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Plan Z posted:How about give him that insane damage dropoff with pistols where it takes like twenty rounds to kills someone? Then they guy that should be behind Montagne/Blitz does what you usually do to Tachanka. It doesn't work.
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Want easy kills at an objective? Stand outside a window with a shield and just pick off everyone in the room. Cant flank, cant shoot legs, so its a turkey shoot. Just line up and ADS instant HS. Anyone tries to rush up on you that can have nitro, just back up. Rinse, repeat. Also, recruit and shield is a great option since you can carry frags as well as picking your handgun.
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Jan 6, 2016 06:02
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Having a recruit with frags and a shield almost feels like cheating. Almost. 
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Jan 6, 2016 06:33
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Smelly posted:Having a recruit with frags and a shield almost feels like cheating. Yea I love that class setup. Nobody expects the frag from a shield carrier.
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Jan 6, 2016 08:13
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Kanish posted:Want easy kills at an objective? Stand outside a window with a shield and just pick off everyone in the room. Cant flank, cant shoot legs, so its a turkey shoot. Just line up and ADS instant HS. Anyone tries to rush up on you that can have nitro, just back up. Rinse, repeat. I usually rush the side of the window when that happens, forcing him to either come in or gently caress off. Liberatore posted:Glaz can shoot through shield visors. One of the only ways to teamkill! quote:Tachanka Just fix his inability to put down his loving MG where you want it first, then talk about making him more balanced, hell he cant even turn 360 with it like he does in his loving intro video (?).
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Jan 6, 2016 08:57
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Orv posted:It'd invalidate two characters because Tachanka's LMG is a two shot to the chest which means just aim at the middle of the shield and remove a character from their team, so no. Something should be done with Tachanka, but it isn't that. So? That means shield users can't just walk through levels easily anymore and teams will have another thing to look out for. If teams do look out for him then they can just do what they usually do and shoot him through a wall. It gives him a purpose as it gives another counter to shields that isn't reliant on a nade and he's still vulnerable to a team that actually scouts. What's not to like?
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Jan 6, 2016 14:36
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dogstile posted:So? That means shield users can't just walk through levels easily anymore and teams will have another thing to look out for. If teams do look out for him then they can just do what they usually do and shoot him through a wall. A lot, letting him shoot through the glass? Fine. letting him pen the entire shield? Thats lame and would make for bad gameplay and make the lovely character drastically overpowered.
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Jan 6, 2016 15:21
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Who needs a flashbang shield when blitz can just smoke an entire room, then sneak around with his shieldbuddy montagne, giving people the ravenshield.
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Jan 6, 2016 17:00
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Nalesh posted:Another thing that could skew it is that fuze doesn't need to use a shield, he has an assault rifle and an lmg too. and this is ubisoft so they probably didn't account for that. They did account for it. When they released the full infographic they said they ignored all the stats pertaining to fuze because he wasn't 100% a shield operator and also had the cluster bombs.
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Jan 6, 2016 19:23
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Nalesh posted:Who needs a flashbang shield when blitz can just smoke an entire room, then sneak around with his shieldbuddy montagne, giving people the ravenshield. For clarification, Nalesh and another teammate smoked up a hostage room, swung in and then beat three guys to death with their shields.
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Jan 6, 2016 19:43
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Man the matchmaking is even worse than normal tonight, got stuck on the stupid smoke screen several times in a row. I hope they fix this poo poo soon.
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Jan 6, 2016 22:55
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Popelmon posted:Man the matchmaking is even worse than normal tonight, got stuck on the stupid smoke screen several times in a row. I hope they fix this poo poo soon. Yeah, it was fine until later on then it started happening every time. Have the devs ever specifically mentioned this issue?
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Gunder posted:Yeah, it was fine until later on then it started happening every time. Have the devs ever specifically mentioned this issue? They've addressed the matchmaking issues in general. Stated they're being worked on but there are so many problems with it, they're eliminating them one by one.
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God drat on PS4 it's like I have to choose between not being able to shoot for poo poo or not being able to turn for poo poo (can't play on PC any more due to the carpal). What sensitivity settings are you guys using? I'm doing okay with 3 vertical 4 horizontal, 10-7 deadzone, 20 ADS. But still feelin like I can't get my head around fast enough to check behind me. Besides that, this piece of buggy and horrible and stupid matchmaking hell is like, the germ of a dream tactical shooter. I really hope the community takes off and they continue to support and tighten up this thing, because it is fun as fuuuuuuuck PSN is yellowjournalism and I'll be on later tonight to shewt dewds
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Dead Like Rev posted:A lot, letting him shoot through the glass? Fine. letting him pen the entire shield? Thats lame and would make for bad gameplay and make the lovely character drastically overpowered. I wasn't really a fan of the penetration idea to begin with. As far as the glass goes, it's way too much up to chance, much like (I feel) the same as the GSG 9 headshot thing. Just to throw something out for discussion, how about Tachanka doing a miniscule amount of damage to a character when hitting the shield, like a few HP per hit? Maybe so that a full magazine is barely enough to kill Blitz or something. This forces the shield to make a choice to fire back, or depend on his teammates to help. The only other thing I can think of that isn't useless or hard to implement would be to let him put the MG down in more places, or on top of objects like desks or deployable shields (obviously take away his ability to put them down if he has it; I forget if he does).
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I still feel like the wirelessly controlled MG thing sombody brought up a a while back would probably work best. You still have to deal with it being finicky and hard to place down but once you have it in place it could still tear poo poo up with no risk to Tachanka. Thatcher's EMP could counter and everything would be right with the world.
