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So this article was posted on MSNBC today, and I thought it was pretty awesome, so I posted it to facebook. First response: "Whats the other side of the story?"  What other side of the story? The side that's sympathetic to Bain Capital/Romney for laying off American autoworkers and exporting their jobs to China, while simultaneously campaigning on "More Jobs for Americans, gently caress China"? The side where the 170 autoworkers are paid too much, and the Free Market demands that their jobs be sent to China at a fraction of the cost so that Romney's stock options will increase their value? How do you respond to this?
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"Makers and Takers: Why conservatives work harder, feel happier, have closer families, take fewer drugs, give more generously, value honesty more, are less materialistic and envious, whine less … and even hug their children more than liberals" Holy poo poo, that book.
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Oct 22, 2012 22:41
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I got this wonderfully vague piece of trash on my Facebook feed today:
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Oct 23, 2012 01:21
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King Dopplepopolos posted:I got this wonderfully vague piece of trash on my Facebook feed today: Bin Laden didn't.
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Oct 23, 2012 02:24
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King Dopplepopolos posted:I got this wonderfully vague piece of trash on my Facebook feed today: Why is it that everyone who posts this kind of thing thinks that those people don't know that we hate them back? It's almost as if they endorse the side they dislike/fear the most in order to damage their chances!
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Oct 23, 2012 03:18
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Grem posted:Or just tell him the government doesn't have the right to tell people what to do with the money they have, and if they believe that the government SHOULD have that right, tell them to find a political party that's left of the Socialist Party here in America (there isn't one). Part of their argument is that foreigners are donating, which is illegal (I think?).
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Oct 23, 2012 03:22
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Part of their argument is that foreigners are donating, which is illegal (I think?). It is; unless it's through a shell corporation! 
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Oct 23, 2012 03:34
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I Am The Scum posted:Bin Laden didn't. pretty much the best response.
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Oct 23, 2012 03:41
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King Dopplepopolos posted:I got this wonderfully vague piece of trash on my Facebook feed today: False. I hate America, and I don't like Obama. Your move, Facebook Guy.
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Oct 23, 2012 03:41
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King Dopplepopolos posted:I got this wonderfully vague piece of trash on my Facebook feed today: Maybe because everything America did before was because it was the will of old rich white men. Turns out the difference between dynastic WASPs and Obama is purely superficial, but still a big enough difference to earn him a Nobel Peace Prize.
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Oct 23, 2012 04:40
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So my brother is a really smart guy. But right out of high school, he joined the military and spent 5 years in Baghdad. Then when he got back, he spent 4 years in the mountains of Tennessee without internet. He finally has regular internet again, but his opinions have... degraded since the last time I talked politics with him.quote:http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-voter-fraud-billboards-come-down-sponsor-stays-225217520--sector.html Normally, I'd let something like that go, because people who post a long rant like that on Facebook aren't interested in having their minds changed, but I know my brother, and despite that idiocy, he's actually got critically thinking skills. I argued with him for about an hour, over the course of 50 posts. While he didn't admit he was wrong, he stopped responding--something utterly uncharacteristic for him. I think I changed a mind today.
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Oct 23, 2012 04:49
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Sarion posted:You guys make it sound like if someone actually read and understood and agreed with Smith; they'd end up to the left of most Democrats. No it's more that Adam Smith lived in England two hundred years ago and doesn't fit neatly on the modern American political spectrum. His background was theology (his parents thought he would never succeed at anything else) and his Christian concern for the general welfare was necessary for him to come to his revolutionary way of thinking about money and trade. Before him the idea of the economy as a whole thing that could be measured and economics as a field didn't exist. He needed to be concerned about the common people in order to realize the interconnectedness of costs and benefits for all of society. The way Adam Smith is appropriated by proponents of modern oligarchic state capitalism is nauseating, but he wouldn't have agreed with a lot of socialist programs either. He predates both ideas. Honestly Smith is a pretty refreshing read; he's still working out the basics of a market economy and so he has virtually no biases we would associate with modern schools of thought. He argues against excessive government control, and argues against corrupt businesses as well.
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Oct 23, 2012 12:26
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Facebook this morning:quote:Will we be microchipped in 2013 (or at a undetermined time) under obamacare? Is it Obamacare specifically or is this old news, old ideas that have been played with for decades? I've tried reading up on this in many articles that I feel have credibility but it remains unclear to me. What does the fine print mean? It's very suggesting but yet could be easily misconstrued. Anyone?  How on earth do you read about being microchipped and say "hmm yes, these articles seem credible to me"?
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Oct 23, 2012 15:15
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mintskoal posted:Facebook this morning: Sorry my cat ran on the keyboard and apparently typed that...?
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Oct 23, 2012 15:18
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If being microchipped means I get to go to the doctor for the first check up in 15 years, chip me up.
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Oct 23, 2012 16:33
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I'm surprised the microchip thing hasn't fused with the NATIONAL ID JANUARY 2013 thing. They both play on the Big Brother fears.
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Oct 23, 2012 16:34
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XyloJW posted:I'm surprised the microchip thing hasn't fused with the NATIONAL ID JANUARY 2013 thing. They both play on the Big Brother fears. No, you see when the government wants to have a hand in forcing private insurance companies to provide the services that you paid for so that you don't die it's big brother taking over. When the government comes in and gives everyone a unique identity card and potentially purges large swaths of citizens from the roles, removing their rights and benefits, due to incomplete or incorrect paperwork issues that's just securing the borders and protecting the country!
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Oct 23, 2012 16:52
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I honestly think a private insurance company is much more likely to instigate microchipping for wealthy clients than the federal government is.
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Oct 23, 2012 16:55
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Part of their argument is that foreigners are donating, which is illegal (I think?). Honestly if there were "fake" ZIP codes, it was probably people getting lazy/typoing with their small online donations, not wealthy foreigners.
