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DJExile posted:Ha ha ha Hulk Hogan is so dumb-hey why are you suing us? How dare someone complain about capitalism while being forced to participate in it to survive. And lol at calling out and reporting on a parent company for what they are doing, as a loving news site, being framed as a bad thing. Also gently caress Hulk hogan and anyone who defends him
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DJExile posted:They can call out their parent company all they want, but then acting like they're shocked that the parent company is offloading them is really hard to buy. They aren't particularly shocked it was fairly openly being talked about that they were looking to sell GMG before that article ran. It only burned them because a rich rear end in a top hat with a vendetta specifically attacked them in a way where their insurance for these types of things wouldn't cover them, and ran a strategy of bleed them dry of all money. I'm fine with Hogan getting whatever he was due not so fine with a billionaire specifically targeting a legal attack based around bankrupting and hopefully buying the company. , Though I think it was completely newsworthy to post that Hogan tape, as he was a marketing face of a publically traded billion dollar company. But sure, if he wanted damages then pay them up that's why news sites get that insurance.
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DJExile posted:and then just a bunch of whining about barstool that, while well-warranted, is clearly giving them all the attention they want. If it weren't for Deadspin I likely would never have even heard of Barstool
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DJExile posted:surrounded by their amazon referral links, lovely autoplay videos, and their "10 best deals". My adblocker started filtering these out at some point when it didn't used to. I don't know how but I do appreciate it. Now I can groan at seeing another Billy Haisley article even faster.
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DJExile posted:They can call out their parent company all they want, but then acting like they're shocked that the parent company is offloading them is really hard to buy. First of all, what Univision is doing is lovely regardless. They're doing the Bain Capital bullshit of buying a company, laying off a ton of people and cutting a bunch of other costs, and then turning around and selling it because now it looks more valuable with less liabilities on the books.They should be called out on it, and literally no one is "shocked" that it is happening, that's a strawman. Also, as far as the Hulk Hogan thing, you can say "they" did this or that all day long but not a single person involved with the Hogan fiasco is even at the company anymore.
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General Dog posted:If it weren't for Deadspin I likely would never have even heard of Barstool It's both good and bad that their reach is not what they think it is. Good, because thank god such a toxic shithole hasn't completely taken over. Bad, because since you need to be Very to Extremely Online to know how toxic they are, they can fly under the radar of mainstream media and sports organizations.
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Mahoning posted:First of all, what Univision is doing is lovely regardless. They're doing the Bain Capital bullshit of buying a company, laying off a ton of people and cutting a bunch of other costs, and then turning around and selling it because now it looks more valuable with less liabilities on the books.They should be called out on it, and literally no one is "shocked" that it is happening, that's a strawman. This is what literally every bankruptcy procedure/purchase is though, that's not a new thing.
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DJExile posted:This is what literally every bankruptcy procedure/purchase is though, that's not a new thing. Except they're not filing for bankruptcy? Laying off people as a mock signal to your shareholders that you're "cutting costs" (even though its barely a blip on the financial radar) is a loving atrocious thing to do. Just because it is common does not make it right and you defending the practice or criticizing the people who are pointing it out as a lovely thing is pretty dumb.
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DJExile posted:This is what literally every bankruptcy procedure/purchase is though, that's not a new thing. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Are you arguing that because it is a common thing that it shouldn't be called out? I don't understand where you're going with this. If people don't call bullshit on it at every turn because "that's the way things are" then it's never going to stop being a thing.
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I'm saying it's hard to buy gizmodo's outrage at their situation when they're the ones who put themselves in that spot in the first place. Hell, deadspin's been sued like 2-3 times since the Hogan deal on other stuff and I believe Univision had them yank 4 articles when they bought them. Now Univision wants to sell them (or at least solicit buyers) either because they feel like the gawker/onion/splinter combo is worth more than the $135mil they originally paid for it when they went bankrupt, or they just don't want to put up with the costs anymore. Mahoning posted:Except they're not filing for bankruptcy? Laying off people as a mock signal to your shareholders that you're "cutting costs" (even though its barely a blip on the financial radar) is a loving atrocious thing to do. Just because it is common does not make it right and you defending the practice or criticizing the people who are pointing it out as a lovely thing is pretty dumb. I meant when they bought Gizmodo out of bankruptcy, i should have clarified.
