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Saladman posted:TPLF might indeed be highly overstretched / spent, but I guess we'll only know in the next couple weeks. The TPLF withdrawal from Lalibela seems to be confirmed by the TPLF as well. could easily be tactical retreats like the TDF has been doing all year. i'll wait for photos of thousands of POWs but i doubt it
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i say swears online posted:could easily be tactical retreats like the TDF has been doing all year. i'll wait for photos of thousands of POWs but i doubt it TDF overextended their southern offensive, repeat of the Debre Tabor offensive from earlier this year. Attacking from six different directions is an idiotic cocky move. They probably believed that the ENDF was weaker than it was. I think still its too early to draw some conclusions TDF had managed to evict ENDF from those territories when ENDF was much stronger than they are today and facing a much smaller adversary than they are facing today which is a combination of OLA rebels and Sudanese army so it absolutely makes no sense for TDF to retreat those strategic areas after all of those sacrifices to capture them so I think it might be some gambit and we may see ENDF being lured into a trap PawParole fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Dec 1, 2021 |
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Have Somalis been doing anything in this war so far? What's the typical feeling of Somalis about the Somali region of Ethiopia? Do most of them want reunification? What about vice versa? Fuschia tude fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Dec 2, 2021 |
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Fuschia tude posted:Have Somalis been doing anything in this war so far? “Somalian” isn’t a word, and many Somalis find it offensive. The country is Somalia, a person is Somali and its people are Somalis. The noun Somali is a nationality as well as an ethnicity (like French, English,Chinese etc). They are already much more integrated into somalia than ethiopia. There is actually no border between somalia and the Somali region . They dont identify as ethiopian (they call themselves "the somali state"), hardly any of them speak Amharic and since ethiopia will no longer shoot them for doing so, they openly wave the somali flag. The Somalis in Ethiopia officially support the government, but they support neither the government, but despise the TPLF. They have only committed a small force to the war effort and quickly recalled them. It is more symbolic than anything else. Some Somalis see the collapse as an opportunity to secede, but they have a personal gripe with the TPLF - more so than most. PawParole fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Dec 2, 2021 |
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Ah, I didn't know, sorry about that. Thanks for answering!
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PawParole posted:“Somalian” isn’t a word, and many Somalis find it offensive. Kind of OT, but why is that considered offensive? I couldn't find anything Googling about it. Is it just that it implies ignorance of the proper demonym, like calling someone a "Iraqan" rather than a "Iraqi"? Or was it actually used at some point as a pejorative or as a dated synonym? Also yeah "tactical retreat" sounds like bullshit - at least in highly important places like Gashena. Especially "tactical retreat" sounds like bullshit to my ears because the ENDF has been claiming every loss since June has in fact been a "tactical retreat". A good chunk of the posters on the Ethiopia Reddit (nearly all of whom are diaspora, a few in Addis, and none living elsewhere in ETH as far as I've seen) have been treating Abiy like he's some 5D chess master of Sun Tzu.
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i say swears online posted:so what makes y'all so good at wine tasting anyway Only Somalis grown up around the river Somme are allowed to market themselves as sommeliers within the EU.
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I talked to the guide I had in Lalibela last year, who I had been still keeping in touch with before the war via IG; one of the few people I've met while travelling that I really felt like I had a rapport with. Anyway, I mentioned a couple months ago that he walked a couple hundred km to escape the fighting and he eventually got from Lalibela to Bahir Dar, where he spent about a month before getting a bus to Addis to stay with extended family. (The road was fully open the whole time, in contrast to OLA's claim of controlling the Fiche-Dejen road). He's been in contact with his family who stayed recently and apparently reception is restored there, so it's surprising that there hasn't been much in the news out of Lalibela. He sent a bunch of photos of the airport – totally trashed – e.g. :  Which are apparently circulating on local WhatsApp groups. He said his family is all fine and most of the damage was in municipal buildings (schools, hospitals, airports, banks - all destroyed / looted), but he's not going back for now - hoping at best to go back for Christmas (Jan 7). I guess the TPLF retreated without doing any exceptional atrocities or landmark destruction or the ENDF would have been posting photos everywhere showing what the TPLF did to St George's or whatever. There was, I imagine, less visible cultural defacing like looting of ancient books and relics, unless they were able to run away with all of those in time prior to the TPLF's lightning August advance. What a shitshow. TPLF looks like it really got overextended, but if they do retreat back to Tigray then I don't see that ending very well either - presumably there will be a blockade and Tigray will be turned into an even shittier and more isolated copy of Eritrea. I can't imagine the ENDF being able to take and hold Tigray again though, not now that 99.99% of Tigrayans would fight to the death rather than subject themselves to Fano again.
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I came across a book on Amazon the other day. Its about the conflict in the DRC during the 90s. I only recently learned how heavily Rwanda was involved in the conflict and that it is important to understand this conflict to understand the region today. Can anyone comment on the book? Or recommend another book (or podcast) on the subject?
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I have been meaning to read that Sterns book forever myself, so would definitely be interested in opinions on it.
