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aware of dog posted:To go back to this tweet for a second: I think you are really badly overestimating Trump's understanding of semantics. TAXATION EDIT: 
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Calaveron posted:So what kind of day is today it's Ivanka's birthday
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Oct 30, 2017 16:54
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I assume these hearings are behind closed doors right?
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Shifty Pony posted:I mean I want him gone too but is "Hey let's not actually have Trump meet with these people that would look really bad" illegal? Well, the way I read it was not that they didn't want Trump meeting with the Russian government because it was illegal, but rather they did it to not send "a message" which may be saying that they didn't want the Russian government to think they were extremely important to the whole situation, yet still considering the Russian support to be important.
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There is going to be enough spin going on in Washington today that it could cover the world's electricity needs for a decade at least.
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Crows Turn Off posted:Nobody knows. I mean I’m sure this isn’t the first time the FBI has arrested people for money laundering or conspiracy or whatever. I was asking from experience what are the next steps here.
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My favourite thing about this is the apostrophe. High Ranking Official is so loving dumb they don't even understand basic grammar.
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Manafort and his buddy are headed for arraignment, and will have initial bond set. They won't plead guilty or not guilty, their counsel will enter appearance, and then the case will be set over for a scheduling hearing.
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evilweasel posted:no, definitely not, im just hoping Well at the very least if that person was Sessions this pretty much completely prevents Sessions from un-recusing himself from anything remotely related to the investigation.
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Randbrick posted:Manafort and his buddy are headed for arraignment, and will have initial bond set. They won't plead guilty or not guilty, their counsel will enter appearance, and then the case will be set over for a scheduling hearing. I wonder what bail is for this kind of charge. I can't imagine that Manafort has that much cash lying around.
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Calaveron posted:So what kind of day is today It's the day where a bunch of idiots look at a legal document without knowing how to parse what's actually written, before jumping to whatever conclusion best fits their own world view.
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Wait, I thought Erick Erickson was that RedState never-trumper? Has he flipped to the pro-Trump column?
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DreamShipWrecked posted:I wonder what bail is for this kind of charge. I can't imagine that Manafort has that much cash lying around. Any judge who grants Manafort or the other guy bail is either the most monumental idiot in American history or a complicit Republican. They might as well walk around with sandwich boards labeled “flight risk.”
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Oct 30, 2017 16:59
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““President Trump is not the person who I wanted to be in that office, and I’ve been very open about that. That being said, he is the president,”” No, gently caress you.
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dwarf74 posted:Wait, I thought Erick Erickson was that RedState never-trumper? Has he flipped to the pro-Trump column?
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Lightning Knight posted:Any judge who grants Manafort or the other guy bail is either the most monumental idiot in American history or a complicit Republican. Why even surrender then? They could have just skipped town without all the pomp and circumstance, either way they would be fugitives.
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Julio Cruz posted:My favourite thing about this is the apostrophe. High Ranking Official is so loving dumb they don't even understand basic grammar. So it's Bannon?
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theflyingorc posted:Didn't we, uh, all do that? He was helped by foreign actors. Without their assistance he had no loving chance. THEY underestimated the effect they were going to have.
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dwarf74 posted:Wait, I thought Erick Erickson was that RedState never-trumper? Has he flipped to the pro-Trump column? He’s still a conservative and he wants those sweet tax cuts. His criticism of Trump is that he’s not conservative enough. Also, today readers were surprised to learn that rich old white man Bryan Cranston has bad opinions. Who would’ve thought? And really, who cares? Those are pretty low-grade bad opinions and he isn’t actually politically important so whatever.
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dwarf74 posted:Wait, I thought Erick Erickson was that RedState never-trumper? Has he flipped to the pro-Trump column? The Papadopoulos thing, and this whole investigation in general, is a threat to a lot of people and not just Trump.
