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The Vosgian Beast posted:https://thebaffler.com/salvos/degrasse-tyson-kriss-atheists Wait, so the problem with modern atheists is that the world sucks and since atheists are realists then they're embracing this lovely world instead of wanting to change it? Is that the argument going on here?
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The Vosgian Beast posted:https://thebaffler.com/salvos/degrasse-tyson-kriss-atheists yeah. He's been getting less worse lately, often waiting until near the end of a piece to poo poo the bed instead of the second paragraph. Oh well, I'm sure there's a future for him, er, somewhere. In completely unrelated topics, there's a good coupla posts in the Internet Culture Warriors thread about how losers become alt-right losers.
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Oct 17, 2017 20:50
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As someone who has been sexually assaulted it makes me feel like a loving idiot to have defended Sam Kriss.
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Oct 17, 2017 20:56
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J_RBG posted:As someone who has been sexually assaulted it makes me feel like a loving idiot to have defended Sam Kriss. Team politics is a powerful drug.
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Oct 17, 2017 20:59
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CharlestheHammer posted:Team politics is a powerful drug. shut up
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CharlestheHammer posted:Team politics is a powerful drug. Please don't
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Oct 17, 2017 21:33
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J_RBG posted:shut up What? That is what happened. It sucks but it's a good lesson to learn. I ain't judging anyone.
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Oct 17, 2017 22:33
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Sam was always an odious oval office; it’s just that before today he got a lot of slack because he was our odious oval office.
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Oct 17, 2017 22:33
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See also: Bill Maher.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Team politics is a powerful drug. Can we see transition as a "living suicide"? In the previous discussion, some posters discussed how transition was like a living suicide: trying to erase all traces of the old person, calling those who attempt "deadnaming", inflicting pain to themselves by various surgeries, etc. It is a very daring and interesting comparision!
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CharlestheHammer posted:What? That is what happened. That’s not how you respond to someone admitting to being a victim of assault, dude.
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Oct 17, 2017 22:59
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Darth Walrus posted:That’s not how you respond to someone admitting to being a victim of assault, dude. Oh fine I guess
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Oct 17, 2017 23:19
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TinTower posted:Sam was always an odious oval office; it’s just that before today he got a lot of slack because he was our odious oval office. fsvo "our"
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Oct 18, 2017 00:11
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Well, yes. I always thought he was a self-absorbed socialism-through-LARPing little poo poo and I’m glad to be proved right. Funny thing is, I knew most of the student left of Leeds around the time he was there. He wasn’t there or at Feminist Society stuff.
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Oct 18, 2017 00:25
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CharlestheHammer posted:Oh fine I guess You "guess"?
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Oct 18, 2017 00:28
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TinTower posted:Well, yes. This might have been back when he was still busy getting repeatedly banned from YOSPOS for calling people autistic retard faggots
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Oct 18, 2017 00:30
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He wishes he was as cool as the dude who almost got expelled a week before dissertation deadline day for flipping a SWP stall over.
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Oct 18, 2017 00:44
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lovely behavior I know but it's so, so hard not to on some level gloat about this. Kriss is an unprincipled contrarian given to extreme politics because he feels validated by and seeks out the rejection of people he considers inferior. So he's basically the exact Twitter equivalent of a guy who thinks it's really hot when you say "Stop, no, don't."
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The Time Dissolver posted:lovely behavior I know but it's so, so hard not to on some level gloat about this. Kriss is an unprincipled contrarian given to extreme politics because he feels validated by and seeks out the rejection of people he considers inferior. So he's basically the exact Twitter equivalent of a guy who thinks it's really hot when you say "Stop, no, don't." indeed, but i must note in the middle of all this the irony of NRx shits going on about kriss when this sort of behavior is something they admire, but it's more that they're admonishing him for being a left-wing LARPing creep rather than a fascist creep. https://twitter.com/KANTBOT20K/status/920446965950840832
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As a rule it's usually a good idea not to be smug or glad that somebody's a sexual predator, but hey whatever floats the thread's boat
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J_RBG posted:As a rule it's usually a good idea not to be smug or glad that somebody's a sexual predator, but hey whatever floats the thread's boat It's more a case of "I knew this guy was really a poo poo all along so it's a relief to have tangible evidence".
