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angryhampster posted:Elon Musk just announced that Tesla drivetrains are now warrantied for life. 8 years seems like a far cry from "life". vvv It is, 8 years/Infinite miles Q_res fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Aug 16, 2014 |
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I think its 8 years and unlimited miles
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Aug 16, 2014 02:31
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Hog Obituary posted:I think its 8 years and unlimited miles Unlimited miles = the first mile after 2922 days
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Aug 16, 2014 02:35
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Hog Obituary posted:I think its 8 years and unlimited miles Yep my bad I got excited and misquoted.
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Aug 16, 2014 03:03
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They could probably make a unibody ranger with 1200lb bed capacity and 3000lb towing capacity and sell well. I got my 97 ranger and handles plenty for me, daily driver, and lets me keep my 350z low miiles. Never really have any problems with it and if anything goes bad the parts are all $50 or less it seems.
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Aug 16, 2014 03:08
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Christobevii3 posted:They could probably make a unibody ranger with 1200lb bed capacity and 3000lb towing capacity and sell well. I got my 97 ranger and handles plenty for me, daily driver, and lets me keep my 350z low miiles. Never really have any problems with it and if anything goes bad the parts are all $50 or less it seems. Uh dude, but how on earth is a 1200lb bed going to be enough for my monthly trips to Home Depot? And the 3000lb towing capacity is going to be way too little for the 25 foot sailboat I thought about purchasing one day.
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Aug 16, 2014 03:26
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Edit - nevermind already posted
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Aug 16, 2014 04:55
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angryhampster posted:Elon Musk just announced that Tesla drivetrains are now warrantied for life. I swear a Tesla is on my car buying future
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Aug 16, 2014 06:33
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I'm firmly in the internal combustion camp, but Elon Musk is such a likeable Bond villain that I wouldn't mind buying a Tesla
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Aug 16, 2014 12:17
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Powershift posted:http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/613497286/overview/ Holy poo poo. They still make cars with roll down windows? E: Also, at this point how does it make any financial sense for them to differentiate the radios in these things? It probably costs more to make a base radio and one with a cd player than just to mass produce some of the latter. travisray2004 fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Aug 16, 2014 |
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Aug 16, 2014 16:00
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travisray2004 posted:Holy poo poo. They still make cars with roll down windows? It probably did cost more 20 years ago when they initially made the radios.
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Aug 16, 2014 16:26
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travisray2004 posted:Holy poo poo. They still make cars with roll down windows? Ford's big enough that they probably have a modular radio they pull off the shelves, and they just redirect one of the "parts hoses" appropriately. I think that was one of the benefits of their "world car" proposal too - if you have world cars you can make some real penalty box choices to save a few bucks but still pull them off well since the installed base is so huge. While we're on the subject, the Canadian-spec Micra ($9998 new MSRP) is a really weird gutted car. Base model has roll-up windows, 15" steelies, manual locks, no cruise, no air-con, no keyless entry, no passenger-side holy poo poo handle, no height adjustment or armrest on the drivers' seat, only has a 41 litre gas tank, but it rings in at 2302 lb dry. All models have a HR16DE 1.6L four banger that's so understressed it can only make 109 horsepower from a sixteen valve dual overhead cam head. If you kick another five grand into Nissan's kitty, you get all that poo poo plus colour GPS, Bluetooth, backup camera, 16" alloys and keyless start. I feel like some of the decisions on the base model car are almost to convey an atmosphere of fiduciary responsibility in the same way that devoted Catholics flog themselves. I have to admit I like the little bastard, but all the ones I've seen on the street are a lot uglier than in photos. http://www.nissan.ca/en/cars/micra/versions-specs.html Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Aug 16, 2014 |
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Aug 16, 2014 17:12
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I don't know about the latest models but Mazda had something called the FMS radio since 99 or so where the internals are common across the models and have common connectors. The only difference is the faceplate.
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Aug 16, 2014 17:28
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Hog Obituary posted:I think its 8 years and unlimited miles Reminds me of when I worked for a Dodge dealership back in the late nineties and they would sell used cars with a "100,000 MILE WARRANTY"* *(or 6 months, whichever comes first)
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Aug 16, 2014 18:15
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Keep in mind that they had to do this because the drive units keep making GBS threads themselves at alarming rates and people would start to freak out sooner or later.
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Aug 16, 2014 19:49
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mobby_6kl posted:Keep in mind that they had to do this because the drive units keep making GBS threads themselves at alarming rates and people would start to freak out sooner or later. Warrantying them now though means they're working toward a solution.
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Aug 16, 2014 20:00
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Instead of covering their ears and eyes and pretending it doesn't exist and no one else is having the problem wow what a strange occurrence, that will be $5,000 to fix sorry.
