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Zeroisanumber posted:I'd worry about them having enough fuel but it's a one-way trip so lol
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Arbite posted:Hah! I'll concede that, but I was at least half-right about this! TehKeen posted:Full on invasion of Hawaii, calling it now.
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   We rain death on them once more.   Here come the Russ.   The Home islands are bombed for the first time in the war!   Neither of us have any supply it would seem!   Well,the Russians can reach the Homeland. Lets hope the AI doesn't send a certain bomber up there.
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So, I'm thinking about changing up my frankly tiny avatar to something newer, and I love this. But I want to get the text right. So far, its the same as current, or "Nice planet you have there, shame if someone was to do an LP about it...." But suggestions would be welcome!
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"What Death Star?"
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...That's it?? After promising for nearly a decade we'd see August Storm rain down in Manchuria, just two bombing raids?
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Comstar posted:...That's it?? After promising for nearly a decade we'd see August Storm rain down in Manchuria, just two bombing raids? the Soviets can't "pre-move" out of their starting hexes prior to activation, so it's going to take them days to move across the border and trigger some land combat
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gradenko_2000 posted:the Soviets can't "pre-move" out of their starting hexes prior to activation, so it's going to take them days to move across the border and trigger some land combat weeks in some cases. The ground movement system is so broken that most units can cover 2-6 kilometers a day, in move mode, across non contested hexes. a hex is 40km across.
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Some of the COs will die of old age on the march
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It is pretty much impossible for the game to simulate a remotely historic august storm essentially.
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Grey Hunter posted:So, I'm thinking about changing up my frankly tiny avatar to something newer, and I love this. Tell that its sculptor well those passions read Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things, The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed: And on the pedestal these words appear: 'My name is Crocktopus, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!' Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.
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What is the radar coverage like at Pearl in 1945? How much notice are the Allies going to have that the Kido Butai is coming?
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Ardeem posted:"What Death Star?" Honestly your current av is perfect.
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If Grey does a star wars LP I'd love to temp switch him to a Croctopus in an imperial uniform...
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Grey Hunter posted:"Nice planet you have there, shame if someone was to do an LP about it...."
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Grey Hunter posted:So, I'm thinking about changing up my frankly tiny avatar to something newer, and I love this. "A very British Victory" (burning navy in the background)
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I've sunk your battleship! Oh drat it. It was mine.
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  The Soviet Airforce is making itself felt.  This place is pretty useless now.  The Communists learn that the Americans and Brits were not underestimating our fighters.  This is a massive strike, met by masses of my own planes – they pay a heavy price for one bomb hit!  Now that was a good day the Red Air force is licking its wounds tonight! While I'm sure the Russians can afford to lose a hundred planes a day, they can't for a single bomb hit! 
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Do Russian aircraft count over in the 'air losses ratio' that you're doing so far?
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wedgekree posted:Do Russian aircraft count over in the 'air losses ratio' that you're doing so far? Oh man those are 2 engine bombers. Loving those points edit: after cutting their teeth on Liberators and Superforts, these 2 engine bombers are milk runs to those IJAA pilots. CannonFodder fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Aug 4, 2019 |
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Aug 4, 2019 06:15
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Those DB-3Ms are pretty obsolete in 1945
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Sooo, Grey had one Frank shot down in air to air combat with the Soviets. 20 or so operational losses/bombing victims. And roughly 70 air to air kills + ~ another 30 or so airframe losses for the Allies. So the IJAA had basically a 5:1 kill ratio in 1945.
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The fact that Grey has an air corps that still knows how to fly and planes worth putting them in is a big reason that he's doing so well this late in the game.
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I mean, to be fair these are obsolete two-engine bombers flying with no escort. Even poorly trained pilots would be racking up some kind of kill count, because they're very nearly defenseless.
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Lord Koth posted:I mean, to be fair these are obsolete two-engine bombers flying with no escort. Even poorly trained pilots would be racking up some kind of kill count, because they're very nearly defenseless. Feels like the flights were designed with historical 1945 japan in mind. Not greys highly trained fighters history. If the cap was mostly decimated then hordes of obsolete bombers would be fine for the Russians.
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did the IRL russians ever bomb the japanese mainland in 1945? googling just brings up a bunch of atom bomb stuff. if not, maybe there's a reason for that?
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the DB-3M is a really old bomber design, having entered service in 1937 its successor, the Il-4, entered service in 1939 a more modern (and perhaps more familiar) Soviet medium bomber would be the Pe-2, which entered service in 1940, or the Tu-2, which entered service in 1941 the fact that Soviet squadrons are still flying it might point to a problem with the game's upgrade paths
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Now that the Russians are active the game just got a lot more interesting.
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gradenko_2000 posted:the DB-3M is a really old bomber design, having entered service in 1937 Or how much the Russians didn't care about the Far East in comparison to having to shore up all their forces in the West.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Or how much the Russians didn't care about the Far East in comparison to having to shore up all their forces in the West. irl the soviet invasion of manchuria was possibly the best-executed campaign in the entire war, the soviets just completely rolled over japanese forces in the area
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to be clear, what I'm referring to is the particular way that the game handles Soviet units: every unit that was historically in-theater on Dec 7 1941 already is there, with their TOE at the time, and then their TOE changes over time, and then they're supposed to draw upgrades from the also-historically-evolving production pool. even if it's a unit that arrives at any time before Aug 1945, a tank brigade is going to show up with, say, T-34s in it, and it's only supposed to slowly transition to IS-2s in 1945 and the reason why the game does this, is so that if ever the Japanese player ever wants to (or unintentionally manages to) activate the Soviets early, then the Soviets are going to have a "realistic" pre-August Storm force composition but if their squadrons are still flying such old planes, then it begs the question of whether that's historically correct, or if there was a problem with the squadrons going through their upgrade paths
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Is this the first time that the Rex has appeared in a dogfight? I know that floatplanes are used during the search phase but this has to be the first time that one of them has appeared in combat. zetamind2000 fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Aug 5, 2019 |
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Do the Soviets have escort fighters with enough range to protect the bombers? Even if they sent Tu-2s to bomb Osaka if they don't have escorts then the Franks will still drop them like they dropped the Liberators and Superforts.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Or how much the Russians didn't care about the Far East in comparison to having to shore up all their forces in the West. Sure, but by this time the war in the West is over. I haven’t read much about it (for a variety of reasons it’s not the most commonly written-about part of the war) but I’d be surprised if the Soviet air armies in the Far East didn’t have new planes by this time.
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  How do you like it?  Revenge tastes sweet.  Dammit, that takes some of the shine of Guam.  Their avoiding Japan today.  Overall losses are pretty even, but I lost the base bombing. I check all Chinese fighters and bombers are active.
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You’re killing some unicorns here, the P-70 was a conversion of the A-20 in to a night fighter with radar and an all forward armament. About 120 were converted and almost none saw combat though they were deployed to the pacific theater in small numbers.
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P-61 Black Widow was the first American plane to have a radar. Some neat, late-war planes showing up.
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I think these might be the largest flights of strategic bombers we've seen.
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CannonFodder posted:Do the Soviets have escort fighters with enough range to protect the bombers? A quick look on Wikipedia says this is a big No. Those old bombers may be the only ones with the range to make it to Japan, the Pe-2 has a range of only 1100 km compared to the 3800 of the DB3
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