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Excels
Mar 7, 2012

Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!

The Taint Reaper posted:

Also is Conception II worth getting? Because it seems like it's going to be ages until Atlus releases the next persona game.

Do you enjoy implied sex for the purposes of procreation with anime girls? This may be the game for you.

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Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
There is no actual sex in that game, just FYI.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

Excels posted:

Do you enjoy sex for the purposes of procreation with anime girls? This may be the game for you.

Oh so the name has something that actually has to do with game mechanics. I thought it was like merging powers like captain planet to create minions.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Honestly, that's basically what happens. There's some innuendo and bad jokes but it isn't nearly as blatant as people make it out to be.

It's kind of a meh dungeon crawler though. There were a few jokes in there that made me actually laugh, but the writing's pretty forgettable too. Play it if you're desperate for something to play, but it's definitely not a replacement for Persona or anything.

EDIT: Actually, the most memorable thing about the game is its OST. That's worth looking up on youtube if nothing else, it's pretty unique.

PureRok
Mar 27, 2010

Good as new.

The Taint Reaper posted:

Oh so the name has something that actually has to do with game mechanics. I thought it was like merging powers like captain planet to create minions.

That is basically exactly what it is. They just hold hands and channel energy to create little matryoshka star babies.

Excels
Mar 7, 2012

Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!
There was a Persona 4 porno movie though.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

Atlus only published it, fyi, so don't put any stock on the name Atlus being on the box.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Yeah Conception's just pretty much a dull dungeon crawler with hilarious music and an almost interesting gameplay system if everything wasn't so focused on the most simple bullshit. I like a few characters and the voice acting is inconsistent in its quality. If you just want a dungeon crawler it's not going to be better or worse anything. I pretty much bought it because a friend saw a video of it and told me it was so stupid and I love stupid games.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



The next Persona game is gonna be later this year, it's a 3DS game in the style of Etrian Odyssey though. The next real one will be early next year. Any time you look at a game and think "Oh, this will be like Persona, I should buy it!" just stop and walk away.

Excels
Mar 7, 2012

Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!
I played Etrian Odyssey once. I found some rats inside a boot and they murdered my whole party.

Also EO is that game where an official Atlus USA trailer had Homestuck references in it.

Excels fucked around with this message at 03:01 on May 15, 2014

Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

The greatest of feasts

Excels posted:

There was a Persona 4 porno movie though.


Cake Attack posted:

Atlus only published it, fyi, so don't put any stock on the name Atlus being on the box.

I'll admit it, I laughed.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer

Manatee Cannon posted:

The next Persona game is gonna be later this year, it's a 3DS game in the style of Etrian Odyssey though. The next real one will be early next year. Any time you look at a game and think "Oh, this will be like Persona, I should buy it!" just stop and walk away.

Mind Zero is next in line for that honor.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
I really doubt PQ is even going to be an interesting game to play or see the story of, so you're probably set up for disappointment with that one too (I should probably actually play an EO game now that they're on sale like ImpAtom told me though). With the possibility P5 might also be bad, you might not even get the luxury of the Persona game satisfying your Persona game itch. Truly the only games that will be fun and worth your time are P4AU and P4D.

Danbri
Jan 10, 2012

Try your ability! Do it!

Orgia Carnaval posted:

I really doubt PQ is even going to be an interesting game to play or see the story of, so you're probably set up for disappointment with that one too

Having played Etrian Odyssey Untold, I super disagree. They've got the talent and the experience to pull this weird-rear end mix off. It is certainly not a game built for everyone, Etrian Odyssey itself is really only around to fill a very specific hole, but it can totally work.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



Orgia Carnaval posted:

I really doubt PQ is even going to be an interesting game to play or see the story of, so you're probably set up for disappointment with that one too (I should probably actually play an EO game now that they're on sale like ImpAtom told me though). With the possibility P5 might also be bad, you might not even get the luxury of the Persona game satisfying your Persona game itch. Truly the only games that will be fun and worth your time are P4AU and P4D.

Your examples to go to are the two games in the franchise that have the least to do with the gameplay of the rest of the series?

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

My only worry for PQ is that they might make it too easy. But as long as "hard" mode or whatever is as challenging as an EO games normal mode I don't really care.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022

Manatee Cannon posted:

Your examples to go to are the two games in the franchise that have the least to do with the gameplay of the rest of the series?

Yeah, because they have all of the characters everyone loves and the tone set for them. That's worth far more to most people than the gameplay.


