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Wanted to come back and say thanks for suggesting I double check this. After opening the case I found there were a few screws that were not nearly all the way tightened. After tightening them and adding a second fan to the cooler, my idle temps now sit between 32-40, rather than 40-50. Edit: Also wanted to note that I stress tested it with P95 as recommended and the cooler seemed to perform very well. The CPU never went a degree over 70c the entire time and mostly hung out in the mid sixties. threeagainstfour fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Jul 15, 2020 |
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Cygni posted:Are u a bad enough dude
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Cygni posted:And yes, of course it is Asrock. Never any doubt in your mind, I know Asrock is literally Cave Johnson, but an OEM. "PCB design isn't about why, it's about why not!"
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I said, years ago:SwissArmyDruid posted:Seriously, if there is anyone that you can expect to make Threadripper ITX work, it's ASRock. When they do, just.... don't stare at the circuitboard traces. And if they start to swim a bit out the corner of your eye, uh, maybe call a priest and pour yourself a nice, stiff drink? It's absolutely not the eldritch powers used to stitch together socket TR4 and an ITX board causing you to lose SAN. And they STILL managed to somehow outdo my expectations.
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Jul 15, 2020 23:24
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https://www.anandtech.com/show/15912/ddr5-specification-released-setting-the-stage-for-ddr56400-and-beyond Anandtech did an article on the DDR5 spec that was released yesterday. 128GB UDIMMs? Yes please.
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Maybe we'll stop getting laptops that only have 4 GB of RAM by default Haha who am I kidding of course not
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gradenko_2000 posted:Maybe we'll stop getting laptops that only have 4 GB of RAM by default If it's not 4GB it'll be whatever irritating minimum is required to run the OS and choke an doing anything more extreme then 4 chrome tabs. SwissArmyDruid posted:I said, years ago: Asrock tech running into boardroom and slams down design sheets onto meeting table "Low profile single slot RX 6900 XT!" Lead product designer, wiping his nose "Praise Yog-Sothoth, we've done it again!"
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EmpyreanFlux posted:If it's not 4GB it'll be whatever irritating minimum is required to run the OS and choke an doing anything more extreme then 4 chrome tabs. The CEO's eyes roll back so hard he sees his own brain, 30 seconds of grunting and shivering later: "Your product meets our lord's requirements, make haste and insure at least 500 are made and placed into the hands of mortals!"
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gradenko_2000 posted:Maybe we'll stop getting laptops that only have 4 GB of RAM by default
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EmpyreanFlux posted:Asrock is literally Cave Johnson, but an OEM. I'll do you one better: Why is Asrock?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah...but are they any good? Or is this more of a who cares thing?
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Jul 16, 2020 16:12
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If you're looking for a no compromises build, you're not using mITX, hth
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Jul 16, 2020 16:37
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No poo poo
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NewFatMike posted:If you're looking for a no compromises build, you're not using mITX, hth If you don't use itx, you're compromising on volume. 
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Cygni posted:
tfw you put a mITX board in a tower case so it can use a 360mm radiator
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FuturePastNow posted:tfw you put a mITX board in a tower case so it can use a 360mm radiator Just one?
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FuturePastNow posted:tfw you put a mITX board in a tower case so it can use a 360mm radiator Alphacool makes 280mm 1U radiators.
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Also: https://www.sliger.com/products/cases/sv590/
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Jul 16, 2020 23:15
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I covet that so much. Next build, next build.
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Subjunctive posted:I covet that so much. Next build, next build. same, i think im gonna try to do an ultra tiny water cooled ITX build with a "4950X" when they come out, as a project to pour time/research into and get really upset about when it doesnt work right and then it will take me 6 more months of buying specialty parts one at a time to get to work and then i will hate it by the time its done and never take any pictures and give it away to a family member cause i cant stand having it in the house after all the pain it caused me gonna kick rear end
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I used to think I wanted a small ITX/mITX gaming PC but after going in the other direction to a full tower, it's hard to imagine dealing with the heat and space constraints of a SFF PC. Have any of you successfully built a high-end SFF PC with a high-end GPU (e.g., 2080Ti) and if so, what kind of thermals do you get?
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Yeah, after having worked in cramped cases too many times I definitely like having a bigger case. I'd need a compelling reason to go for building a miniature machine.
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FuturePastNow posted:tfw you put a mITX board in a tower case so it can use a 360mm radiator gently caress yes microitx with 64 cores CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Jul 17, 2020 |
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Jul 17, 2020 03:44
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You can pry my late 90s Inwin full tower case from my cold dead calloused hands
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shrike82 posted:Have any of you successfully built a high-end SFF PC with a high-end GPU (e.g., 2080Ti) and if so, what kind of thermals do you get? I wish this one was mine: 
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Subjunctive posted:I covet that so much. Next build, next build. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsivTANNkKw the build quality leaves a lot to be desired
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Malcolm XML posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsivTANNkKw Heartbreaking, ugh.
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Yeah, my bad. Didn’t notice these things are itx.
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I wish I could build an ITX box for myself, but I can't convince myself that it's worth giving up the extra ports and slots. There's always something around the corner that needs plugging in to verify it works, or something that needs recovering...
