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SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

TapTheForwardAssist posted:

I wonder what Andy would say if it was pointed out to him that Muslims make up a large chunk of the world's Creationists?


Same situation when it comes to religion sizes. "Well Christianity is huge" but then five minutes later "Catholics aren't Christians. But Christianity is x billion". he'd conveniently ignore the oppsoing issues depending on which argument needs support

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PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

SocketWrench posted:

"Catholics aren't Christians.

REminder Andy, like Rick "Baby jar" Santorum both say they're Catholic, but are part of the extreme regressive part that hated 2nd Vatican.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Did Schlafly just admit that our insane military budget is bad for the economy and we would be more prosperous if we diverted it to health, welfare, education, infrastructure, and whatever else those goddamn Scandinavian socialists spend their budget on.

Duke Igthorn
Oct 11, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

"Here are a bunch of non-religious based reasons for their winning so clearly the reason must be purely religious.

Also atheists don't constantly say that bestiality is wrong so they must love loving poodles. Checkmate!"

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

PhazonLink posted:

REminder Andy, like Rick "Baby jar" Santorum both say they're Catholic, but are part of the extreme regressive part that hated 2nd Vatican.

Well, I was going for the general religious population. The nuts will claim X people follow their religion and in the same breath state that 3/4s of them aren't Christians because they belong to certain sects. My grandmother was this way and when called pn it you just went around and around and around as she did gymnastics to explain why both sides of that coin are right.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

If a country gets less religious and loses at sports it's because atheism made them weak. If a country gets less religious and wins at sports it's because the effects of Christianity linger on right up until you start losing at sports.

Erenthal
Jan 1, 2008

A relaxing walk in the woods
Grimey Drawer

Georgia Peach posted:

First, please read the article Protestant cultural legacies. The effects of cultural legacies are often very longstanding (Malcolm Gladwell points this out this matter in his book Outliers). Norway has a Lutheran cultural legacy.

Second, I suspect there is a positive correlation between wealth and Olympics sports medals attainment and not only does Norway have a Protestant cultural legacy, but it has a large amount of oil wealth as well. In addition, it has been cheating in terms of its NATO obligations (which helps its economy, but hopefully President Donald J. Trump cracks down on Norway leeching off the USA in terms of its defense budget).[57]

Third, Norway is a cold country which certainly helps it in the Winter Olympics. Let's see the Norweigans compete against the more religious Kenyans in the Summer Olympics in the event of marathon running.

Fourth, let's compare apples with apples. Are religious Norweigans more athletic than nonreligious Norweigans? Given the data in the article Sports performance: Religious faith vs. atheism, I suspect that this is so.

Sweden is more liberal than Norway[58] and liberals have a greater propensity to having problems when it comes to bestiality in terms of advocating it and engaging in it (see: Liberalism and bestiality). And although Norwegians have received some bad press regarding bestiality[59], it is the more liberal Sweden that has received considerably more bad press regarding its recent past problems with bestiality (see: Bestiality and Sweden). By the way, unlike atheists, not a single prominent, Bible believing, Protestant has ever indicated that bestiality is ever morally acceptable (See: Atheism and bestiality )! I feel so sorry for Swedish poodles, horses and sheep ! If only the prominent atheists PZ Myers and Peter Singer would step up to the morality plate and indicate that bestiality is always wrong! If sled dog racing where an Olympic sport, given the way the Swedish have treated animals, no doubt they would continually underperform in this event despite their Protestant cultural legacy.

Checkmate atheists! You've lost yet another battle! Conservative (talk) 14:47, 25 February 2018 (EST)

I hate to admit it, but he's 100 % right about Sweden. There's a guy loving a sled-dog below my window at this very moment.

lushka16
Apr 8, 2003

Doctor of Love
College Slice
Canada, where religion is doubly as important, affirmed the legality of bestiality.

King me, athetists.

lushka16 fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Mar 8, 2018

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

lushka16 posted:

Canada, where religion is doubly as important, affirmed the legality of bestiality.

King me, athetists.

Ugh. Looks like one of those "the law was written specifically like this, so we’re sticking with that definition until Parliament makes a new law." I get the reasoning, it just feels like a stretch to limit it that way.

lushka16
Apr 8, 2003

Doctor of Love
College Slice

Avenging_Mikon posted:

Ugh. Looks like one of those "the law was written specifically like this, so we’re sticking with that definition until Parliament makes a new law." I get the reasoning, it just feels like a stretch to limit it that way.

Yeah the dissenting opinion was basically "dude... that's friggin' bestiality."

Doubly sad because it was meant to add on additional jail time to a pretty horrible person.

