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Runbutton did a LP of Mario No Sweater, if you want to see nintendo's software side of that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXB9iQ1ZAQI
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Phanatic posted:I don't know that I ever did either. I mean, sure, it hammered a bunch but poo poo loaded and saved properly and that's all I cared about. But then I also had one of those IBM Deskstar 75GXP drives that were so famously faulty that they helped drive IBM out of the hard drive business, and *that* never failed on me either even though it did occasionally make noises like a dump truck full of loose change tumbling down a hill. When they named the NES in the domestic market "Famicom" they literally meant Family Computer. There was a decent amount of non-game software you could get for the Famicom, including several cartridges that were just knitting instructions for sweaters or socks or something. Here's a ebay auction for "business economics software" for the Famicom. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Family-Comp...=p2047675.l2557
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Part of that was that they were petrified by the video game crash of 1983, and so they wanted to present the NES as more than just a videogame machine. That's also the logic of why the US version looks like a VCR.
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It had a modem too, though it didn't really get released
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Not exactly on topic, but does anyone else watch Halt and Catch Fire? It's a fantastic show in its own right and gives me serious nostalgia about playing with early computers in my youth.
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Trabant posted:If you've got the time, here's a 38-minute video from a guy who revived nixie tube manufacturing: This is amazing. Nixie tubes are such a cool concept and they look fantastic. Also, holy poo poo this guy taught himself a lot of complicated concepts over the course of just a few years.
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Phanatic posted:The 1541 didn't just hammer during errors, it hammered intentionally. It had no way of detecting when the head was at track 0, so any command to send the head there resulted in the drive just moving the head 40 tracks over. So if it was on track 1 at the time, the head bounces off the hard stop 39 times! Thus my soft stops. It's been a while, so I have largely forgotten 1541 quirks, other than putting in a drive select switch.
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joshtothemaxx posted:Not exactly on topic, but does anyone else watch Halt and Catch Fire? It's a fantastic show in its own right and gives me serious nostalgia about playing with early computers in my youth.
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Collateral Damage posted:I watched the first season but I haven't gotten around to the later ones. Same. Is the problem that they didn't have a cliffhanger at the end of the first season? I don't remember how it ended now, and I only finished watching a few months ago. Normally I'd prefer to watch a documentary rather than a "period drama" based on fact, but it was pretty good.
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treiz01 posted:This is amazing. Nixie tubes are such a cool concept and they look fantastic. Also, holy poo poo this guy taught himself a lot of complicated concepts over the course of just a few years. I was thinking the same thing. That guy has a LOT of interesting equipment and must have a big bankroll to pay for the tooling. Also - I want a spot welder like that! Collateral Damage posted:I watched the first season but I haven't gotten around to the later ones. I think my favorite thing to take from the first season is that it doesn't matter how good your actual product is, it's all about marketing it right. It's a pretty cool show, each season seems to parallel certain moments in history. Season 1 is the rise of the IBM clone (including the whole reverse engineering of IBM BIOS). Season 2 is making a MUD. Season 3 is expanding on the MUD concept to bring in an ebay type concept and touching on creation of the World Wide Web.
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Yeah Halt and Catch fire is an interesting alternate reality take on the tech boom of the 80's. They've really gotten sharp with getting the details right and have on-set historians who are there to make sure things are plausible. What happens in the show was somewhat capable at the time and they try to keep things within a realm of possibilities. For instance they've recently done an early online store during a time when online credit card transactions were pretty much a thought bubble so they had to figure out how something could happen back then which was to use SWIFT numbers. Big writeup here about what goes into this. Big two parter with the set designer about re-creating the 80's/ which is harder than it sounds as unlike the 60/70's where things are made of wood and might just need new varnish to freshen up, the 80's were massively disposable and much of the stuff didn't keep as long. For instance one trick was having to buy lots of spray on brass as places don't do brass table legs anymore.
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Here’s one more article about vintage electronics for sets.
