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Who decides it gets to the "selecting" official? Is it a person or a computer?
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Sep 22, 2011 02:06
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Not sure, but here's the key to USA Jobs Application Status messages: https://my.usajobs.gov/help/help.aspx?k=/account/applyhistory.aspx quote:Eligible - Application Not Referred to Selecting Official: Candidate meets minimum qualification requirements, but is not determined to be among the best qualified and so is not referred for selection consideration.
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Sep 22, 2011 02:12
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Tortilla Maker posted:I'm a Wage Hour Investigator (formerly Compliance Officer) with the Department of Labor. Edit. Tortilla Maker fucked around with this message at 12:50 on Oct 12, 2011 |
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Sep 23, 2011 04:58
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In case you didn't get the email, USAJOBS will be down for maintenance October 6-12. They want you to login before October 1 to add some security questions.
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Sep 23, 2011 05:23
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TLG James posted:Who decides it gets to the "selecting" official? Is it a person or a computer? Seconding what grover said. I've never heard of anyone saying, "hey, you selected Es or 5s on USAJobs, pal, now explain yourself..." -- although lying would be a bad idea; just think creatively. I don't know what job(s) you applied to, but I bet that by someone's standards you're an expert on most of those questions if it was an IT job. You've probably supervised people doing it, too. Supervision doesn't mean being in a supervisory billet, per se. Your military experience probably means you trained someone for OJT. That sounds like supervising someone while they conducted a task on which you're an expert to me. That's a max-out on that one. Just remember your goal is to interview, so you don't want to waste anyone's time. The human challenges will come from your resume and interview content. I think USAJobs' order of events is a mystery to most or all of us, but we seem to all agree that at least part of it is a scripted formula you should strive to max out. You need to "cert," and contend with the oh-so-brilliant arbiters of occupational competence in HR (agency-dependent; at some places it's easier for a hiring official to manually pull your resume after you cert). The only solid bit I can confirm is that you should strive to maximize your score on the answers, as everyone else said.
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Sep 24, 2011 14:30
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I've always heard that the hiring process is long and drawn out for federal government jobs, but does anyone know if that's different when you have a special status for disabilities? My vocational rehab counselor is all about me trying to get a federal job (I have an English degree and currently have a job I hate as a preschool teacher) but I don't know if it's likely to help me move on from my current job within the next few months.
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Sep 24, 2011 15:53
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Any word on the pathways program?
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Sep 24, 2011 16:24
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squidtarts posted:I've always heard that the hiring process is long and drawn out for federal government jobs, but does anyone know if that's different when you have a special status for disabilities? My vocational rehab counselor is all about me trying to get a federal job (I have an English degree and currently have a job I hate as a preschool teacher) but I don't know if it's likely to help me move on from my current job within the next few months. In my experience on the hiring side, there is no difference in hiring speed for Schedule A applicants compared to public and status applicants.
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Sep 24, 2011 21:58
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maskenfreiheit fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Nov 29, 2013 |
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Sep 25, 2011 16:09
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GregNorc posted:So are the pension benefits for federal employees as good as they're made out to be? FERS + TSP + social security = your retirement. If you start young and invest well (and the market holds out) it's a pretty good retirement system. Not really as good as the old government pension plan, but better than most people have. grover fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Sep 25, 2011 |
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Sep 25, 2011 16:17
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squidtarts posted:I've always heard that the hiring process is long and drawn out for federal government jobs, but does anyone know if that's different when you have a special status for disabilities? My vocational rehab counselor is all about me trying to get a federal job (I have an English degree and currently have a job I hate as a preschool teacher) but I don't know if it's likely to help me move on from my current job within the next few months. My husband got in through the Schedule A program just a few days before the end of fiscal year 2010. It took him over a year of applying to get a job (started May 2009, started working for the IRS in Sept 2010). He also had about 7 interviews with agencies, and attended the Federal Hiring Fair for People with Disabilities in DC in April 2010. From what I've been hearing, its been tough even if you have the ability to get a noncompetitive appointment due to the budget cuts.
