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Almost got smoked (again) today by someone at a stop sign taking a left who decided to punch it and jump out on a collision course with me as I was in the middle of turning onto the road they were on. This time it was real close too and I just barely got out of the way in time. At this rate I'm not sure if my new car is going to make it through the summer unscathed. It's definitely time for a dashcam (and start using the horn in such situations, which I usually don't like doing) before I end up on the side of the road arguing with some retard and having my car tied up in the body shop for the summer. I'd take pleasure going after the person involved and loving them over as much as possible...but I'd much rather not have random people collide with me because they lack comprehension of right of way and just continue on my way unharmed.
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Mariana Horchata posted:Almost got smoked (again) today by someone at a stop sign taking a left who decided to punch it and jump out on a collision course with me as I was in the middle of turning onto the road they were on. This time it was real close too and I just barely got out of the way in time. At this rate I'm not sure if my new car is going to make it through the summer unscathed. It's definitely time for a dashcam (and start using the horn in such situations, which I usually don't like doing) I'll never understand this - that's the point of the horn, an audible warning to other vehicles for situations just like yours. Not picking on you or anything, it just baffles me that so few people use a feature for its intended use - I know people get pissed when you honk, but gently caress 'em, if they were paying attention other people wouldn't need to wake their rear end up with a horn.
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Jun 8, 2016 22:07
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I'm generally thinking more about avoiding the accident than blowing my horn. Plus, if I do hit them, I don't really want my hand on top of my airbag.
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Jun 8, 2016 22:14
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MrLonghair posted:
Apparently it's mustangs.
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Jun 8, 2016 22:20
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BOOTY-ADE posted:I'll never understand this If you read this thread using your horn is just going to send a road-rager into a frenzy that will likely result in vehicular or regular homicide. The best thing to do in such a situation is meekly wave and give that person the right of way, and if they hit you just immediately accept 100% fault and give them whatever they want because you never know what a mentally unstable person might do if questioned in any way.
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Jun 8, 2016 22:22
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Deeters posted:Plus, if I do hit them, I don't really want my hand on top of my airbag.
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Jun 8, 2016 22:55
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The issue is having any buttons at all on the center portion of the wheel. If you got a hand between you and the wheel in a wreck, it's going to get pinned between your chest and the airbag and something's going to get bruised or worse. To avoid that, all functions need to be thumb operable when you got both hands on the wheel.
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Jun 8, 2016 23:01
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Cars really need two horns; the loud horrible one that says "wake up fuckwit you're about to cause an accident" and a quieter nice one that says "hey the light's changed/you can make a right turn on red here/thanks for letting me merge". The respective buttons would have  and  symbols on them, of course
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Jun 8, 2016 23:37
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Find the first one. https://youtu.be/0rmBwCR1HVg That could fit somewhere.
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Jun 8, 2016 23:51
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BOOTY-ADE posted:I'll never understand this - that's the point of the horn, an audible warning to other vehicles for situations just like yours. Not picking on you or anything, it just baffles me that so few people use a feature for its intended use - I know people get pissed when you honk, but gently caress 'em, if they were paying attention other people wouldn't need to wake their rear end up with a horn. I really dont understand either, but my best guesses are: these instances where i almost get hit mid turn happen so quickly that im 100% fixated on avoiding getting hit (and honking earlier before turning would just confuse the other person and they would probably think im letting them go in their mind), I have a new car with a horn in the middle of the wheel and ive always had cars with side buttons for the horn that let you use it without moving ur hands at all, and lastly im also used to dealing with bad drivers who 'don't see you' frequently when i'm on my motorcycle which has a total joke of a horn so i do lots of motorcycle type avoidance tricks which have also become part of my repertoire in my car such as driving with lights on in dangerous spots, swerving repeatedly to increase visibility and prevent SMIDSYs, and tapping the brakes to get the attention of the phonegazer behind me when having to slow down quickly). My car (Fiesta ST) is also pretty loud so im not really sure the horn would be doing anything that the car isnt already but i definitely do agree with you that should certainly get back in the habit of using it in these frequent situations instead of mostly just when those in front of me are staring down at their phone when the light is green and about to turn red. With my old 95M Miata I do recall installing and using a set of Nautilus air horns not long after i bought it and immediately after had my fill of close calls (but still never had an accident myself in 15+ yrs of driving) quite often due to similar factors which increased the risk of accidents (which was concerning given the Miata's lack of safety, esp in side collisions) from issues such as: tiny low car = major risk of SMIDSY as well as ppl thinking because your going >30mph with the engine wailing = definitely going straight, too fast to be turning left (nevermind both of my flashing left directionals on the corner lamp and mirror). Mariana Horchata fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Jun 9, 2016 |
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Jun 9, 2016 00:29
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bizwank posted:Cars really need two horns; the loud horrible one that says "wake up fuckwit you're about to cause an accident" and a quieter nice one that says "hey the light's changed/you can make a right turn on red here/thanks for letting me merge". The respective buttons would have Cars already come with 3 horns! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNODObAa7OU This is the former, the latter is just one blip, the normal horn is if you hold the button down as long as required 
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Jun 9, 2016 01:15
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xzzy posted:The issue is having any buttons at all on the center portion of the wheel. If you got a hand between you and the wheel in a wreck, it's going to get pinned between your chest and the airbag and something's going to get bruised or worse. To avoid that, all functions need to be thumb operable when you got both hands on the wheel.  This is the wheel I'm talking about (well the Lincoln variant, anyways). The horn buttons are the ones on the upper spokes, pretty much exactly where your thumbs naturally rest anyways. They were perfectly placed to always be easy to hit without any airbag danger.