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Dancing in the Glory of Monsters is quite good. After reading this it was not a suprise to see Mozambique call the Rwandan army to clear out al-Shahab out of Cabo Delgado and not a traditional (super)power or international coalition.
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CeeJee posted:Dancing in the Glory of Monsters is quite good. After reading this it was not a suprise to see Mozambique call the Rwandan army to clear out al-Shahab out of Cabo Delgado and not a traditional (super)power or international coalition. I'm gonna check it out since my local library apparently has it.
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PawParole posted:https://twitter.com/MapEthiopia/status/1468660715695349763 Have the TPLF managed to withdraw our are they at risk of being cut off?
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TPLF back in charge of Lalibela and Gashena. Apparently no structural damage to any of the churches – I guess the churches being largely underground helps make them both unstrategic for fighting and less susceptible to random shrapnel and bullets, but in any case it seems like so far there has been little if any any fighting in Lalibela itself. I've heard Gashena suffered damage, although reports are sketchy and I haven't seen videos. The ENDF supporters and the Fano deathsquad supporters were raising alarm for months that the TPLF had been sacking all the churches in Lalibela so it's hard to trust any reports that don't have video. The ENDF captured Kobo, which means that the TPLF in Weldiya (and retreating from their salient towards Addis) were cut off from any paved road back to Tigray, which I imagine spurred the TPLF offensive to recapture Gashena and Lalibela, giving them a paved road to resupply Weldiya and retreat if needed (the road south from Abiy Addi to Sekota to Lalibela to Gashena is largely paved and was in the process of being entirely paved when the war broke out).
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Al Jazeera says the TPLF is officially retreating to Tigray, with Debretsion making overtures for peace. ENDF has also recaptured Lalibela.
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PawParole posted:
Sidama Oromo is pretty good.
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It looks also like parts of Tigray might have had their internet restored too. I just heard back from someone in Axum that I emailed coincidentally just a day or two before the war broke out last November. So, it's looking like there will be yet another frozen conflict that will last for a generation if I had to guess... although I've had a lot of wrong guesses so far.
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Saladman posted:It looks also like parts of Tigray might have had their internet restored too. I just heard back from someone in Axum that I emailed coincidentally just a day or two before the war broke out last November. So, it's looking like there will be yet another frozen conflict that will last for a generation if I had to guess... although I've had a lot of wrong guesses so far. 
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Meanwhile the military has staged a coup in Burkina Faso, ousting the president and installed Paul-Henri Sandaogo Damiba as president. Rumours allege involvement of the Russian mercenary outfit Wagner group, which has operated in the Central African Republic for a while now and is accused of being involved in a similar coup in neighbouring Mali.
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punk rebel ecks posted:https://www.jacobinmag.com/2022/03/south-africa-right-wing-populism-anc-eff-ethno-nationalism https://www.iol.co.za/dailynews/new...c8-f34f225cb78e i was drawn to this article because the victim's first name is the same as a friend's in the area. lots of people in social media comments saying "racism is out of control, that's why i'm voting EFF" if you have any kind of leftist land reform program in south africa, it will necessarily have a populist and racial overtone. there's really no getting around it. the EFF's big selling point is that Mandela didn't go nearly far enough in dismantling white power and they're going to finish the job. the rhetoric can get pretty nasty but it's not my place to call it right-wing south africa is an agricultural country, but black people don't own much land. of the consistently decreasing white minority in south africa, they own 72% of all arable land in the country i say swears online fucked around with this message at 09:00 on Mar 4, 2022 |
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i say swears online posted:https://www.iol.co.za/dailynews/new...c8-f34f225cb78e Yeah I had this conversation some time back in this thread. Apparently EFF are Marxists or something similar.. I just read the article on Jacobin and was wondering if the EFF somehow changed their stance. I was also curious what ActionSA is all about. I was under the impression that agriculture factored in only a small amount of the South African economy. I also asked this on the South African reddit and they describe the EFF as literal nazis. "They say they are Nationalist Socialists!"
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Speaking of South Africa. I noticed they obstained from the Ukraine resolution. A few years back, before covid, I visited SA and met two ladies at a Durban airport bar while waiting for a bus to the city. They turned out to be ANC MPs, one of them gave me her business card so I know for sure it was Ms M Lesoma. Obviously she's not responsible for foreign policy but regardless I though of reaching out to her and ask for support, any little bit could help for the sentiment. I've read quite a bit about SA history before and after visiting but I'm certainly not a scholar and don't have a feeling for what the attitude among the population. Would it be appropraite to frame this in anti-imperialism and colonialism terms and try to draw some parallels there? E: My concern is to avoid trivializing the issues SA faced since as bad as poo poo has been and can get, I don't think (hope) it wouldn't get apartheid level bad mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 12:32 on Mar 4, 2022 |
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Is it okay if I post the reddit thread on here or will that be considered bad taste?i say swears online posted:you can codify anti-racism into law all you want but if you don't touch the wealth of the ruling minority, nothing will change. the majority being locked out of entire sectors of the economy spurs corruption and hurts everyone This is my take too. You can't fight racism without fighting Capitalism. To go after the majority's wealth is to go after the majority of wealth.
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