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A very interesting read! Now I'm convinced I should list a bunch of random crap I own on film/tv maker forums to use in shoots. To add content: A nice read on the creators of Grand Theft Auto. https://inews.co.uk/essentials/culture/gaming/grand-theft-auto-unlikely-roots-gaming-dma-design-gta/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYy69qOJWoM 
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Humphreys posted:It's a pretty cool show, each season seems to parallel certain moments in history. Season 1 is the rise of the IBM clone (including the whole reverse engineering of IBM BIOS). Season 2 is making a MUD. Season 3 is expanding on the MUD concept to bring in an ebay type concept and touching on creation of the World Wide Web. I can't watch most mock '80s shows because they look ridiculous to me, having lived through it. Stranger Things is doing a pretty good job but most everything else is so bad it's laughable. PBF sums it up: 
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Dick Trauma posted:I can't watch most mock '80s shows because they look ridiculous to me, having lived through it. Stranger Things is doing a pretty good job but most everything else is so bad it's laughable. Could be worse. Nukes did end WWII, and Nazi infantry really did lose to a cavalry charge (not quite under the conditions depicted).
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Boiled Water posted:Did you spreadsheet with the controller or how was it supposed to function? The Famicom in Japan had keyboard peripherals.
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I remember that movie. Don't try to re-watch it, it doesn't hold up well.
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Buttcoin purse posted:Same. Is the problem that they didn't have a cliffhanger at the end of the first season? I don't remember how it ended now, and I only finished watching a few months ago.
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Collateral Damage posted:Wasn't exactly a cliffhanger no, just leaving the door open. I think when they filmed the last episode they still didn't know if they were getting a second season. There's word they might try to do the anthology thing like American Horror Story with the same actors but new story/trope to follow. Personally I want the story to continue, the first season had a likable cast but from here on, it's only going to be more characters killed off. The music in it is great to.
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Woolie Wool posted:Quake 3/Quake Live players still do that and get pissed off when people tell them that it is strange. 125fps. Considering quake world was about a solid 72fps in 1995 and q3 was 125fps by early 2000s, I am sort of sad when people claim it doesn't matter
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impulse 7 effect posted:125fps. Considering quake world was about a solid 72fps in 1995 and q3 was 125fps by early 2000s, I am sort of sad when people claim it doesn't matter Quake speed doesn't matter to normal people.
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Humphreys posted:There's word they might try to do the anthology thing like American Horror Story with the same actors but new story/trope to follow. Personally I want the story to continue, the first season had a likable cast but from here on, it's only going to be more characters killed off. The music in it is great to. The anthology thing was only ever a rumor, as soon as there was talk of a second season the Duffer brothers said they were going to continue with the story and characters from season one. E: Apparently they've already started shooting season 2 the future is WOW has a new favorite as of 21:29 on Oct 8, 2016 |
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Jerry Cotton posted:Quake speed doesn't matter to normal people. Yeah, and yet they'll state that it doesn't matter at all.
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impulse 7 effect posted:Yeah, and yet they'll state that it doesn't matter at all. Now we're talking semantics.
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impulse 7 effect posted:125fps. Considering quake world was about a solid 72fps in 1995 and q3 was 125fps by early 2000s, I am sort of sad when people claim it doesn't matter Were there even monitors that could go over 60fps back then, if yes how much were they? Or was the 120fps monitors that came out not too long ago special because it was with flatscreen tech?
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Communist Zombie posted:Were there even monitors that could go over 60fps back then, if yes how much were they? Or was the 120fps monitors that came out not too long ago special because it was with flatscreen tech? At Quake-era resolutions, a CRT probably won't have trouble doing 120 Hz. Of course the video adapter has to be able to do it as well.
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Communist Zombie posted:Were there even monitors that could go over 60fps back then, if yes how much were they? Or was the 120fps monitors that came out not too long ago special because it was with flatscreen tech? Sure, so you had the Sun workstation 20" monitors which could do 160hz at 640x480 and the (I think) the blue cie 24" which did even better. Coupled with vsync disabled, input latency on a ps2 mouse at 200hz then USB mouse sampling at 500hz even 20ms latency was discernable.