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through
Only 16 years for 13 counts of molesting his stepdaughters?

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.

MasterSlowPoke posted:

Only 16 years for 13 counts of molesting his stepdaughters?

Just cause it's Canada doesn't mean women suddenly are valued more than animals, jeez :rolleyes:

Old Kentucky Shark
May 25, 2012

If you think you're gonna get sympathy from the shark, well then, you won't.


And that was with the bestiality, which was apparently the most serious charge. What'd it get cut down to?

TapTheForwardAssist
Apr 9, 2007

Pretty Little Lyres

Old Kentucky Shark posted:

And that was with the bestiality, which was apparently the most serious charge. What'd it get cut down to?

Unlawful Application of Peanut Butter.

CountFosco
Jan 9, 2012

Welcome back to the Liturgigoon thread, friend.
You guys don't seem to be buying the idea that we aren't really moral agents because we lack free will.

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

CountFosco posted:

You guys don't seem to be buying the idea that we aren't really moral agents because we lack free will.

Sorry, fate decreed we don’t believe it.

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?

quote:

A nun who criticized liberal Katy Perry as someone who "represents everything we don’t believe in," accusing her of witchcraft, dies suddenly in a courtroom appearance as the nun sought to protect her convent against Perry's purchase of it. [8] A scene out of The Exorcist?

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Trufax: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/mar/11/nun-dies-in-court-while-fighting-convent-sale-to-katy-perry

She was 89 so it's not that surprising.

Georgia Peach
Jan 7, 2005

SECESSION IS FUTILE

The more you know.


quote:

Another bitter cold front mimicking the Beast From The East will hit Britain this weekend — sending temperatures plummeting to as low as 26.6 degrees fahrenheit just a fortnight before Easter.[7]

Hopes for the arrival of spring are dashed. It comes just weeks after Britain ground to a halt under intense blizzards from The Beast and Storm Emma.

Global warming?

The wealthier country of Switzerland, a beacon of European creationism[8], is generally better prepared for winter than Britain as it has an adequate amount of snow removal equipment to handle winter storms

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The little known 11th Commandment is 'thou shalt invest more in snow preparedness in regions with more snow'. Vital knowledge for desert wanderers.

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.
And yet African countries, which have a much higher rate of creationism... basically zero snowblowers! I know! Whaaaaaat???

In conclusion, Jesus invented humor.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse
It snows more means no global warming
Where does the snow come from? It's magic

Georgia Peach
Jan 7, 2005

SECESSION IS FUTILE

Finally a victory and/or defeat for Hollywood.

quote:

Another setback for liberals: the conservative all-black movie Black Panther wins the box office for the 5th straight week, and surpasses $1 billion in sales worldwide. [6]

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀


Georgia Peach posted:

Finally a victory and/or defeat for Hollywood.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Georgia Peach posted:

Finally a victory and/or defeat for Hollywood.

Wait, weren't they like denouncing this prior to it's release?

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope

Georgia Peach posted:

Finally a victory and/or defeat for Hollywood.

Let me guess: the movie conservative because Wakanda is isolationist?

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Wheany posted:

Let me guess: the movie conservative because Wakanda is isolationist?

Conservatives have been passing around a meme that the stupid libs dont understand how Black Panther is pro Trump because the main character wont allow in refugees and chooses to focus on his own people, ignoring the central conflict of the film and how in the end he decides isolating themselves was wrong.

tote up a bags
Jun 8, 2006

die stoats die

RagnarokAngel posted:

Conservatives have been passing around a meme that the stupid libs dont understand how Black Panther is pro Trump because the main character wont allow in refugees and chooses to focus on his own people, ignoring the central conflict of the film and how in the end he decides isolating themselves was wrong.

They're also black, so by liking this movie they prove they aren't racist.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

SocketWrench posted:

Wait, weren't they like denouncing this prior to it's release?

Some people see the facts and change their opinion.

Conservapedia keeps their opinion and changes the facts.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
There is a grain of truth to it: because Black Panther is doing so well there's a bunch of other movies that are going to lose out to its massive popularity, which means big bucks for one movie company and much less for many others.

It's essentially those other companies complaining they misjudged how popular Black Panther would be and so have to put their movie openings up against a very strong performer. To which we can say: lol.

Ammanas
Jul 17, 2005

Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"
There's also the idea that Wakana is for them and America is for the whites.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
There's also the fact that Black Panther has actually been criticized by some leftists for portraying black liberation as a bad/dangerous thing. One person even said "Wakandans give a white CIA agent Wakandan tech to kill other Wakandans to stop their tech going to Wakandans who were going to stage a global uprising of the oppressed." (Though I assumed the supply ships were unmanned, like his ship was.)

