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Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

PCOS Bill posted:

Do you really trust your $20-70k car to a parking pawl?
No, but you can trust it to the parking brake engaged by a pedal.

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FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

I put it in gear, engage the parking brake, use wheel chocks, and attach it with a tow strap to a nearby tree.

TacoHavoc
Dec 31, 2007
It's taco-y and havoc-y...at the same time!

FogHelmut posted:

I put it in gear, engage the parking brake, use wheel chocks, and attach it with a tow strap to a nearby tree.

WHEELS TO THE CURB YOU UNSAFE BUFFOON

Captain Trips
May 23, 2013
The sudden reminder that I have no fucking clue what I'm talking about

PCOS Bill posted:

Do you really trust your $20-70k car to a parking pawl?

Parking what?

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Captain Trips posted:

Parking what?

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

Captain Trips posted:

Parking what?

PARKING PAWL

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

PARKING PETCOCK

Noeland
Feb 28, 2006

Captain Trips posted:

Parking what?

Just in case you don't actually know (because you know, goons), its a bit of metal as thick as a quarter and half the length of your pinkie that pops into one of many slots on a drum inside the transmission when you throw your (sic) automatic transmission in "Park". I'm still amazed at how many slushboxes don't roll into the car parked down hill from them because the owner ignores the existence of the lonely little pedal or lever thats actually meant to fully arrest the motion of their parked vehicle.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
- Hand operated mechanical parking brakes are correct
- Foot operated parking brakes are wrong
- Electric parking brakes are wrong
- Using a handbrake for a hill start is correct, doesn't mean you can't do it without
- Dash-mounted light switches are not rare at all, and I have no opinion on whether they are better or worse than stalk-mounted ones

AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack
I think most if not all Euro Fords for ages had the Dash mounted headlight dial. My Focus and Mondeo both did. It makes sense, it's not a control you need constant access to while driving. The only thing that was on the stalk was the Full beam/dip switch, which you do need to use a lot while driving sometimes.

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

I've never owned a car with a dial for the headlights. Stalk mounted lights or nothing :colbert:

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)
Agree with the InitialDave.
Foot operated parking brakes just wrong, and very rare here, even in the era of bench seats and column shifters.
Ford Au had the 'umbrella' handbrake on their older cars, a pull out a bar under the dash.
GM/holden Aus went even weirder in the past with bench seats and column shifters. They put it between the seat and the door on the HQ ute, it flops down so as to not be in the way when on entry/exit. The floor was reserved on older holdens for high beam headlight or windshield washer switches.

Headlight switches on the dash are not abnormal, my old Falcons had it (EA, EL, AU), though they put it on a stalk like most Japanese vehicles I'm used to on the 2004 BA Falcon ute I have.
But Holden put it on the dash for the 2005 VZ commodore I have.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Sep 20, 2014

stump
Jan 19, 2006

Fo3 posted:

Ford Au had the 'umbrella' handbrake (seen Japanese vans similar), a pull out a bar under the dash.
The non-us Ford (Mazda) Ranger has one of those. Prefer it to the usual one beside gearstick, the only problem is I keep punching the dash trying to find the handbrake when I get back into my BMW. At one point I also regularly drove a Renault Megane which had a weird transverse grip too, and the chance of me going to the right handbrake for car I was driving was like 50%.

Some vans (renault master or traffic I think) have them on the door side of the driver to further confuse things. But I think Landrover Defenders take the cake for "gently caress ergonomics, that'll do".

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Noeland posted:

Just in case you don't actually know (because you know, goons), its a bit of metal as thick as a quarter and half the length of your pinkie that pops into one of many slots on a drum inside the transmission when you throw your (sic) automatic transmission in "Park". I'm still amazed at how many slushboxes don't roll into the car parked down hill from them because the owner ignores the existence of the lonely little pedal or lever thats actually meant to fully arrest the motion of their parked vehicle.

Yeah really shocked and amazed here that a purpose built part has done it's job for decades worth of cars except when you manage to gently caress it up and then your car just rolls like 6 inches when you out it in park.

wallaka
Jun 8, 2010

Least it wasn't a fucking red shell

Noeland posted:

Just in case you don't actually know (because you know, goons), its a bit of metal as thick as a quarter and half the length of your pinkie that pops into one of many slots on a drum inside the transmission when you throw your (sic) automatic transmission in "Park". I'm still amazed at how many slushboxes don't roll into the car parked down hill from them because the owner ignores the existence of the lonely little pedal or lever thats actually meant to fully arrest the motion of their parked vehicle.

Maybe they don't all break the pawls because that little bit of metal is pretty damned strong and you don't understand math as well as the engineers that designed those millions of cars.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

The Multipla has the handbrake on the door side of the drivers seat, I keep reaching for it there when I get back in my e46.

Noeland
Feb 28, 2006

wallaka posted:

Maybe they don't all break the pawls because that little bit of metal is pretty damned strong and you don't understand math as well as the engineers that designed those millions of cars.