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I decided to give Recruit with Shield + Frags/Breaches a try after the discussion about Blitz being rear end. Went with FBI because the 5.7 is a great pistol not normally afforded to shields. Wtf its op??? Felt way easier to land headshots with the 5.7 vs Blitz & Montagnes pistols. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOId0rZghNo Also here is a bonus video showing the power of GLAZ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT1CdIF-I5I
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Jerkface posted:I decided to give Recruit with Shield + Frags/Breaches a try after the discussion about Blitz being rear end. Went with FBI because the 5.7 is a great pistol not normally afforded to shields. Wtf its op??? Felt way easier to land headshots with the 5.7 vs Blitz & Montagnes pistols. Nice clip man; as a big blitzer I've gotta give this a try.
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Jan 7, 2016 09:27
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Agreed, that looks hell'a fun!
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Blitz is the most fun. I ran into a player in the suburban basement, shieldflashed them, and mag-dumped into their butt as they blindly sprinted up the stairs into a barricade.
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New patch: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1368508-Patch-Notes-Update-1-2?s=d7f15c6b5e5b45a95cd5978e460e6f7c&p=11277924&viewfull=1#post11277924 Promises to fix some of the most common issues which is great, and makes the tick rate 60 on PC permanently.
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It feels like headshots are way to easy to get in this game. Does anyone else feel that way? If I just point near someone's head it's like a guaranteed headshot
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ROFLburger posted:It feels like headshots are way to easy to get in this game. Does anyone else feel that way? If I just point near someone's head it's like a guaranteed headshot There is no spread when you ADS, so if you point you kill. I don't think the headshot mechanic is a bad thing but that's a hill I'm not particularly eager to die on.
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Is there a good place or comprehensive resource to catch up on strategy for maps or operators? Trying to play some catch up when I'm not at the console because I haven't logged much time online at all yet.
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Give Tachanka's MG more ammo and ammo cap. If Fuze can have 100 round belts, so should Tachanka's. My favorite thing to do is shoot out all the internal walls on the first floor, if the objective is on the second floor. Attacked get really confused, and either get overly cautious which wastes their time or oblivious to all the holes and they can get picked by rosters easily.
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The Saboteur posted:Is there a good place or comprehensive resource to catch up on strategy for maps or operators? Trying to play some catch up when I'm not at the console because I haven't logged much time online at all yet. The serenity17 youtube channel has excellent guides for most operator and some maps
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Update 1.2 Patch NotesUbisoft posted:General Tweaks and Improvements
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Orv posted:There is no spread when you ADS, so if you point you kill. Really? I didn't know this; there's still bullet drop at least right? The reason I ask, last night I tried to shoot a camera from a good distance ADS with an smg and couldn't kill it for the life of me even though I was aiming directly at it.
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Anderron Shi posted:Really? I didn't know this; there's still bullet drop at least right? The reason I ask, last night I tried to shoot a camera from a good distance ADS with an smg and couldn't kill it for the life of me even though I was aiming directly at it. I don't know about bullet drop, but at long distances you're basically trying to be pixel-accurate when almost none of the sights are good enough for that. I presume that wasn't the case but if you shoot a camera from an elevated position, you end up hitting the post rather than the camera itself.
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I don't think there is bullet drop in this at all. I haven't tested it but if there was bullet drop I should probably be missing far away camera more.
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Sometimes i perfectly shoot the cameras dead on from a mile away with a pistol, and sometimes no matter where I aim the camera refused to die. I once shot point blank at a camera and the bullet hole appeared like 2 feet above my gun sight. Sometimes bullets do weird things. Theres no bullet drop or theres not enough for it to ever be a consideration. There is only damage drop off.
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Pretty sure the bullets are all hitscan with no bullet drop. Some of the sights are not exactly accurate though, for example, the Russian ACOG sight is set slightly too high and the bullet actually hits below the dot.
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Who needs bullets when you have shield bashing. (Speaking of which, where is the video of me bashing the hell out of the enemy team, person I forgot the name of  )
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Jan 7, 2016 23:42
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They should let you jump in this game
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Jerkface posted:I decided to give Recruit with Shield + Frags/Breaches a try after the discussion about Blitz being rear end. Went with FBI because the 5.7 is a great pistol not normally afforded to shields. Wtf its op??? Felt way easier to land headshots with the 5.7 vs Blitz & Montagnes pistols. That kind of win would never happen on console, aiming is way too twitchy and tough to get those snap headshots. Nice clip though!
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Covert Ops Wizard posted:That kind of win would never happen on console, aiming is way too twitchy and tough to get those snap headshots. Nice clip though! it is on console  The 5.7 is really bad though. Sure, it has a huge mag, but it does like 9 damage with body shots. Dezztroy fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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Orv posted:There is no spread when you ADS, so if you point you kill. I don't think the headshot mechanic is a bad thing but that's a hill I'm not particularly eager to die on. I only notice the headshots when I feel like I can dump way too many rounds centre-mass before someone can quick-spin and headshot me with hipfire. But like you, it's not a hill for me.
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Dezztroy posted:The 5.7 is really bad though. Sure, it has a huge mag, but it does like 9 damage with body shots. If you're using a shield and not aiming for headshots, you're not using the shield right. You're not going to out-DPS an SMG or AR with pistol bodyshots.
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Nalesh posted:Who needs bullets when you have shield bashing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGcAZXVJYlU We might have won but you were a little too committed to the gimmick in a pretty bad way, you should have planted and then you could have stood, stalwart, in the fireplace.
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