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:It's more a case of "I knew this guy was really a poo poo all along so it's a relief to have tangible evidence". At least our most recent Sam Kriss fan hasn't been by to explain why us autists are totally wrong about Sam,
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:It's more a case of "I knew this guy was really a poo poo all along so it's a relief to have tangible evidence". Again, not a good look. edit: eg: TinTower posted:I’m glad to be proved right. Trying my best to be charitable to you folks, but you really all should know better than not to feed into the whole 'should have guessed the guy was a sexual predator' mindset for reasons that should be obvious to everyone here. Jrbg has a new favorite as of 16:20 on Oct 18, 2017 |
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You know, I hated him before too, but I'm not being smug about it because it's not worth that, it's just sad and lovely and unpleasant and I'm glad he's outed now and will have a harder time being a gross creep and sad that it happened in the first place God why is every other dude garbage, man.
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Fiver says that he finds another writing gig before the year's out.J_RBG posted:Trying my best to be charitable to you folks, but you really all should know better than not to feed into the whole 'should have guessed the guy was a sexual predator' mindset for reasons that should be obvious to everyone here. I'm glad I was proved right that he was a contrarian shitlord who LARPs as a Maoist from his parents' mansion, not glad he's been outed as a predator.
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TinTower posted:I'm glad I was proved right that he was a contrarian shitlord who LARPs as a Maoist from his parents' mansion, not glad he's been outed as a predator. I'm glad you could derive a small measure of satisfaction from it.
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TinTower posted:Fiver says that he finds another writing gig before the year's out. I'm glad he's outed as a predator because that means people can take steps to avoid and defend against him.
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TinTower posted:Fiver says that he finds another writing gig before the year's out. Editors love one thing above all in a writer, and that's reliability. If his copy is usable and on-time, he'll find a home somewhere.
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Fully expect this to result in his “being redpilled” and switching sides because “evil feminists tried to destroy him” or something like that.
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divabot posted:Editors love one thing above all in a writer, and that's reliability. If his copy is usable and on-time, he'll find a home somewhere. Of course, "usable" and "readable" are two different things. Kriss is the absolute worst kind of philosophy-wank.
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TinTower posted:Of course, "usable" and "readable" are two different things. Kriss has written one genuinely good thing ever, and that's his review of the DSM-5 as a novel, which is of actual literary quality. That made me want to seek out and read more of his stuff. Unfortunately, I was disappointed.
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divabot posted:Kriss has written one genuinely good thing ever, and that's his review of the DSM-5 as a novel, which is of actual literary quality. That made me want to seek out and read more of his stuff. Unfortunately, I was disappointed. Wow, that's some really loving stupid lit major masturbation right there.
