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Armitage posted:especially with Laser in play the 4-hit laser was basically a party AoE attack, except if you're unlucky all the damage lands on one character and you lose
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Prav posted:the 4-hit laser was basically a party AoE attack, except if you're unlucky all the damage lands on one character and you lose and he follows it up with an attack to boot, sometimes the AoE one which ignores RES. I tried again and mastered the fight, I put in Kain instead of Ashe and used Y'Shtola for extra healing and settled for a Stoneskin as RW. Laser is still a bitch, I'm gonna be hurting for awhile after this one.
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Yeah I'm not gonna bother with the non-jump start Proudclad. My go-to of RW Stoneskin, Onion Knight, Ramza, Orlandeau, Y'shtola, and wildcard (In this case Lightning for imperil) wasn't looking so hot at the end of the jump start fight, so I imagine having to actually build the SB gauge in an otherwise identical fight would be tedious at best.
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Armitage posted:and he follows it up with an attack to boot, sometimes the AoE one which ignores RES. His attacks are all physical, so they all ignore RES!  IllegallySober posted:On another note, has JP gotten more team slots than the 20 we have? With all the elementals and the realm synergy teams I feel like I could use another 5 or so. Not yet, but they announced on the last FFRK Report that they're going to be increasing it from 20 to 60, with more sorting/organizing options.
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iamsosmrt posted:Do you have any of the Last Stand BSBs/USBs? That's probably the one thing that I'd bring over Vanille, if that's an option. Otherwise, you're probably doing all that you can, RNG be RNG. I only have minifilla's shout/last stand so that's not an option. The other team members have been covering that in my goon run over the past 2 days. Its just a bitch and rng. I could use her instead of onion and have her bsb and do breakdowns though. It just hasn't been needed in the runs so far.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Yeah, I don't know why they like designing bosses that can attack like 3 times before you get an action, all it does is encourage resetting until the RNG doesn't insta-gib someone. It's not difficult, it's just a "do i have to reset or not" check. The real reason I like the Jump Start battles is that everyone starts at half ATB. They really ought to apply that to every battle.
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Fister Roboto posted:The real reason I like the Jump Start battles is that everyone starts at half ATB. They really ought to apply that to every battle. They do that for the magicite fights too and it flusters me. Everyone gets their ATB bar full at the same time (often randomly; S/L three times and you'll get a different order each time), and so I have to figure out whose ATB is up each time and what I want them to do, wasting precious milliseconds while the other characters' bars are sitting full. When people's' bars are staggered, you can figure out who is up next and mentally prepare what you want them to do before their turn arrives.
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Fister Roboto posted:The real reason I like the Jump Start battles is that everyone starts at half ATB. They really ought to apply that to every battle. FWIW they do start doing this for MO battles at some point, and as mentioned Magicite battles do it as well. Schwartzcough posted:They do that for the magicite fights too and it flusters me. Everyone gets their ATB bar full at the same time (often randomly; S/L three times and you'll get a different order each time), and so I have to figure out whose ATB is up each time and what I want them to do, wasting precious milliseconds while the other characters' bars are sitting full. When people's' bars are staggered, you can figure out who is up next and mentally prepare what you want them to do before their turn arrives. It's not random, if you do it often enough with the same team you'll get the same initial turn order like 90% of the time. Sometime rounding errors cause characters with very similar speeds to reach their turns in different orders, though. It is really annoying when it switches up on you though. Zurai fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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Schwartzcough posted:His attacks are all physical, so they all ignore RES! lol, I meant DEF. How humiliating! Anyway, I felt a little froggy and decided to finish off the Mote Dungeons I haven't done yet(II/X). Surprisingly I rolled over them! Hooray for power creep! Needed that confidence boost.
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Schwartzcough posted:Not yet, but they announced on the last FFRK Report that they're going to be increasing it from 20 to 60, with more sorting/organizing options. Sweet. Can't wait for that.