Danbri posted:

Having played Etrian Odyssey Untold, I super disagree. They've got the talent and the experience to pull this weird-rear end mix off. It is certainly not a game built for everyone, Etrian Odyssey itself is really only around to fill a very specific hole, but it can totally work.

Fair enough.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

Arc System Works, aside from having a decades long pedigree for making good 2D anime fighting games, already made a good game out of P4A and Atlus has the team responsible for creating arguably the most popular Japanese portable rhythm game series ever making P4D. I don't see why anyone would think they would screw those up all things considered.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
I didn't say they were? Those are the only two games I'm excited for out of the four we know of and the two I know will definitely be fun. Well, with some of the balance changes they're making in P4AU it could stupid as poo poo, but still fun.

Danbri
Jan 10, 2012

Try your ability! Do it!

Orgia Carnaval posted:

I didn't say they were? Those are the only two games I'm excited for out of the four we know of and the two I know will definitely be fun. Well, with some of the balance changes they're making in P4AU it could stupid as poo poo, but still fun.

This is fair; let us all remember that we know essentially nothing about 5 besides teaser speculation and thus it is legitimate to withhold excitement, and Atlus USA hasn't said a word about Persona Q, let alone that Etrian Odyssey is in even more niche territory than SMT itself.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
I admit we don't know anything about P5, but it should just as easily be mentioned that no one should be bringing that up in the context of "a Persona game that is going to satisfy your taste for a Persona game" because that game could have a completely new style of play. PQ, from all of the gameplay I've seen looks like it's just another generic JRPG setup with Persona characters and I'm gonna try Etrian Odyssey pretty soon, so if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and you can buy me all the titles you want saying how much of a shithead I am or just call me one, that's much cheaper.

Color Printer
May 9, 2011

You get used to it. I don't
even see the code. All I see
is Ipecac, Scapular, Polyphemus...


Danbri posted:

Atlus USA hasn't said a word about Persona Q

Ummmmmm...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdW_Y46DXiA

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



It's crazy to assume either game will be bad before we know anything about them, though. Especially since we seem to be basing a lot of the negativity off their weird Japan only publicity. The last couple numbered Persona games were good and Strange Journey is the proof of concept for Q. Maybe they'll suck but there's no proof of that and past examples point to the exact opposite.

Though I guess I'm the guy that thinks P4A has a poo poo, poorly implemented story that doesn't even work for the style of game Arena is and also thinks P4D is just stupid/ the most pandering fanwank bullshit ever so I guess take my opinion with a grain of salt.

Danbri
Jan 10, 2012

Try your ability! Do it!

You know what I meant. That's more than the 30 seconds 5 gave us, sure, but besides fan translation a lot's a relative unknown.


Orgia Carnaval posted:

I admit we don't know anything about P5, but it should just as easily be mentioned that no one should be bringing that up in the context of "a Persona game that is going to satisfy your taste for a Persona game" because that game could have a completely new style of play.

Oh I wasn't making a point against you. There's no real reason to get excited for 5 yet besides NEW PERSONA GAME and there's so much unknown that I don't blame anybody for a "wait and see" policy.

Color Printer
May 9, 2011

You get used to it. I don't
even see the code. All I see
is Ipecac, Scapular, Polyphemus...


Danbri posted:

You know what I meant. That's more than the 30 seconds 5 gave us, sure, but besides fan translation a lot's a relative unknown.

I misread something along the way and thought you meant with regards to it coming over at all, sorry. :shrug:

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Danbri posted:

You know what I meant. That's more than the 30 seconds 5 gave us, sure, but besides fan translation a lot's a relative unknown.

E3 is next month and the game isn't coming out for months after that. It's getting more press in Japan because it is coming out sooner there.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022

Danbri posted:

Oh I wasn't making a point against you. There's no real reason to get excited for 5 yet besides NEW PERSONA GAME and there's so much unknown that I don't blame anybody for a "wait and see" policy.

Ah I see. I am bad at reading, so I apologize.


Manatee Cannon posted:

It's crazy to assume either game will be bad before we know anything about them, though. Especially since we seem to be basing a lot of the negativity off their weird Japan only publicity. The last couple numbered Persona games were good and Strange Journey is the proof of concept for Q. Maybe they'll suck but there's no proof of that and past examples point to the exact opposite.

Though I guess I'm the guy that thinks P4A has a poo poo, poorly implemented story that doesn't even work for the style of game Arena is and also thinks P4D is just stupid/ the most pandering fanwank bullshit ever so I guess take my opinion with a grain of salt.