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Sep 25, 2011 17:01
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maskenfreiheit fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Nov 29, 2013 |
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Sep 29, 2011 03:21
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I'll probably regret this, but I work in equal employment opportunity/diversity/civil rights in the Federal sector, and I get to deal with nearly all aspects of the HR chain and any other related portion. In answer to some of the later chatter, Schedule A is spectacular...if you have a great Special Placement Coordinator or if you have an "in" with someone in the office/agency you are trying to go to. Schedule A can shorten your time to starting, but it is also a gamble for the hiring official - offices like mine try to help alleviate any irrational fears and promote heavy usage of the program, but there is only so much we can do. If you have any other related questions, I'd be more than happy to help as best I can!
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Sep 29, 2011 14:54
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GregNorc posted:I'm about to pick an internship for my PhD, which will probably be where I end up working post-grad school. If the pay really is that crappy, I don't see why I'd go for a goverment agency I don't either, unless you have some personal national service interest. You just described right here a huge part of the problem in attracting qualified applicants (not to imply education automatically brings competence, but you get the idea), though the bad economy changes things sometimes.
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Sep 29, 2011 19:30
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TLG James posted:Who decides it gets to the "selecting" official? Is it a person or a computer? For my agency, I believe the applications are first sorted by how you answer the multiple choice questions (be as aggressive and creative in answering these as you can! I usually print out the questions and jot my answers down, just in case I get asked about them, though I never have been). The top X% of applications are then cross-checked to make sure they look legitimate. From there, the cream of the crop (depends on how many, as little as 5, as many as 30+) are sent to the hiring official. From there, the hiring official conducts interviews, background calls, etc. As has been said, your goal should be to get the hiring official calling you and/or making calls about you. You do that by being very aggressive in answering those stupid questions. Do not be modest about what you put there. BrainParasite posted:In case you didn't get the email, USAJOBS will be down for maintenance October 6-12. They want you to login before October 1 to add some security questions. Don't forget about this. I'd download your resume locally (if you don't already) just to make sure that if the contractor fucks this up you aren't hosed too.
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Sep 29, 2011 21:07
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maskenfreiheit fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Apr 28, 2019 |
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Sep 29, 2011 22:15
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GregNorc posted:Wow. I assumed there was some separate payscale someone would snarkily link me to. On USAJOBS, look for the line "Promotion Potential". That's the GS level that you can get promoted to while performing that particular job. Usually you get a few noncompetitive promotions, then one or two that you have to "earn" to reach that level. Then you start stepping up within that level.
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Sep 29, 2011 22:26
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Also, that's why we all end up as contractors. Come back to the same job at the same agency, +100% of the salary. It's unfortunate that the govt. can't seem to figure out a way to change it, though.
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Sep 29, 2011 22:41
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GregNorc posted:Wow. I assumed there was some separate payscale someone would snarkily link me to. For full disclosure, you can sometimes have a de facto automatic progression to -12 a year after promotion to -11 (I don't know how this works for all job series, just mine). But as you're in a sci/tech industry, that's still not going to entice you much IMO. Tyro explained this more generally, too. edit: and yes, intel does tend to pay/start you higher, though it still uses the GS pay scale for salary and starting grades tend to vary depending on the organization. It's still going to be the -9/11/12 thing. People with less education than you can start at -7 in intel, even in DC sometimes. And usually you'll start at step 1, though particularly if you come in from contracting (as mentioned above), you might successfully negotiate a higher starting step. Zoo fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Sep 29, 2011 |
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Sep 29, 2011 23:10
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I have been following this thread from the start. Government jobs always seemed interesting to me, especially the foreign service. I actually considered a career in the foreign service at one point. I see a lot of Goons in this thread asking about how to properly write and format their resume to apply for federal jobs. I am offering a free basic resume critique to anyone interested in applying to a federal job. I have been paid to write over 2000 resumes. Some of those have been targeted at federal jobs. Just send me an email with your resume to support@resumetointerviews.com. I also have a thread in the SA-Mart with over 2900 replies as evidence that my critique is worthwhile. As a full disclosure, I am offering this help as a way for me to spread the word about my resume writing service. I am being honest because Goons are very intelligent and pick up on B.S. in an instant. To redeem this one-time offer sign up at...just kidding. In all seriousness, I really am offering professional advice and expect nothing in return. Mods: If this is not kosher let me know and I will remove this post.
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Sep 30, 2011 15:41
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maskenfreiheit fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Nov 29, 2013 |
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Oct 1, 2011 21:22
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GregNorc posted:Do contractors ever do research, or are those usually grunt programming/systems admin type roles? There's tons of IA/infosec contracting work.