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DJExile posted:I'm saying it's hard to buy gizmodo's outrage at their situation when they're the ones who put themselves in that spot in the first place. Hell, deadspin's been sued like 2-3 times since the Hogan deal on other stuff and I believe Univision had them yank 4 articles when they bought them. Ok now you’re just talking out of your rear end. Dig up, stupid! 1) as I said before, none of the people involved in the Hogan thing are even with the company anymore so this “they” you keep referring to is baffling. “They”, as in the people that work there now, shouldn’t be punished or silenced from making legitimate complaints due to something former employees did. 2) Univision JUST laid off people all across GMG last week AND I believe shuttered some of the sub-sites. (Excuse me, they were given buyouts) so this has nothing to do with the post-bankruptcy restructuring that goes on all the time. 3) The Onion/AV Club had nothing to do with Gawker and weren’t affiliated at all with them when the Hogan thing went down. And yet they’re suffering too. So, in an effort to show that you still think Gawker did a Bad Thing in the Hogan case, you have completely talked out of your rear end and haven’t made a single point that makes sense.
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The employees of The Onion have nothing to do with Gawker's editorial decisions from a decade ago, nor do pretty much any of the current employees of the Gizmodo group. No one there is "shocked" that the companies are being stripped for parts, because their union has been in negotiations regarding buyouts for months. They're allowed to react like human beings to an unfortunate situation that is threatening their livelihoods
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Dexo posted:Though I think it was completely newsworthy to post that Hogan tape, as he was a marketing face of a publically traded billion dollar company. But sure, if he wanted damages then pay them up that's why news sites get that insurance. nothing on the Hogan tape they published was actually noteworthy unless you like watching an old dude have consensual sex it was just lovely celebrity gossip clickbait like most of the stuff that defined Gawker under Daulerio the racist comments were on a second sextape that the FBI had, one that its safe to say that Gawker never had it because they probably would have published it instead of the horribly boring one that destroyed their company
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exploded mummy posted:nothing on the Hogan tape they published was actually noteworthy unless you like watching an old dude have consensual sex Which is the one where he says "I ate too much pork"?
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Late on this I guess but GMG is being sold/stripped down because Univision is desperate for either cash or places to cut cost because the morons running it saddled them with a ton of debt they can't get keep up with. It doesn't have anything to do with the actual content of any of the sites and afaik it's consistently turned a profit.
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MourningView posted:Late on this I guess but GMG is being sold/stripped down because Univision is desperate for either cash or places to cut cost because the morons running it saddled them with a ton of debt they can't get keep up with. It doesn't have anything to do with the actual content of any of the sites and afaik it's consistently turned a profit. but but my narratives.
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MourningView posted:Late on this I guess but GMG is being sold/stripped down because Univision is desperate for either cash or places to cut cost because the morons running it saddled them with a ton of debt they can't get keep up with. It doesn't have anything to do with the actual content of any of the sites and afaik it's consistently turned a profit.
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Crazy Ted posted:Do debt-leveraged acquisitions ever end well? The only one I can think of off the top of my head is the Glazers buying Manchester United, but a sports team isn't exactly a normal business. The leverage isn’t what hosed up GMG, it’s Univision having no plan in place to run the whole thing
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Noctone posted:You really need to click through on the HamNo story though, it's not what you think. If you've ever read HamNo it's exactly what you think.
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Noctone posted:You really need to click through on the HamNo story though, it's not what you think. I think he's referring to it appearing directly below a referral-link-laden ad for stuff on Amazon.
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Henchman of Santa posted:People only hate HamNo for reminding us that we live in Hell He's unfashionably shrill and angry
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General Dog posted:He's unfashionably shrill and angry Not sure if you’ve noticed but it’s very fashionable to be both of those things lately
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R.D. Mangles posted:what human being exists on earth who wants to listen to mike north Old, white people.
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Rick posted:I wonder if we'll ever see teams that don't have a ton of local coverage start to get covered by the Athletic. i think they want to get all of the big teams up first, though i did see some demand for buffalo's pro women's hockey team https://twitter.com/TheAthletic/status/1019189984019058689 interesting they opened in baltimore before dc
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Dexo posted:loving lmao at espn 1000 putting North and Coppock on air Score counters by giving Other Noted lovely Old White Guy Bruce Wolf a spot for Chet Chitchat.
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Vertical Lime posted:i think they want to get all of the big teams up first, though i did see some demand for buffalo's pro women's hockey team Finally they got Wisconsin.
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Vertical Lime posted:i think they want to get all of the big teams up first, though i did see some demand for buffalo's pro women's hockey team It's going to be extremely difficult for them to compete against the Post in the DC market.
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