Strange Journey is the exact kind of niche thing that does not dissuade me from thinking PQ could be bad, because Strange Journey is a very "love it or hate it" kind of game and I was not one of its fans. P5 is gonna quite possibly be a new gameplay style like P3 was coming off of P2, running on new software/hardware that Atlus has only done one other completely different type of game for (Which was also love it or hate it), and quite possibly could be coming from what they think people liked from Persona, it is not uncommon things like this end up awkward or bad. That being said, some of that is only based off pattern recognition and belief that Atlus might have to use this as their testing ground for JRPGs on HD consoles. Those could be good games and I could be very full of poo poo (quite possible), but they are not unfounded.

Compared to P4AU which already has another version of the game with fun gameplay and the new characters combined with new shadow stuff has me very interested and so long as the gameplay remains as fun as it is, that game can be an unbalanced mess and I will get a ton out of it. P4D is being made by the Project Diva guys who make fun rhythm games, combining that with Meguro's already good music (And the remixes he's probably making specifically for that game), and the fact I can put Chie and Kanji into dance battles where they have to serve shadows is amazing and makes me optimistic about both of those games.

Hace
Feb 13, 2012

<<Mobius 1, Engage.>>

Orgia Carnaval posted:

I admit we don't know anything about P5, but it should just as easily be mentioned that no one should be bringing that up in the context of "a Persona game that is going to satisfy your taste for a Persona game" because that game could have a completely new style of play. PQ, from all of the gameplay I've seen looks like it's just another generic JRPG setup with Persona characters and I'm gonna try Etrian Odyssey pretty soon, so if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and you can buy me all the titles you want saying how much of a shithead I am or just call me one, that's much cheaper.

If you do actually play EO instead of just looking at videos of it, don't be a punk wimp and just look up all the best builds on some Wiki. That's the lame way to play.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Don't worry Hace, I'll play it the cool guy way, just for you.

Hace
Feb 13, 2012

<<Mobius 1, Engage.>>
:o:

The Machine
Dec 15, 2004
Rage Against / Welcome to
I really hope we get an SMT1 port on something other than iOS soon. As someone without a current iOS device, I'm bummed I can't play it. poo poo, I even bought it as if to say "YES, I WANT MORE OF THIS" - hopefully someone was listening!

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax

Delsaber posted:

Nocturne does this to people. We've all got the thousand-yard stare, man.

You don't know what hell is until you get trapped in the Amala Labyrinth on Hard Mode without a full party.

Do you hear me? You don't know what hell is!

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled

BottledBodhisvata posted:

You don't know what hell is until you get trapped in the Amala Labyrinth on Hard Mode without a full party.

Do you hear me? You don't know what hell is!

Then there's this rear end in a top hat

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009


I knew it was going to be that video before I even clicked it. Classic.

neetengie
Jul 17, 2013

Shittiest taste in anime and video games.
I'm glad that poo poo never happened to me.


The Machine posted:

I really hope we get an SMT1 port on something other than iOS soon. As someone without a current iOS device, I'm bummed I can't play it. poo poo, I even bought it as if to say "YES, I WANT MORE OF THIS" - hopefully someone was listening!
theyll never port anything else again because its not persona and its all your fault

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine
I bought SMT 1,SMT 2, and SMT if... for about a buck each for a hard copy.

they're not expensive games to import and you can play them on a US SNES if you just take off the plastic nubs with a set of pliers.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

More people probably have problems with the language than the actual playing of the game. It's pretty easy to get copies of the originals or any re-release.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

ImpAtom posted:

More people probably have problems with the language than the actual playing of the game. It's pretty easy to get copies of the originals or any re-release.

I played through using a guide, but supposedly some people have had success now using the real time Augmented reality translate apps that are on the ipad and iphone. Not sure if it works on CRTs if you're going for the authentic 16 bit experience since the screen refresh rate may screw it up.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

The Taint Reaper posted:

I played through using a guide, but supposedly some people have had success now using the real time Augmented reality translate apps that are on the ipad and iphone.

Wow, seriously? That's kind of amazing if true.

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Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

The greatest of feasts

The Taint Reaper posted:

I bought SMT 1,SMT 2, and SMT if... for about a buck each for a hard copy.

they're not expensive games to import and you can play them on a US SNES if you just take off the plastic nubs with a set of pliers.

Out of interest, where did you find them? I got a copy of SMT1 off Ebay a while back for about £10, but it was just the cart, no box or instructions.

Did come with a very nice teabag though.

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