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If you have Edge SSB and are struggling with this jumpstart fight, you probably aren't leaning in to the gimmick hard enough. Edge's SSB can singlehandedly keep your party alive for something like 5-8 rounds with no healing with a bit of luck. All of the bosses attacks are physical, so each recast gives everyone a blink charge and a last stand, or enough defense to eat two hits with no other healing or mitigation on your part. For my kill, I used that, and had Ramza cast Chant after Shout and Full Break (for medals) to give everyone a atoneskin buffer of extra coverage. (I also used Ramza USB as an RW for the partywide noncharge to speed things up further. )
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The U++ was hard enough for my a team let alone a CM team. Good thing I have tons of major wind orbs. Everything else clear though.
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The 220 raid has been very frustrating for me so far, I've had the best luck with OK/Eiko, however, I'm at about 80% for the first ultimate trample hitting Eiko right as she's about to cast FoR, or selecting guardian mog.
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I could be poked into helping with the 220 raid. I always bring Gordon (BSB for LS, Attack Breakdown, Defense Breakdown), Full Break, Magic Breakdown OR AffBreak and Vanille (USB/BSB, Curaja, Arise) Discord is Kumog#8060
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I finally nailed the solo Apocalypse fight down, just spamming last stand from Relm and Prishe, with TG Cid doing the heavy lifting while Ramza boosted and Mustadio stacked breaks. I had 4 levels of attack break on that jerk and it barely made a difference. What a pain! I have made zero progress with the multilplayer fight. If it weren't for those sweet vitality 4* motes, I probably wouldn't bother.
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Vonnie posted:The 220 raid has been very frustrating for me so far, I've had the best luck with OK/Eiko, however, I'm at about 80% for the first ultimate trample hitting Eiko right as she's about to cast FoR, or selecting guardian mog. Mastered after a few more tries, final team was OK/Eiko (VoF, FoR, Guardian Mog), Fran/Eiko (BSBs and shatterheart, Protectga), Lion/Vanille (BSBs, Shellga), Squall/Y'shtola (BSBs, SS2, OSB finisher).
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CaptainPsyko posted:If you have Edge SSB and are struggling with this jumpstart fight, you probably aren't leaning in to the gimmick hard enough. Edge's SSB can singlehandedly keep your party alive for something like 5-8 rounds with no healing with a bit of luck. All of the bosses attacks are physical, so each recast gives everyone a blink charge and a last stand, or enough defense to eat two hits with no other healing or mitigation on your part. Huh I have this and never used it. I'll give it a try.
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I have Edge's other, much shittier SSB. 
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Somebody looked at the bosses of this FF13 event and said "Yeah, that seems fine. Release it." 
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Keep in mind we got this event WAY ahead of schedule. It's still crappy but there's that going for them.
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Alxprit posted:Keep in mind we got this event WAY ahead of schedule. As a non-Wall haver I'm worried if "RW Cloud USB and just kill him wtf are you even doing" becomes the next Big Thing.
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Neutral Zone Trap posted:As a non-Wall haver I'm worried if "RW Cloud USB and just kill him wtf are you even doing" becomes the next Big Thing. This is exactly what happens.
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Vonnie posted:This is exactly what happens. I bet that's true for Wall-havers too. Is there supposed to be a breaking point in the non-magicite game where this is no longer feasible?
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Nope that's literally the meta from July 4th Stack supports, RW Cloud USB on your best physical guys, collect rewards 
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What I was going for was people without Wall getting majorly screwed over. I guess if you have some super stacked RS your defenses are high enough to live without Wall. RS for all realms. Whale or die.
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Neutral Zone Trap posted:What I was going for was people without Wall getting majorly screwed over.
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Speaking of getting wall, has there been any word on when global will get Keeper's Selection #3? It looks like it's been out in Japan for 10 months at this point.
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Beasteh posted:Nope that's literally the meta from July 4th You will be surprised to learn that it is not, in fact, that easy.
