blobs of infantry with 4+ saves, this is a lot of dead guys, and with the hero company with even smaller platoon sizes it's even worse. It's 0 points and I question whether it's worth being that expensive. If it was "if you want" or if you could protect units from it, it might be worthwhile, but as it is it seems like it's just an excellent way to throw away a dozen stands. RAW, it also pins you, which puts you in a nice loop of getting shot to poo poo to unpin, then making you get shot to poo poo again. It's just bafflingly bad.
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What are cards in FoW? Is it some new FoW4 thing?
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Phi230 posted:What color were Jerry Cans because grey doesnt look right any, just rub some mud on it. Fish and Chimps posted:Finished a Panzer III for WaT and just got a new camera. Might as well combine the two nawww, cute.
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spectralent posted:The command cards are a mix of options that could've been in the book, I bought the book, but not the cards. Am I to understand I don't have all of the lists or units available for my army?
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