Don't forget that your fellow planet dwellers aren't as smart as you, the engineers didn't.

wikipedia posted:


Most vehicle manufacturers[3] and auto mechanics[4] do not recommend using the transmission's parking pawl as the sole means of securing a parked vehicle, instead recommending it should only be engaged after first applying the vehicle's parking brake. Constant use of only the parking pawl, especially when parking on a steep incline, means that driveline components, and transmission internals, are kept constantly under stress, and can cause wear and eventual failure of the parking pawl or transmission linkage. The pawl might also fail or break if the vehicle is pushed with sufficient force, if the parking brake is not firmly engaged. Replacement can be an expensive operation since it generally requires removing the transmission from the car.

It is highly inadvisable to use the parking pawl to stop a vehicle in motion. Modern parking pawls are connected to a safety mechanism that prevents the pawl from engaging unless the vehicle is stopped first. The pawl mechanism is generally not strong enough to stop a vehicle in motion, if it engages at all. Under that much stress, the pawl may simply break off in the transmission, leading to costly repairs.

Zemyla
Aug 6, 2008

I'll take her off your hands. Pleasure doing business with you!

Ghost Farts posted:

It has a warning light to warn you of malfunctioning warning lights.
What happens when it malfunctions?

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

The fire is a pretty good warning of that.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Cakefool posted:

The Multipla has the handbrake on the door side of the drivers seat, I keep reaching for it there when I get back in my e46.
See also Saabs with steering column cowls scratched to hell. drat muscle memory.

Not that it was so much in the "wrong" place, but my dad had a scooter back in the day where the reserve fuel tap was somewhere in the vicinity of the pillion's thigh. Apparently desperately trying to do something about running out of fuel halfway round a roundabout is made even better when a girl in a miniskirt is screaming in your ear about exactly what the hell you think you're up to. :pervert:

INCHI DICKARI
Aug 23, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Coming up on this weeks episode of Unsolved Mysteries:

PCOS Bill
May 12, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Money doesn't buy taste.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





ALL OF YOU FUCKERS posted:

:words::words::words:

READ THE loving TITLE ASSHOLES

Post terrible car poo poo, not terrible parking brake arguments.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

SaNChEzZ posted:

I've never owned a car with a dial for the headlights. Stalk mounted lights or nothing :colbert:

Plebes. I haven't owned a car with manual headlights since 2001. I don't even think I know where the headlight controls on my car are. :colbert:

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

SaNChEzZ posted:

I've never owned a car with a dial for the headlights. Stalk mounted lights or nothing :colbert:

My first car had a pull switch on the dash for the lights and a floor mounted high beam switch.

This, except white with a black vinyl top:



:corsair:

Root Bear
Nov 15, 2004

DARKEST SKETCH
Front subframe bolt from a 97 Buick LeSabre. Coulda been worse, I suppose...

Terrible Robot
Jul 2, 2010

FRIED CHICKEN
Slippery Tilde

Root Bear posted:

Front subframe bolt from a 97 Buick LeSabre. Coulda been worse, I suppose...



:stonk: How did that not snap in half at the slightest touch of a wrench.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Terrible Robot posted:

Root Bear posted:

Front subframe bolt from a 97 Buick LeSabre. Coulda been worse, I suppose...



:stonk: How did that not snap in half at the slightest sight of a wrench.


Fixed.

Asshole Bicycle
Nov 4, 2007
I'm just gonna leave this here for you fellas.













The workmanship look pretty good. I don't know how to feel.

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

It was an SSR, nothing of value was lost.

Bouillon Rube
Aug 6, 2009


that's actually a huge inprovement over the styling of a regular ssr

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry
It kind of reminds me of Frankenstein's car in Death Race 2000

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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T1g4h
Aug 6, 2008

I AM THE SCALES OF JUSTICE, CONDUCTOR OF THE CHOIR OF DEATH!

Cubes are always terrible. I cannot stand those, xBs, or Kia Souls.

bandman
Mar 17, 2008

That one took a second. I was like "why the gently caress would the license plate on a Cube have the formula for glucose...ohhhhhh."

Should be C12H22O11, but I suppose that wouldn't fit the plate format.

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010



Saw a Jetta treated in a similar fashion earlier in the day but I was driving at the time. My GF's area seems to be a Mecca for this crap. Sadly I didn't get his long thin upward thrusting tailpipes in this shot, they must have stuck out at least 6" from the rear bumper, it was almost a weak attempt at bosozoku.

Edit: Changed giant robots to holy land.

Disgruntled Bovine fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Sep 22, 2014

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
Mecca, but yeah. I'm seeing more and more of that

The Royal Nonesuch
Nov 1, 2005


Don't lie; you whispered sweet nothings in it's rear window.

Also tear off the winch and send it to me because they don't deserve it and I can't afford it.

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Somewhat Heroic
Oct 11, 2007

(Insert Mad Max related text)




I'm going to give this a pass for the subtlety and for it being a white car. Here in Utah the plates are now a mix of letters and numbers. It used to be 3 numbers (space) 3 letters.

Bonus points if it's a science teacher.

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