Twelve by Pies fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Mar 23, 2018

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


I mean now that I think about it "the CIA are your friends and you should help them do COINTELPRO" kinda is a lovely message

Crazycryodude fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Mar 23, 2018

Gynocentric Regime
Jun 9, 2010

by Cyrano4747

Twelve by Pies posted:

There's also the fact that Black Panther has actually been criticized by some leftists for portraying black liberation as a bad/dangerous thing. One person even said "Wakandans give a white CIA agent Wakandan tech to kill other Wakandans to stop their tech going to Wakandans who were going to stage a global uprising of the oppressed." (Though I assumed the supply ships were unmanned, like his ship was.)

The problem is though that Killmonger is only using black liberation as a front to reshape the world with him as it's sole ruler. He doesn't say "The oppressed will gain self determination and be allowed to form their own systems of organization." He says "The sun will never set on the Wakandan Empire".

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice
Non-Wakanda related, but it's interesting that Conservapedia, which, whenever there's a mass killing, speculates on the atheism and liberalism of the perpetrators, isn't mentioning that the Austin bomber is a conservative Christian who was home schooled

Ratoslov
Feb 15, 2012

Now prepare yourselves! You're the guests of honor at the Greatest Kung Fu Cannibal BBQ Ever!

Remember his last words? Well, the 18th century european nobleman's rationalization for why they were permitted to be rich af and enslave other nations and such is that the subjugated were complicit in their subjugation, and were degraded by it. A honorable man cannot be enslaved, for he would kill himself rather than be captured. Dude is not the good guy here.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

His last words didn't even make any sense.

Obviously his ancestors weren't the ones who jumped from slave ships to die in the ocean, they had to be the ones that reached America and gave birth to the next generation.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

VitalSigns posted:

His last words didn't even make any sense.

Obviously his ancestors weren't the ones who jumped from slave ships to die in the ocean, they had to be the ones that reached America and gave birth to the next generation.

I think this is taking his words too literally tbh.

Edit: in context of the film, I think the point is that Killmonger is rejecting BP’s and his own royal roots in favor of his American slave past, which obviously should ring hollow since he was just trying to take the throne using his royal roots, but is also profound in the fact that he can claim that background while BP can’t.

Gynocentric Regime posted:

The problem is though that Killmonger is only using black liberation as a front to reshape the world with him as it's sole ruler. He doesn't say "The oppressed will gain self determination and be allowed to form their own systems of organization." He says "The sun will never set on the Wakandan Empire".

This is on point tho. Killmonger is presented by the movie as a fallen hero, a guy who had the right idea but who was consumed by his own toxic background and hate. He would’ve been the hero, but he was denied that by the sins of his fathers.

People like Conservapedia and the manosphere interpreting the movie as conservative or pro-Trump blatantly haven’t understood the film, since it goes out of its way to say that Wakanda’s isolation and lack of engagement with the world was a bad thing. Like there’s a scene of the main character yelling at the people responsible asking them why they’ve done what they’ve done to people like Killmonger.

Lightning Knight fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Mar 23, 2018

JUICY HAMBUGAR
Nov 10, 2010

Eating, America's pastime.

Lightning Knight posted:

I think this is taking his words too literally tbh.

Edit: in context of the film, I think the point is that Killmonger is rejecting BP’s and his own royal roots in favor of his American slave past, which obviously should ring hollow since he was just trying to take the throne using his royal roots, but is also profound in the fact that he can claim that background while BP can’t.


This is on point tho. Killmonger is presented by the movie as a fallen hero, a guy who had the right idea but who was consumed by his own toxic background and hate. He would’ve been the hero, but he was denied that by the sins of his fathers.

People like Conservapedia and the manosphere interpreting the movie as conservative or pro-Trump blatantly haven’t understood the film, since it goes out of its way to say that Wakanda’s isolation and lack of engagement with the world was a bad thing. Like there’s a scene of the main character yelling at the people responsible asking them why they’ve done what they’ve done to people like Killmonger.

Yeah, reading conservative interpretations of BP is insane, none of them seem like they actually saw the movie. Almost as if they only read some wikipedia article on Wakanda and came up with an awful take on it.

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Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

JUICY HAMBUGAR posted:

Yeah, reading conservative interpretations of BP is insane, none of them seem like they actually saw the movie. Almost as if they only read some wikipedia article on Wakanda and came up with an awful take on it.

I think it’s really meant to be a repackaging if the “why is an ethnostate ok when Israel does it?” talking point, since progressives mostly don’t like Israel but generally were in favor of or ambivalent to Black Panther.

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