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Aug 16, 2014 20:56
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In the world of 707HP Dodges etc., the new Peugeot 308 probably isn't very interesting. But it will probably be my next car, when I have to retire the 406 some day. It comes with a range of gas (3-cylinder turbo 1.2L, up to 130hp) and diesel (1.6L, up to 150hp) engines that all do better than 4.6L/100KM. And through some strange French black magic, the rear swallows 100L more than the larger 508 SW. Of course, it has all the usual gadgets, but it also has full LED lighting as an option, which is still pretty cool on something that isn't a supercar.   
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Aug 16, 2014 21:32
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On some of the earlier transit connect chat, I've seen a few over the past couple of days and the short wheelbase ones actually don't look bad. Are they planning any more drivetrain options or is it just the 2 that are already out?
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Aug 16, 2014 22:07
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you can get it in the uk with the 1.0 ecoboost or 1.6 diesel, but i doubt we'll see either of those any time soon.
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Aug 16, 2014 22:17
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KozmoNaut posted:In the world of 707HP Dodges etc., the new Peugeot 308 probably isn't very interesting. But it will probably be my next car, when I have to retire the 406 some day. Are those horribly unreliable? Do they have a habit of trying to kill you suddenly? That looks far too sensible for AI. 
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Aug 16, 2014 22:42
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HotCanadianChick posted:Are those horribly unreliable? Do they have a habit of trying to kill you suddenly? That looks far too sensible for AI. HotCanadianChick posted:Are those horribly unreliable? KozmoNaut posted:Peugeot Hope this helps. 
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Aug 16, 2014 22:46
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angryhampster posted:Warrantying them now though means they're working toward a solution. More like they think they're working towards a solution. Or else they know they won't be around in 8 years when the investor cash dries up.
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Aug 16, 2014 23:35
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Powershift posted:you can get it in the uk with the 1.0 ecoboost or 1.6 diesel, but i doubt we'll see either of those any time soon. That's what I figured. That thing would be a lot of fun with a good diesel or the Focus ST engine and some AWD. Perfect for driving repeatedly to Colorado during snowboard season kind of fun.
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Aug 17, 2014 03:17
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fknlo posted:That's what I figured. That thing would be a lot of fun with a good diesel or the Focus ST engine and some AWD. Perfect for driving repeatedly to Colorado during snowboard season kind of fun. It's on the same platform as the lincoln MKC, which uses the 2.3 ecoboost out of the mustang, and is awd. A 300hp awd transit connect would be the best minivan ever.
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Aug 17, 2014 03:23
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Powershift posted:It's on the same platform as the lincoln MKC, which uses the 2.3 ecoboost out of the mustang, and is awd. See, that's what I'm talking about. That kind of combo would definitely be in play for my next car purchase.
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Aug 17, 2014 03:29
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Lame rear end ford build and price won't let you option the full size transit with the ecoboost and 4.10 rear end  How am i supposed to run 12s in a cargo van with 3.73s 
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Aug 17, 2014 03:38
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HotCanadianChick posted:Are those horribly unreliable? Do they have a habit of trying to kill you suddenly? That looks far too sensible for AI. I think they are reliable in regards to the engine and drivetrain, but it's more the trim falling to pieces where most French cars get their bad reliability from
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Aug 17, 2014 03:43
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Powershift posted:
By getting an old RHD Grumman from Canada Post and swapping the Duke out for an LQ4.
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Aug 17, 2014 04:21
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From reading (among other things) a swedish car mags long term test of the 3008, it seems to be Peugeots first really solid car in both real and experienced quality. The 308 is hopefully carrying on that tradition. They still can't rust proof them for poo poo though. This is the left front door of a three year old 3008, and the same car has already had both rear doors replaced because of the exact same problem the year before. Yes, two year old doors with bubbles from corrosion.
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Aug 17, 2014 04:30
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HotCanadianChick posted:Are those horribly unreliable? Do they have a habit of trying to kill you suddenly? That looks far too sensible for AI. Like Ford and Mazda, Peugeot can make even their most basic everyday cars handle well and be fun to drive. They've also made some of the best hot hatches/compacts ever made (205 GTI/T16, 405 Mi16/T16, 306 GTI6 etc.). They had a bad period from around the early 2000s, with not-very-good cars like the 407, 207, 307, old 308 and so on, but I think it's fair to say they're back to form now with their latest models. Nidhg00670000 posted:From reading (among other things) a swedish car mags long term test of the 3008, it seems to be Peugeots first really solid car in both real and experienced quality. The 308 is hopefully carrying on that tradition. They still can't rust proof them for poo poo though. This is the left front door of a three year old 3008, and the same car has already had both rear doors replaced because of the exact same problem the year before. Yes, two year old doors with bubbles from corrosion. That really surprises me, since my 14-year-old 406 has basically no rust. There's some on the gas tank straps and a bit of surface rust on sway bars and brake backing plates, but nothing major at all. The body is completely rust-free, even where one of the front doors has rubbed on the frame of the rear door for a while (LOL French assembly quality), down to the bare metal. And I don't even think it's fully galvanized, most of it is just done with zink primer. I treat it to a full Dinitrol treatment every 2 years, hopefully that'll keep the rust from taking hold for another 14-15 years. RE: the 3008 (and possibly 308), "no additional rust-proofing by original owner" is already on my list of dealbreakers when looking at used cars. I learned that when I was looking at buying a Mazda 323 (Protege) or early Mazda 3. Goddamn those cars can rust.
