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Cat Mattress posted:There's two factors to deterrence: Pretty sure we proved like almost a decade ago that "severity of punishment" doesn't actually really play a meaningful role in deterrence. The death penalty doesn't deter people by any statistically significant amount.
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You mean to tell me that people aren't purely rational self-interested actors?
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Apr 7, 2015 03:26
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SynthOrange posted:Well, you just need to increase his powers to the point where he can just read everyone's thoughts at once. Also kill them with thoughts for convenience. Menace for God-Emperor of Mankind.
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Apr 7, 2015 04:02
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idonotlikepeas posted:Menace for God-Emperor of Mankind. 
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Apr 7, 2015 10:46
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Captain Oblivious posted:Pretty sure we proved like almost a decade ago that "severity of punishment" doesn't actually really play a meaningful role in deterrence. The death penalty doesn't deter people by any statistically significant amount. If punishment becomes so severe as to cross a threshold where you've got nothing to lose anymore, yes. But look at something like fraud. Say you've got to pay $50 for something, and if you fraud and don't pay the fine if you get caught is only $30.
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Apr 7, 2015 11:59
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Liking the plot, but they should probably take a look at the dialogue. It's rolling into "written" rather than "spoken": "Are you referencing . . . " "I ask for a little bit of assurance . . . "
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Apr 7, 2015 12:40
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Guessing he's trying to save those assassinated biodynamic kids
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Apr 7, 2015 12:43
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She wouldn't be crusading against Templar if you hadn't hosed her over so hard, Patrick. Can't help but notice that you managed to distract the conversation out of answering why you wouldn't help find Moonshadow, too.
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Apr 7, 2015 12:47
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"... not when I'm this close to curing your dad's cancer!"
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Apr 7, 2015 12:56
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His endgame is totally stopping the storm/event that created biodynamics. Hence time travel. Undo the past so the future proceeds in a mundane way. The powers that be lose their experiment, the kids live, he never becomes Menace, she never becomes Mega Girl, all the events after 1992 cease to be. Probably looks good from his perspective.
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Apr 7, 2015 13:58
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I expect he'd go try to save the various "anyone who could have saved the world is dead"s if that was the point in time he was planning to be working around.
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Warmachine posted:His endgame is totally stopping the storm/event that created biodynamics. Hence time travel. Undo the past so the future proceeds in a mundane way.
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Apr 7, 2015 23:50
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Jackard posted:Otoh, time travel is the cause of both biodynamics and the assassinations Ah, like the Rising Stars ending.
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Apr 8, 2015 00:00
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Jackard posted:As the Patrick hivemind grows ever more complex he becomes a true Menace, traveling back in time to nip the world-saving powers in the bud. Alison and Patrick team up to Fight the Future.
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I found SFP after being recommended to read it having liked Worm, so now I'm going to do the opposite:Author's Summary posted:Taylor is cruelly bullied at school, ignored or tormented by her peers, and unassisted by the school's staff. At the end of her rope, she holds on to one thing - her recently gained superpowers and her dream of joining the ranks of Brockton Bay's superheroes. I've been told I'm terrible at convincing people to read things, so I'm just going to quote someone better: sizuka2 posted:Sturgeon's law applies to web serials, in spades - most of them are terrible, and a very few are good.
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Apr 9, 2015 21:15
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seconding the recommendation, worm is some serious poo poo
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Apr 9, 2015 21:21
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it's also really loving long too though
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Apr 9, 2015 21:21
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Is there an e-book version yet?
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Apr 9, 2015 21:27
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worm is like three million words long and only the first quarter is any good.
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Apr 9, 2015 21:35
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I liked the whole thing.
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Error 404 posted:I liked the whole thing. i loved the increasingly violent high school revenge fantasies
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Worm is like, 10 times as long as it should be, and everyone in it is either a tremendous dick or they die. Actually a lot of the tremendous dicks die too but yeah. Either way it's annoying because you're basically reading about a bunch of incredibly unlikeable people beating the poo poo out of each other.