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Communist Zombie posted:Were there even monitors that could go over 60fps back then, if yes how much were they? Or was the 120fps monitors that came out not too long ago special because it was with flatscreen tech? So the benQ range which can do 120 or 144hz is still not as good as a 20 year old monitor, even with the lightstrobe tech. People kinda eventually gave up on CRT because those monitors weighed 30kg! For q3, a monitor which could do 100hz at 1024x768 with vsync off with the game running at 125fps was sort of a nice middle ground. In general, any 17" CRT monitor could manage say, 85hz at 640x480 without breaking a sweat. Input latency and fps is surprisingly one of the real Agamemnon/ Virgil 'of course his grandfather was even bigger and faster' stories that people just don't believe, today 
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impulse 7 effect posted:So the benQ range which can do 120 or 144hz is still not as good as a 20 year old monitor, even with the lightstrobe tech. People kinda eventually gave up on CRT because those monitors weighed 30kg! CRT's had a direct inverse relationship between scan resolution and scan rate. The more pixels a monitor could scan, the faster it could scan a lower number of pixels. Most people never used this ability for much, and LCD's had such huge advantages in areas people did care about, such as physical footprint, power consumption, and 'crispness'. The whole story of how 60Hz was chosen as a baseline refresh rate is a huge failure of display and tv makers to bother doing any research into how people perceived images, and instead simply repeating what had come before with no thought or motive. I'm glad something seems to be happening to help address it, but I'm still disappointed that it's perceived as a fringe thing. A major OEM that pushed into this area (eg Apple) could improve their products hands on experience, without changing the base materials cost much at all, and really set themselves apart.
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EoRaptor posted:The whole story of how 60Hz was chosen as a baseline refresh rate is a huge failure of display and tv makers to bother doing any research into how people perceived images, and instead simply repeating what had come before with no thought or motive. I'm glad something seems to be happening to help address it, but I'm still disappointed that it's perceived as a fringe thing. A major OEM that pushed into this area (eg Apple) could improve their products hands on experience, without changing the base materials cost much at all, and really set themselves apart. It’s a bandwidth problem. 1920 × 1200 at 60 Hz was a serious amount of data to push till fairly recently. You’d have to go to dual‐link DVI to exceed that. It’s not that 60 Hz was the highest anyone could ever possibly want, it’s that it was good enough without doubling the cost of the interface hardware for capability few would use. Remember how terrible the response time was on early LCDs? 60 Hz was almost superfluous when pixels took tens of milliseconds to react.
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It's also relevant that 60Hz with LCD style persistent pixels is way, way more pleasant than on most late CRTs, where the phosphor was so "fast" that you had notable flicker unless you increased the refresh rate. It means higher refresh rates have moved from something many normal users could appreciate to a genuine niche interest.
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I think it was this thread that talked about hot metal typesetting for newpapers. Here is a nice film about it. https://vimeo.com/127605643 I don't know how to embed vimeo.
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I think it was linked in a previous page, or in another thread, but it bears repeating. Wonderful film, and just look at that computer technology!
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JazzmasterCurious posted:I think it was linked in a previous page, or in another thread, but it bears repeating. Wonderful film, and just look at that computer technology! I felt soo sad for those guys. Their whole career switched off overnight. And seeing one of those old-timers after retraining as he looked around his desk was kinda crushing. Also if I was the 1st page guy, I would have totally stolen the last page made up of lead and framed it at home.
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Humphreys posted:I felt soo sad for those guys. Their whole career switched off overnight. And seeing one of those old-timers after retraining as he looked around his desk was kinda crushing. What I found amusing that that they had this big change to the new, latest and greatest technology which is now obsolete and they went through an equally dramatic change later.
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Humphreys posted:Also if I was the 1st page guy, I would have totally stolen the last page made up of lead and framed it at home. I worked at a local paper, and they did have the last hot metal plate and the first digital plate framed next to the press. My boss actually started there when he was 16 as a Linotype apprentice and when I was there was head of IT.
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beep-beep car is go posted:I worked at a local paper, and they did have the last hot metal plate and the first digital plate framed next to the press. My boss actually started there when he was 16 as a Linotype apprentice and when I was there was head of IT. When I read "hot plate" I thought of a kitchen. Took me a while to realize my error
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Non Serviam posted:When I read "hot plate" I thought of a kitchen. Took me a while to realize my error Lol, when I saw it I thought plastic wrap and poop.
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