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Nidhg00670000 posted:From reading (among other things) a swedish car mags long term test of the 3008, it seems to be Peugeots first really solid car in both real and experienced quality. The 308 is hopefully carrying on that tradition. They still can't rust proof them for poo poo though. This is the left front door of a three year old 3008, and the same car has already had both rear doors replaced because of the exact same problem the year before. Yes, two year old doors with bubbles from corrosion. As someone who deals with the parts before they get painted, let me explain. When parts are stamped out, a lot of times they get covered in oil and lube from the pressing (forming with those huge presses) and then sent on to paint after assembly. Most companies have people to check and clean those parts in between; as we do for certain Nissan and Ford parts. If they aren't checked, or just happen to slip by with a tiny bit of that oil still remaining, it will bubble the paint on newer cars. We do all we can to prevent that from happening, but once in a while a few will slip by even the most trained eye. Devyl fucked around with this message at 09:01 on Aug 17, 2014 |
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KozmoNaut posted:That really surprises me, since my 14-year-old 406 has basically no rust. Pug has always had a (well deserved) rep as quite the rust buckets here in Sweden at least, and my last three before the 106 (405, 405 Break, 306) all had car cancer when I sold them. The 306 was 8 yo when I bought it and 11 when I sold it, and by then the lower lip of both front doors had started swelling. I'd also refurbed the rear axle on both 405s, ungrateful bastards (not that that had anything to do with rust in the common sense). Devyl posted:As someone who deals with the parts before they get painted, let me explain. When parts are stamped out, a lot of times they get covered in oil and lube from the pressing (forming with those huge presses) and then sent on to paint after assembly. Most companies have people to check and clean those parts in between; as we do for certain Nissan and Ford parts. If they aren't checked, or just happen to slip by with a tiny bit of that oil still remaining, it will bubble the paint on newer cars. We do all we can to prevent that from happening, but once in a while a few will slip by even the most trained eye. Would this make for the kind of bubbles that don't start showing up until after a couple of years? This car was meticulously looked after which is why the owner actually spotted them (I don't look that closely on my cars), so they where detected pretty fast when they showed up.
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Nidhg00670000 posted:
It's possible that there was some moisture trapped in the folds of the door metal from manufacturing and it slowly just rusted itself to where it became visible. Either way it's more than likely a manufacturing defect, as it shouldn't be bubbling up at all, let alone that fast.
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Aug 17, 2014 22:29
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I've had rust bubbles like what Devyl suggests, but the "few years later" rust bubbles are usually trapped moisture, often because of bad seam sealing or a badly designed joint.
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Aug 17, 2014 22:33
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Has this been posted yet? http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/alfa-romeo/giulia/88203/new-alfa-romeo-giulia-gta-to-target-bmw-m3 Rear-drive Alfa w/ ~500 horsepower turbo V6 (fingers crossed)  Oh yeah, and the Giulia is finally taking shape. 
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Taaaaaaarb! posted:Has this been posted yet? That's just some photoshop special commissioned by the magazine. No photos have been published/leaked from Fiat/Alfa. However in may they did discuss their future engine range. Basically it is three turbo gasoline engines and two turbodiesels with varying outputs.  I'd guess: - 1.4 4 cyl, 120-180 hp (Fiat/Alfa 1.4 multiair) - 1.75 4 cyl, 170-330 hp (the 4C/Giulietta QV engine with different boost levels) - 3.0-4.0 6 cyl with 400-520 hp. (Ghibli has a 3.0 330-410 hp six, enlarged or more boost?)
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The 2015 Stingray's valet mode turns on the data logger, including dashcam: http://jalopnik.com/the-2015-corvette-turned-a-data-logger-into-the-best-va-1623397452 Hilarious and brilliant idea.
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I eagerly await the youtube videos that will provide.
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Guinness posted:I eagerly await the youtube videos that will provide. I'm thinking the scenes from "Ferris Bueller's" when the valets take Cameron's dad's Ferrari for a run
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