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SwissArmyDruid posted:I wish I could build an ITX box for myself, but I can't convince myself that it's worth giving up the extra ports and slots. There's always something around the corner that needs plugging in to verify it works, or something that needs recovering... Yeah, it's nice having ample USB 3 ports on my new machine. I also tend to move hardware from my old builds to my new builds, and end up with an excessive of drives and such. My new desktop has two m2 drives, 2 SATA SSDS, and 2 HDDs. It feels weird having no optical drives but I still have my previous desktop up and running if I need it. I think it still has 3 SSDs and 1 HDD as well as the DVD burner.
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I think microATX is the sweet spot for size, it just chops off some height that would just be useless extra PCIe slots that would probably never be used anyway on a gaming pc.
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I was honestly tempted to switch to AMD to replace my x99 mATX setup, but then I looked at the board selection which is pretty poor. Then I went over and checked the z490 selection and almost every company makes at least one mATX board. I think i'll just get an 8 core haswell-e for cheap instead.
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priznat posted:I think microATX is the sweet spot for size, it just chops off some height that would just be useless extra PCIe slots that would probably never be used anyway on a gaming pc. It is 100%, I'm always disappointed at the lack of good boards and cases, even though it's bang in the sweet spot
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Nah, I'm always gonna need those extra few PCIe slots for..... stuff.
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Just for ease of building normal atx is definitely nicer, my case has the board mounted horizontaly which I like. But cable management is a mess and making any changes is pretty tedious. I used to have a EVGA hybrid card, mounting the radiator at the top was a huge pain.
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shrike82 posted:I used to think I wanted a small ITX/mITX gaming PC but after going in the other direction to a full tower, it's hard to imagine dealing with the heat and space constraints of a SFF PC. I’m running a 9900K with the noctua U9S with a second 92mm fan and an EVGA 2080 Ti XC Ultra in the Ncase M1 (12.7L). The 9900K is stock clocks with an undervolt and see temps in the 60s to 70s. I have two settings for the graphics, 1800 MHz @ 800 mV which see temps in the mid 50s with only 1000 rpm GPU fans and 1900 MHz @ 900 mV which bumps temps to the mid 60s at the same fan speed, I also have two slim noctua 120mm fans below the gpu as intake. The bottom fans and cpu cooler are set to intake and I have a single A12x25 on the side bracket set as exhaust. None of the fans break 1000 rpm for noise reasons and everything is cooled well. Limiting voltage on the GPU helps immensely with thermals and noise without much of a drop in performance, it really helps with coil whine though. If I wasn’t particularly concerned with a silent setup I could get a bit more performance but honestly it’s pretty good as is. I do have a kraken x53 on the way to test versus the U9S. The smaller case is also nice when I travel for work. I have a travel bag setup for the PC with an extra keyboard, mouse, etc. so I can just toss it in there and I’m good to go. Quite the great travel rig when paired with the ASUS XG17AHP. Larger cases definitely have better compatibility for parts but a high end system is definitely doable in SFF cases, thought it tends to be more expensive. Cooler Master is releasing the NR200(P) which is on preorder at amazon, sub 20L and can pack a 240/280 AIO or a noctua U12A and large three slot GPUs for $80. B-Mac fucked around with this message at 12:44 on Jul 17, 2020 |
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Alright. Maybe someone with more AMD knowledge can chime in here. Awhile back I posted how my 3900X ran really cool. Around 68-70deg fully maxed out. Thing is the actual cores would really never go above 4.15Ghz according to HWinfo. By this I mean the current speeds showed that but the max speed would show around 4.5Ghz. Okay so I didn't think much of it until I saw some videos of other 3900x boosting cores passed 4.2Ghz for amounts of time that you can actually notice in HW info. Messed with my Gigabyte Aorus bios, mostly playing with some of the voltage settings. No real differences. Read google, noticed some folks said after removing Ryzen Master their cores clocked correctly. Also LLC settings might matter. So I did that, Set LLC to one notch below max control, removed Ryzen Master. Reboot. Now we are talking:  Can anyone explain any of this? I just dont have a lot of AMD experience with Ryzen.
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redeyes posted:Messed with my Gigabyte Aorus bios, mostly playing with some of the voltage settings. No real differences. Read google, noticed some folks said after removing Ryzen Master their cores clocked correctly. Also LLC settings might matter. So I did that, Set LLC to one notch below max control, removed Ryzen Master. Reboot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMIh8dTdJwI TLDR is you're effectively overvolting & OCing the CPU, because LLC will be feeding more volts to your CPU under load than it expects. Vdroop isn't just like the mobo can't keep up with power needs, it's a specification to keep power & max voltage spikes in check. Setting LLC while keeping stock voltage settings is probably safe, but you could probably accomplish the same thing by leaving LLC alone and boosting main core voltage. LLC is a setting that people can get themselves into trouble with, because while everyone understands that feeding extra volts to the CPU has possible negative consequences LLC is more of a mystery. Klyith fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Jul 17, 2020 |
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track day bro! posted:I was honestly tempted to switch to AMD to replace my x99 mATX setup, but then I looked at the board selection which is pretty poor. Then I went over and checked the z490 selection and almost every company makes at least one mATX board. for some reason the new trend is to treat mATX as a red-headed stepchild and put out mostly lovely cost-reduced boards with terrible VRMs and little in the way of features. I guess the thinking is that enthusiasts who are willing to shell out for lots of expansion will go ATX or EATX and enthusiasts who are willing to shell out for a powerful smaller board will go mITX, leaving mATX as the junky in-between for the people who heard “hey, you don’t really need to pay for a full ATX board bro”. Net effect there are like one or two good mATX boards for most sockets these days.
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