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Andrew Hickey: The Basilisk Murders When Sarah arrives at a tech conference she’s meant to be covering for her magazine, she thinks it’ll be a few days away from her marriage problems on a tropical island. Instead, she’s surrounded by sleazy men who want to build a computer God, thousands of miles from home and her wife. She hates where she is, and the people who are around her. But when someone starts killing those people off, Sarah has to investigate. What is the Basilisk? Who is committing the murders? Why is everyone talking about blackmail? And why is everyone drinking fish? Surrounded by Russian billionaires, gropey bloggers, alt-right computer scientists, and philosophy professors, can Sarah solve the murders and win back her wife before the Singularity? And can she do it without having to deal with her racist ex-girlfriend? Part cozy mystery, part technothriller, part biting satire, The Basilisk Murders is a hilarious, gripping, story of irrational rationality, staying kind in a hostile world, and building a better sandcastle. * Kindle UK * Kindle US * Hardback [Andrew Hickey spent a while on LessWrong until he realised all these people were terrible; this is where he works off his surplus illiberalism concerning them. I read an early draft and snickered lots. I strongly recommend this to anyone with the correct associations for the word “Basilisk,” pretty much anyone in this thread.] divabot has a new favorite as of 13:24 on Oct 19, 2017 |
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divabot posted:I read an early draft and snickered lots. I strongly recommend this to anyone with the correct associations for the word "Basilisk,"; pretty much anyone in this thread. Too bad cyber-Yahweh has replaced the previous sci-fi association with the word basilisk, which was creative, compelling, and creepy. Also a fantastic weapon for a murder mystery.   Langford basilisk trivia: the unsuccessful and buggy 3rd title in the Elite series, Frontier:First Encounters, has news feeds you can subscribe to, and if you continue playing the game long after the main story is over, one of them slowly begins a story about the spread of BLIT fractals, as a series of news articles. I have never been able to find any mention of this anywhere online, who wrote it, or how it ended, but I just know there's an interesting story behind that story within a story because F:FE was released in 1995, and Langford didn't mention it in 1999 when talking about the appearance of basilisk fractals in works by other authors, even though the unfolding plot of the F:FE one was very similar to a short story Langford published in 1999. lol: 
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there wolf posted:Someone has never gotten drunk with HR employees. HR is on the downlow always the department with the most drama, engineering is the department with the most public drama. Because all engineers think of themselves as smart, capable people, any serious disagreements over how things ought to be done inside (or God forbid) outside the department lead to at least two deeply proud people not-giving-an-inch at one another as hard as possible. HR dude might be loving half the office, but he keeps it quiet.
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Relevant Tangent posted:HR is on the downlow always the department with the most drama, engineering is the department with the most public drama. Because all engineers think of themselves as smart, capable people, any serious disagreements over how things ought to be done inside (or God forbid) outside the department lead to at least two deeply proud people not-giving-an-inch at one another as hard as possible. HR dude might be loving half the office, but he keeps it quiet. I'm really glad I figured out a long time ago that work goes way smoother if you just state your position clearly (or your objections to some other position) and then if the team doesn't go with you loving drop it and whine about your dumb coworkers on something awful dot com
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Relevant Tangent posted:HR is on the downlow always the department with the most drama, engineering is the department with the most public drama. Because all engineers think of themselves as smart, capable people, any serious disagreements over how things ought to be done inside (or God forbid) outside the department lead to at least two deeply proud people not-giving-an-inch at one another as hard as possible. HR dude might be loving half the office, but he keeps it quiet. I've never worked a white collar job, so I have no idea but I've always presumed that engineering is more likely to select for people that refuse to let management or HR mitigate interpersonal conflicts because they just reject the idea that feelings have any place in the workplace; they are responding the way they are out of rational thought and practicality!
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there wolf posted:I've never worked a white collar job, so I have no idea but I've always presumed that engineering is more likely to select for people that refuse to let management or HR mitigate interpersonal conflicts because they just reject the idea that feelings have any place in the workplace; they are responding the way they are out of rational thought and practicality! This is absolutely true about my last job, where my boss quite literally yelled stuff like "FEELINGS DON'T loving MATTER!" at the team on multiple different occasions In fairness he was actually a pretty good, friendly developer that was forced into a management position and really did not know how to cope with that and so just fell back on his experience in the soviet military and yelled a lot 
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there wolf posted:I've never worked a white collar job, so I have no idea but I've always presumed that engineering is more likely to select for people that refuse to let management or HR mitigate interpersonal conflicts because they just reject the idea that feelings have any place in the workplace; they are responding the way they are out of rational thought and practicality! Yeah, a lot of (white, male) engineers are genuinely awful and suffer from massive Dunning-Kruger
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BlNGZunYM8 I'm kink shaming Contra so much now.
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