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saltylopez posted:Speaking of getting wall, has there been any word on when global will get Keeper's Selection #3? It looks like it's been out in Japan for 10 months at this point. We've gone far enough past Keeper's Choice 3 (En-Element SB choice) and Dr. Mog 2 (SSB choice) that they'll be sort of dated if we get them. Despite Keeper's Choice 2 being great for beginners with Sheepsong, Shout and SG - on paper the banner is [3 BSB / 4 SSB / 2 SB] compared to the current Lightning banners of [2 6* / 3 BSB / 2 LMR / 4 SSB]. Mog 2 swaps an SB with an OSB, but that OSB is Tyro's so it's not really an improvement. If we do get these banners, they'll have to be revamped quite a bit. Both are still much better then Keeper's 2 for Wall chasing. I was personally hoping for Cloud or Bartz's Enwind on KC2 since grabbing Cloud's OSB in a lucky, and EnWind + dualcast Snowspell Strike + Cloud USB for Bartz.
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Neutral Zone Trap posted:What I was going for was people without Wall getting majorly screwed over. For what it's worth, I started at the 2 year anniversary in JP (with the Player Select banner), and never pulled wall, but I at least completed the XIII event Jump Start battle, and was completing all content shortly thereafter. So I was not loaded up with synergy and didn't have Wall. Wall still made a big difference and I struggled a lot less on events I could bring a wall RW than ones I couldn't (since I didn't have great DPS to use with Cloud's USB; I relied on Amarant's bonus crit damage SSB for a good while), but it's certainly doable.
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pichupal posted:We've gone far enough past Keeper's Choice 3 (En-Element SB choice) and Dr. Mog 2 (SSB choice) that they'll be sort of dated if we get them. Shout/SG/Sheepsong will still get used more than any 3 relics from the current Lightning banners. But yeah the rest of all the keepers choice banners are terrible and make pulling on it a bad idea.
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Pander posted:Shout/SG/Sheepsong will still get used more than any 3 relics from the current Lightning banners. Raines BSB, Nabaat BSB, Vanille BSB. It's a stretch, and that's literally the only three relics of that quality, spread across the two banners, but I managed to find "any 3" that would see as much use as the Mog's Choice trifecta.
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Pander posted:Shout/SG/Sheepsong will still get used more than any 3 relics from the current Lightning banners. Not to mention all the actual choice relics, which have really great things like elemental boosts, status resists, and shared SBs. You'll probably end up getting a lot of mileage out of those.
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I meant it more in the sense that DENA will look at the banner and think 'We need to make this better - let's switch Krile's SSB to her BSB!' or something silly like that. I think they did it on KC1 that took Eiko's Medica/Hastega and Leon's Hand of the Emperor ATK/DEF buff and 'upgraded' them to their SSBs. Even if a Sentinel SSB and Reraise SSB have uses, dropping the boostga and Hastega from the banner was why I skipped pulling on it. Edit: Then Mog 3's problem is I think SG is in the '1% SB/SSB' slot on the banner. Then Sheepsong is switched with Serah SSB (sure) and Shout is swapped with Minfilia's SSB (no). It's balanced out by Celes SSB and better BSB/OSB picks, and the choice of BSB. pichupal fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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CaptainPsyko posted:If you have Edge SSB and are struggling with this jumpstart fight, you probably aren't leaning in to the gimmick hard enough. Edge's SSB can singlehandedly keep your party alive for something like 5-8 rounds with no healing with a bit of luck. Thanks for this post, it convinced me to try the Jumpstart with a yolo team relying on Edge's SSB for survival and Armitage's Lightning USB RW from a couple of pages ago. My first time beating anything higher than difficulty 160-ish.  Only one character in the team was over level 65, but I've had great luck with relics that could carry this fight (TGCid OSB, Lightning BSB2, Raines BSB) so I'm not kidding myself that I could've done it otherwise.
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I just want them to make a Keeper's Choice Banner where Sentinel's Grimoire is a choose-able relic. Otherwise, really don't want to blow 50 mithril over and over on what tends to always be a beginner banner. Of all the relics to chase at this point, it's always gonna be on a banner with the worst consolation prizes for anyone who's played for a while.
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At this point there should really be a beginner banner that has SG, Platinum Sword, some magic boost relic, and a decent medica SSB for a decent character (something like Selphie or Arc's blink ones) as free choices.
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