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Jun 9, 2016 03:28
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Holding your hands at 10 and 2 is a great way to have two broken arms when the airbag goes off. Those buttons are not much better than a center horn.
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Jun 9, 2016 06:13
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EightBit posted:Holding your hands at 10 and 2 is a great way to have two broken arms when the airbag goes off. Those buttons are not much better than a center horn. How else are you supposed to hold them?
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Jun 9, 2016 07:03
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No steering wheel airbag crew sound off! 94 suburban
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Jun 9, 2016 07:05
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nsaP posted:No steering wheel airbag crew sound off!  93 Passat. No airbag deployment made rebuilding it a breeze!
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Jun 9, 2016 07:16
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nsaP posted:No steering wheel airbag crew sound off! 87 Toyota FX16. If I get into some kinda front end collision at speed I won't have any legs left Though I only really use it for paper routes or big grocery runs since I got the Ninja. When I splattered a doe at 75mph in the 93 Volvo 240 wagon I did not have an airbag deploy, which was nice for maintaining control while getting on to the shoulder. It would have gotten home just fine too, if the battery hadn't been punctured by deer hoof. Scavenged a front end off a 740 and kept it for another year before it started devouring transmissions.
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Jun 9, 2016 08:35
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Ambaire posted:How else are you supposed to hold them? I believe current driver's ed programs teach 3 and 9.
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Jun 9, 2016 13:57
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EightBit posted:Holding your hands at 10 and 2 is a great way to have two broken arms when the airbag goes off. Those buttons are not much better than a center horn.  Sounds like being near the steering wheel is the danger here. Either remove the airbag or stay at home in the basement in the dark under a blanket because everything will break your arms and kill you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5Otla5157c
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Jun 9, 2016 14:28
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Uthor posted:I believe current driver's ed programs teach 3 and 9. 4 and 8 with shuffle steering is what's recommended now (and taught to police), but I don't think it's filtered down to all the education programs.
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Jun 9, 2016 14:48
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3 and 9 is what race car drivers do and it is what I'll do.  .But seriously the 8 and 4 feels completely unnatural and unsafe. You additionally are supposed to keep you hands cupped and not gripping the wheel. In other words your thumbs are to be on the outside of the wheel, not inside. This is specifically so you don't break your thumbs when the airbag rips you hands away from the wheel.
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Jun 9, 2016 14:56
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um excuse me posted:3 and 9 is what race car drivers do and it is what I'll do. Race car drivers don't have airbags =P. Though if you went with a six-point and HANS all the time that would work pretty well! 8 and 4 feels weird at first but I've been doing it for a few years now and I love, love, love it. I still do 9 and 3 on track with a bit of shuffle steering when necessary (I loathe crossing my hands up and am pretty solid with shuffle now), but on the road 8 and 4 feels great for puttering around. Edit: I shuffle steer because my track cars both have manual racks that are pretty long lock-to-lock, and holding a heavily-weighted wheel at 100+ degrees through corners sucks. Edit the Second: This is me on track, and yeah I shuffle steer too much but it just feels so natural to me at this point I can't help it. I'll have to really try to avoid it next time. As it is, though, I don't really have any issues counter-steering for oversteer, and I feel like if I can effectively countersteer an old 911 on track in the rain I must be doing something right. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7IIZGcGXmE Dave Inc. fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Jun 9, 2016 |
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Jun 9, 2016 15:02
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX6Msptajz8 One less Crossfire in the world and a left lane camper gets taken out. There's a little part of me that wishes he had hit the Impala who changed in to the passing lane without looking for faster approaching traffic first. wolrah fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Jun 9, 2016 |
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Jun 9, 2016 17:19
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"You can't pass me, Im a race car driver!" /drifts into wall after gentle turn
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Jun 9, 2016 17:27
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I'm honestly surprised that doesn't happen more on that stretch of 77. Aside from Akron PD not having resources to do traffic enforcement I don't know why either, but seems like there's always some rear end in a top hat camping in the left lane who speeds up when you need to pass.