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Oct 1, 2011 21:57
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I applied to a NY civil service exam for an open position. I'm looking forward to the opportunity because jobs seem to have dried up out here. My issue is that I could not find any materials on the test that I plan to take. The announcement is here and the tests scheduled are at the beginning of the second page, under 25-471. From the test guides available I didn't find anything helpful. Is there anything I can realistically do to prepare for this exam?
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Oct 2, 2011 14:31
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GregNorc posted:Do contractors ever do research, or are those usually grunt programming/systems admin type roles? Yeah, as psydude said, contractors are everywhere (including at CERT, assuming you mean US-CERT).
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Oct 2, 2011 15:09
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maskenfreiheit fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Nov 29, 2013 |
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Oct 2, 2011 15:35
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GregNorc posted:US-CERT = DHS, I was more referring to CERT/CC which is a federaly funded research development center. They're funded by the SEI over at CMU. Sorry, I'm so used to my part of government bureaucracy at this point that I just naturally align to the acronyms associated with organizations I work most with (one of which is DHS). But yeah, I'm sure the answer is the same, though I can speak authoritatively only about US-CERT. I tend to hear good things about FFRDCs.
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Oct 2, 2011 16:12
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There is like a GS-11 spot for a chaplain in Omaha for the VA? ANY TAKERS?
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Oct 4, 2011 16:37
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The new USAjobs is up.
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Oct 11, 2011 20:20
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USAjobs always worries me. I feel like it constantly leaves out jobs I'd be interested in even when I specifically filter for them. Hopefully the new version is better, but aside from refining visuals I don't see much different.
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Oct 12, 2011 16:38
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There doesn't seem to be a way to exclude job posts that are greater than 30 days.
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Oct 12, 2011 17:21
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The new site loving sucks
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Oct 12, 2011 17:59
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TLG James posted:There doesn't seem to be a way to exclude job posts that are greater than 30 days.
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Oct 12, 2011 20:20
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grover posted:Click "Yes". That is a saved search. Not the same as just being able to see it the old way. The old way was just a separate button to exclude these. Also it doesn't seem to work. All the postings are now "new" so they haven't been there for more than 30 days. "Exclude postings for jobs open longer than 30 days Selecting this option will exclude any jobs in which the posting date is more than 30 days old. You should keep in mind that as a result, continuously open jobs that were posted more than 30 days ago will not be returned in the search results. " TLG James fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Oct 12, 2011 |
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Oct 12, 2011 20:56
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TLG James posted:Also it doesn't seem to work. All the postings are now "new" so they haven't been there for more than 30 days.
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Oct 12, 2011 20:59
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11b1p posted:The new site loving sucks Yeah I don't understand what they improved. And have some of the search functions been cut?
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Oct 18, 2011 23:58
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Is anyone else having the problem where when you search by state, you get results from DC? I always select our state and two others, but in the middle of my results are all kinds of postings from DC. I don't want a job in DC, damnit! I definitely liked the old site better. 
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Oct 19, 2011 00:58
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Gravel Gravy posted:Yeah I don't understand what they improved. And have some of the search functions been cut? I'm starting to figure it out but I still hate it. I had a good saved search so I could see only new stuff listed that day and within a certain mileage, but I can't get it to work now.
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Oct 19, 2011 02:24
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I miss the ability to sort my past application status by agency/status/date updated. Right now it is just sorted by the application date only. They said they're working to bring the functionality back, but it sucks when I'm trying to find an old position description and I have to Ctrl+F every page to find it.
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Oct 19, 2011 15:14
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NintyFresh posted:I miss the ability to sort my past application status by agency/status/date updated. Right now it is just sorted by the application date only. They said they're working to bring the functionality back, but it sucks when I'm trying to find an old position description and I have to Ctrl+F every page to find it. I think it sucks that application status flushes after a few months. Considering I'm going on over two years with an active application for an agency transfer. It should flush after the normal hiring term of approximately 4.25 years.
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Oct 19, 2011 15:31
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Today I got a Notice of Results on a vacancy that I was "Eligible – Application Not Referred to Selecting Official." This notice gave a rating of 85. What does this rating mean? Is it points out of 100, or some relative percentile position to other candidates? Is higher better or worse? Is it an agency specific scoring? (never got this for any other agencies I applied to) I'm just trying to figure out if I should keep applying to these types of positions because if my score is nowhere near being excepted then there is no point in applying.
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Oct 20, 2011 01:18
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