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Chilichimp posted:He was helped by foreign actors. Without their assistance he had no loving chance. THEY underestimated the effect they were going to have. Kinda like the class idiot that cheats and gets 100% on the test...looks suspicious as gently caress and someone is going to look into it. If hed gone for scraping a pass...no one bats an eyelid.
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Calaveron posted:So what kind of day is today Today is a sword day... a red day... ere the sun rises! Ride now!... Ride now!... Ride! Ride to ruin and the world's ending! Death! Death! Death! Death! DEATH! (note to Secret Service: I am not calling for the death of anyone. I am quoting a movie.)
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Those tweets this morning didn't do it for me though. Didn't someone say something about a press conference at 1pm EST today?
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Why even surrender then? They could have just skipped town without all the pomp and circumstance, either way they would be fugitives. Could be a number of reasons. First, they were probably being monitored by the FBI and concluded brokering a deal was better than risking a violent confrontation. Second, if they make it out to some Eastern European or Latin American country, they become the CIA’s problem, and given the choice I’d rather deal with the FBI personally. That’s just conjecture on my end, but if they made bail I would immediately expect them to head straight for a private plane to Moscow.
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Oh ew. As an aside, there is someone from Trump's camp (Steve Rogers) on CNN talking about how this should be about Hillary, and you can hear everyone off camera laughing at him. That was pretty loving hilarious if anyone saw it. Even Not Captain America finally smiled at the end because he knew how dumb he sounded. Lightning Knight posted:Could be a number of reasons. First, they were probably being monitored by the FBI and concluded brokering a deal was better than risking a violent confrontation. Second, if they make it out to some Eastern European or Latin American country, they become the CIA’s problem, and given the choice I’d rather deal with the FBI personally. Also, there would have been tremendous pressure put on his family, if that were to happen. They were saying this morning they are already dipping into the finances of his daughters and his wife - it'd be even worse if he ran. Now having said that, if I recall correctly, back when his daughters were texting and it went public, they were talking about what a scumbag he was for cheating on their mom so openly. So maybe he doesn't even care about his family. Agent Burt Macklin fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Oct 30, 2017 |
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Exactly the sort of West Wing bullshit we don't need. What the gently caress is the value of respecting the ~office~ if it's held by a senile racist.
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I get that he's really trying to say that in theory nobody should want to see whoever the POTUS is fail, but at the same time, it's not a good look because it implies he's had good ideas in office. He hasn't.
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Can't Trump just say "there was no collusion, we need to move on so I'm firing Mueller, here's a bunch of pardons"?
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There was supposedly a mystery 3rd indictment dropping today, but the special prosecutors office has said no more are dropping. Then I read this: https://twitter.com/anniekarni/status/924699698509832192 "unannounced trip" scale of 1-10, how hosed is Kushner?
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FizFashizzle posted:Grassley has already said they won't hold hearings, which is why they've technically not gone out of session this year so trump can't recess appoint. Though I know there's always a bit of this sort of thing, that they're so adamant about it with someone from their own party shows how much trust they put in the guy.
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Kelly posted:Oh ew. This I think https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/925028891357351936
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People really need to get over this President = Royalty poo poo. They're politicians with policy objectives. When those objectives are bad for the country, hoping for their failure is entirely in-bounds. Can we please go Parliamentary after Germany ends up bombing and then liberating us?
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Finally catching up and I see infrastructure week is off to a cracking start
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Faustian Bargain posted:Can't Trump just say "there was no collusion, we need to move on so I'm firing Mueller, here's a bunch of pardons"? He could, yeah. The Republicans would probably back him. What that does to their polling numbers is a mystery. 
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Chilichimp posted:There was supposedly a mystery 3rd indictment dropping today, but the special prosecutors office has said no more are dropping. Then I read this: We had three. Manafort, gates and the 'surprise' plea.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Why even surrender then? They could have just skipped town without all the pomp and circumstance, either way they would be fugitives. They were definitely being surveilled and would have been cuffed and perp walked if they did anything other than get in a car and drive to the FBI field office.
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