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Oct 23, 2012 17:20
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XyloJW posted:I'm surprised the microchip thing hasn't fused with the NATIONAL ID JANUARY 2013 thing. They both play on the Big Brother fears.
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Oct 23, 2012 17:31
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I love the idea that in two months the government is going to start to surgically implant microchips in 300 million people, but they haven't even started to get ready or notify anyone or anything. Even if it was true, what a logistical clusterfuck it's set to be!
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Oct 23, 2012 17:52
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Sarion posted:I love the idea that in two months the government is going to start to surgically implant microchips in 300 million people, but they haven't even started to get ready or notify anyone or anything. Even if it was true, what a logistical clusterfuck it's set to be! I do like that conspiracy theories so often rely on the government simultaneously being the most incompetent entity and the most effective. "The government screws up anything they touch and they are going to suddenly implant microchips in 311,000,000 people overnight without anybody being aware of it."
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Oct 23, 2012 18:06
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Ratmtattat posted:I do like that conspiracy theories so often rely on the government simultaneously being the most incompetent entity and the most effective. It actually makes perfect sense. You're forgetting that government also can't do more than one thing at the same time. That ties it all together: government can't do any of what it's supposed to do right because it's too busy preparing to implant everyone with chips that will force them to have gay abortions every day.
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Oct 23, 2012 18:09
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Sarion posted:I love the idea that in two months the government is going to start to surgically implant microchips in 300 million people, but they haven't even started to get ready or notify anyone or anything. Even if it was true, what a logistical clusterfuck it's set to be! How would you even loving monitor that? Have half the population sit at computers watching the other half, then switch over at noon?
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Oct 23, 2012 18:32
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RagnarokAngel posted:How would you even loving monitor that? Have half the population sit at computers watching the other half, then switch over at noon? Well, people will start getting headaches and twitchy muscles, then the government will announce there's a problem but it can be resolved by going to these specialty clinics found all over the country, then you get the new chip installed and then Oh wait, that's Deus Ex. That's literally more crazy than a Deus Ex plotline.
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Oct 23, 2012 19:05
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I don't really "get" the chip thing. I mean, I'd rather not have one, but what do people think President Barack Obama is going to do with the knowledge that some 45 year old home maker drives the minivan down Main St. at 3:15 PM to pick up the kids from school every day? What is the chip endgame, exactly?
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Oct 23, 2012 19:13
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Countblanc posted:I don't really "get" the chip thing. I mean, I'd rather not have one, but what do people think President Barack Obama is going to do with the knowledge that some 45 year old home maker drives the minivan down Main St. at 3:15 PM to pick up the kids from school every day? What is the chip endgame, exactly? gently caress if I know. I already filtered people's "check ins" from Facebook because I didn't give a gently caress when they volunteered the info on a regular basis, nevermind if it's constantly dumped at me at all times.
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Oct 23, 2012 19:18
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Countblanc posted:I don't really "get" the chip thing. I mean, I'd rather not have one, but what do people think President Barack Obama is going to do with the knowledge that some 45 year old home maker drives the minivan down Main St. at 3:15 PM to pick up the kids from school every day? What is the chip endgame, exactly? Barack Obama will use those chips in order to broadcast Muslim curses into the children's ears whenever they are not near a bible or a parent. Afterwards they will become communist atheist who support Nazism and want to destroy Family Values. 
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Oct 23, 2012 19:23
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To monitor the political dissent that they've been posting on their public facebook profiles.
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Oct 23, 2012 19:24
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Well, if you have done a LITERAL reading of the Book of Revelation, you'd realize that the microchip is predicted in the passages that describe the Mark of the Beast. Seriously, the thing about microchips is meant to evoke imagery from Left Behind.
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Oct 23, 2012 19:27
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This old chestnut is making it around on my facebook:quote:Had to share this--- we all like beer...
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Oct 23, 2012 20:53
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I think the part that story misses, is the part where the bartender gives them back $20, but only if the first 4 aren't allowed to "drink beer" anymore.
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Oct 23, 2012 20:58
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Zeitgueist posted:This old chestnut is making it around on my facebook:
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Oct 23, 2012 21:37
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:If that was actually written by a PhD in economics he should have his PhD revoked. If you google him literally the first thing in his bio is "I did not write that crap".
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Oct 23, 2012 21:48
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Zeitgueist posted:If you google him literally the first thing in his bio is "I did not write that crap". Note the bolded caveat, though: David R. Kamerschen, PhD posted:Contrary to Internet folklore, Dr. Kamerschen is NOT the author of "Tax Cuts: A Simple Lesson in Economics" or “Bar Stool Economics” or anything similar to that. [Additionally, he does NOT know who wrote it and he has no opinion on its merits. 
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Oct 23, 2012 21:54
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Note the bolded caveat, though: Presumably he's a lazy dude who doesn't want to waste time going back and forth with people.
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Oct 23, 2012 21:58
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Note the bolded caveat, though: Yes he'd rather avoid idiots attacking him for calling it crap and just went with 'hosed if I know or care about anything at all about that', what a monster.
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Oct 23, 2012 22:47
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The idea of someone handing that in as their PhD thesis is giving me giggle-fits.
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Oct 23, 2012 22:51
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Glitterbomber posted:Yes he'd rather avoid idiots attacking him for calling it crap and just went with 'hosed if I know or care about anything at all about that', what a monster. A Neurotic Jew posted:The idea of someone handing that in as their PhD thesis is giving me giggle-fits. I would kill to sit in on that defense, though.
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I also like that they forgot the part where: The tenth man make $30,000 a month. The ninth makes $20,000. The seventh and eighth each make $10,000. The fifth and sixth each make $7,000. And the last four each make $3,000.
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