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Jun 9, 2016 17:29
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Geoj posted:I'm honestly surprised that doesn't happen more on that stretch of 77. Aside from Akron PD not having resources to do traffic enforcement I don't know why either, but seems like there's always some rear end in a top hat camping in the left lane who speeds up when you need to pass. I kinda wish I knew more of the ST owners in the area to figure out who the cammer was. The Youtube poster doesn't seem to be the actual source of the video, I assume it was ripped from someone's Facebook.
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Jun 9, 2016 18:07
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As usual, everybody in that video is an idiot. Undertaking, left lane hogging, speeding, not checking mirrors, inability to recover from the slightest of oversteer, yelling at Siri instead of loving pulling over...
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Jun 9, 2016 18:45
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bolind posted:As usual, everybody in that video is an idiot. Undertaking, left lane hogging, speeding, not checking mirrors, inability to recover from the slightest of oversteer, yelling at Siri instead of loving pulling over... undertaking is 100% legal in many US states, and the only way to actually get anywhere if there's a stack of loving nimrods staring at each others asses/navels in the passing lane.
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Jun 9, 2016 19:09
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I'm just surprised to see that sort of behavior from a Crossfire driver. It's one of those "sporty" cars that I've never in my life seen being driven with any sort of gusto. I remember when it came out the ads bragging about it being tested in Germany and all that but it just seemed like another ugly, overpriced and underpowered Chrysler and is usually driven like one.
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Jun 9, 2016 19:40
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I would have pulled over where it was safe, but probably react more like this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2kovsuvfqg&t=69s
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Jun 9, 2016 19:45
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bolind posted:As usual, everybody in that video is an idiot. Undertaking, left lane hogging, speeding, not checking mirrors, inability to recover from the slightest of oversteer, yelling at Siri instead of loving pulling over... Dude with the camera didn't do anything really wrong beside yelling at siri. Maybe if he got going really fast, but it didn't look like it. Undertaking is sadly a (legal) necesity in the US.
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Jun 9, 2016 20:26
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bolind posted:As usual, everybody in that video is an idiot. Undertaking, left lane hogging, speeding, not checking mirrors, inability to recover from the slightest of oversteer, yelling at Siri instead of loving pulling over... Why in the world would he pull over? Calling in the accident is more than he was morally or legally obligated to do for the guy.
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Jun 9, 2016 20:38
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If I didn't "undertake" a hundred people a day and move between lanes as necessary I'd be stuck doing 40 on the highway behind chucklefucks who think one person in the right lane means a line of cars needs to fill the left lane to a solid block of cars in the left lane and no, none of them can move back to the right because there's a car a half mile ahead too.
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Jun 9, 2016 20:48
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I pretty much don't even make an attempt to get someone to move over. Some guy is camping in the left lane, whatever, I just go around on the right. No point in wasting my time and getting angry about it.
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Jun 9, 2016 22:09
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That's the thing that I don't get about this thread, you really sit behind someone for miles in the left lane if they won't move over? If you're cruising along in the middle lane and someone is going slow in the left do you change over behind them and make them move over so you're technically correct?
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Jun 9, 2016 22:49
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davebo posted:I'm just surprised to see that sort of behavior from a Crossfire driver. It's one of those "sporty" cars that I've never in my life seen being driven with any sort of gusto. I remember when it came out the ads bragging about it being tested in Germany and all that but it just seemed like another ugly, overpriced and underpowered Chrysler and is usually driven like one. It looked less like "wanna race bro" and more like passive aggressive OH YOU WANT TO PASS ME? HOW DARE YOU PASS ME. THIS IS MY LANE AND I WILL BE IN THE FRONT gently caress YOU gently caress YOU gently caress YOU douchebaggery, which I am not at all surprised to see from a Crossfire driver.
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Jun 9, 2016 22:50
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Uthor posted:What are you supposed to do when you're in a roundabout and an emergency vehicle comes up behind you? Complete the roundabout like normal and then pull over?
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Jun 9, 2016 22:55
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http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/4511.28 Looks like undertaking is indeed legal in Ohio. http://youtubedoubler.com/iwHG Disgruntled Bovine fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Jun 9, 2016 |
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Jun 9, 2016 23:08
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I'll be honest, that's a lot closer to what my reaction would have been. I deal with far too many of that sort of jackass every day to not have some schadenfreude when they gently caress up without hurting anyone else.
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kastein posted:It looked less like "wanna race bro" and more like passive aggressive OH YOU WANT TO PASS ME? HOW DARE YOU PASS ME. THIS IS MY LANE AND I WILL BE IN THE FRONT gently caress YOU gently caress YOU gently caress YOU douchebaggery, which I am not at all surprised to see from a Crossfire driver. 
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