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jsoh posted:i loved the increasingly violent high school revenge fantasies So you never read past the first quarter, huh. Error 404 fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Apr 10, 2015 |
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Apr 10, 2015 01:23
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jsoh posted:worm is like three million words long and only the first quarter is any good. It's a little over one and a half million words, and it's very good overall. The beginning is a little weak, and there's a really bad section preceding the very strong ending. It's a first draft that was written remarkably quickly, and that shows in places. Still, its' absolutely worth reading if you have any interest in superheroes at all.
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That's about as long as every Harry Potter book put together. A 1,500,000 word first draft sounds like a pretty daunting task.
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AnonSpore posted:Worm is like, 10 times as long as it should be, and everyone in it is either a tremendous dick or they die. Actually a lot of the tremendous dicks die too but yeah. Either way it's annoying because you're basically reading about a bunch of incredibly unlikeable people beating the poo poo out of each other. I liked almost all the characters to varying degrees. Sorry you didn't enjoy it, I think it's by far the best web serial out there. Heartily echoing the recommendation, though it has a very, very different tone than SFP.
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Falstaff posted:it has a very, very different tone than SFP. True, though I'd argue that they share a lot of thematic ground.
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Wittgen posted:The beginning is a little weak, and there's a really bad section preceding the very strong ending. This exactly. Though I thought the ending was in danger of collapsing under its own weight. Everything from Leviathan to Behemoth is solid gold. Falstaff posted:I think it's by far the best web serial out there. Damning with faint praise, there.
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So, back to SFP. What is Allison's plan, to try to gain the attention of the people who murdered the people who could have really saved the world?
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Tollymain posted:So, back to SFP. What is Allison's plan, to try to gain the attention of the people who murdered the people who could have really saved the world? MAybe it's her twitting on to this as a solution to the Invisible slasher problem, especially when you combine it with Fire guy's outburst as bait.
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Apr 10, 2015 18:18
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Tollymain posted:So, back to SFP. What is Allison's plan, to try to gain the attention of the people who murdered the people who could have really saved the world? I don't think it's a plan so much as being aware that if she DOES come up with a way to use conventional superpowers to make the world "perfect for everyone forever" like she told Cleaver she wants to do, whoever killed off the biodynamics that could actually do that will probably come gunning for her.
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It'd be funny if we find out that whoever was assassinating biodynamics did go for her, but they couldn't figure out how to kill her. Baby Allison thinks there are mosquitoes out, but there's some dude a thousand yards away cursing his useless rifle.
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AnonSpore posted:Worm is like, 10 times as long as it should be A common problem with internet published fiction. When you don't have to worry about paying for pagecounts things can bloooaat like you would not believe.
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So is Patrick genuinely upset here, or is he just trying to distract Alison from what he almost-but-didn't reveal? (My money is on "both".)
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idonotlikepeas posted:So is Patrick genuinely upset here, or is he just trying to distract Alison from what he almost-but-didn't reveal? (My money is on "both".) Both's probably the right answer here. Patrick strikes me as a character who does actually care about other people (probably more than he expects to) and wants to do good things, but is pretty ends justifies the means about it. Regardless of how much he actually thinks of Allison as a friend and not just a potentially useful ally, she also wouldn't approve of a lot of the poo poo he's probably still going and wouldn't want to piss off someone who could literally punch his head off.
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There is no conspiracy. Patrick is just one of those guys who can't handle us living in a cruel, uncaring world.
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Anybody got a link back to the strip in which he first shows her those files? Can't seem to find it.
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Hypocrisy posted:There is no conspiracy. Patrick is just one of those guys who can't handle us living in a cruel, uncaring world. There's cruel uncaring world and then there's "oh, everybody who could have REALLY changed the world just happened to be killed what a coincidence"
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Here you go: 
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idonotlikepeas posted:So is Patrick genuinely upset here, or is he just trying to distract Alison from what he almost-but-didn't reveal? (My money is on "both".) He is manipulating her. The guy flat out explained that the way he controlled people is he read their thoughts so he knew what to tell them to get them to willingly do what he wanted. That he is pulling the strings on Alison isn't even subtext, its just text.
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