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Minimal sax is good but once someone starts blaring a Clarence Clemons solo I'm out. There's just something about it that makes people want to go hog wild. As soon as I hear a sax I'm thinking there's a high probability this song just went in the shitter. I guess didgeridoo is up there too for me but has claimed way fewer victims.
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8/9 string guitar.
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# ? Dec 27, 2016 19:07 |
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6 string guitar
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# ? Dec 27, 2016 19:11 |
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Snowy posted:We've been having a friendly debate at work about which instrument is most likely to ruin a song by its presence. So far the leading contender is saxophone. The only guy who passionately argues otherwise has a son who started sax lessons last year. I say it's not too late to steer the kid away, I mean he can't go much worse besides getting into some hardcore harmonica soloing. Ukulele
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# ? Dec 27, 2016 19:12 |
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https://twitter.com/kennyg/status/802577740180418569 Sax is cool sometimes
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# ? Dec 27, 2016 19:13 |
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I love my JEM, but this is just too much. The new JEM 77 Woody
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# ? Dec 27, 2016 19:18 |
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The ratio of good to bad saxophone is like 1:10000000000 though. It is by far the most annoying popular instrument.
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# ? Dec 27, 2016 19:22 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaoLU6zKaws
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# ? Dec 27, 2016 19:29 |
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Fats Domino has tons of sax and I won't hear anything bad about him.
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# ? Dec 27, 2016 20:24 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfRxeD34unQ That's some sax.
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# ? Dec 27, 2016 22:34 |
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Lost boys saxophone guy https://youtu.be/LpuwcINDHnQ
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# ? Dec 27, 2016 22:43 |
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sax makes me think of Snatcher https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O7VTw1E3b4 which also features awesome 80s synth
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# ? Dec 27, 2016 22:59 |
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Thumposaurus posted:Lost boys saxophone guy Tim Cappello's shtick is always appropriate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOSNg_cV2m0
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Daric posted:I have no idea where to ask this but I played saxophone all through middle school and now, 15 years later, I'd like to pick it back up. I know nothing about the industry though and don't know where to start looking for a tenor sax to learn on. Step up from that is something like a used Yamaha. Stable, reliable, can get it worked on anywhere, but not necessarily the most exciting thing out there. if you're buying new and have the money, the best-made saxes today are coming out of Yanagisawa. Easy to blow, flawless mechanicals, good ergos (assuming you like the Mark VI-style table and that kind of poo poo, which virtually everybody does), and just all-around great saxes. Pricey, though. You can always check out the various places to find used instruments until you find that perfect tenor for you personally, but that's mostly based on luck and happenstance and you won't necessarily even know what you're looking for until you find it. And then you start loving around trying different mouthpieces....
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# ? Dec 27, 2016 23:19 |
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Is there anything Yamaha can't do?
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# ? Dec 27, 2016 23:27 |
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...and the pitch! posted:Is there anything Yamaha can't do?
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# ? Dec 27, 2016 23:37 |
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For horns watch the shopgoodwill auctions. I nabbed a sweet old conn trumpet for a friend off there for pretty cheap.
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# ? Dec 28, 2016 06:25 |
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oh my god just how dead inside do you have to be to shoo that man away oh right rentacops lol
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Thumposaurus posted:For horns watch the shopgoodwill auctions. I nabbed a sweet old conn trumpet for a friend off there for pretty cheap.
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SubG posted:They started out in the music business. That's why their logo is three tuning forks. Just because a company started out in the music business doesn't mean they continue to care to make good things. Yamaha is a weird beast.
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Shugojin posted:Just because a company started out in the music business doesn't mean they continue to care to make good things. Yamaha has made some truly weird products over the years. I don't think they've made very many that were just outright crap.
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Shugojin posted:Just because a company started out in the music business doesn't mean they continue to care to make good things. I don't know what their reputation was back in the Nineteenth Century or whatever, but for decades and decades they've been pretty much the king of pawn shop instruments because they make the default student instrument (or one of the two or three standard choices) for so many different instrument types. Not really known for high-end poo poo, though. Like yeah there are diehard Yamaha guys that will swear by their particular instrument (in saxes this is particularly true with the older purple logo instruments, which have the kind of cachet that say '80s MIJ Squiers have). But mostly it's amazing cheap instruments, really solid and reliable step-up instruments, and then well-for-that-money-you-could-get-a-[whatever]-instead high end instruments.
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# ? Dec 28, 2016 20:59 |
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Their drums/drum hardware line is pretty solid - ballhead adjuster snare stand, mmmmmmm yeahhhhh. Recording Customs are a joy to behold if you can afford them, and true to the name they seem to shine in a nice studio space with just enough dampening. Very "natural" sounding drums that reflect the player's intention. I wish I had Recording Customs On that note, can I post Stupid Drums poo poo? That's a Staccato Drums kit - fibreglass shells with flared open resonant "horns" instead of a traditional resonant head. They're loving LOUD - i mean, really, room-rattlingly loud - if you like that sort of thing, and not poo poo at all, really. Very '70s, arguably extremely tacky and kind of stupid, but not poo poo. But this one is somehow attached to a motorbike? With rototoms? Here's a more, umm, traditional Staccato setup with ALL THE TOMS IN THE WORLD. strangemusic fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Dec 28, 2016 |
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I think I already posted in response to Staccato drums before, but it still applies.
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# ? Dec 28, 2016 22:09 |
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Octobans, technically, rototoms are basically just the heads mounted on a metal frame, these have tube shells.
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Allen Wren posted:Octobans, technically, rototoms are basically just the heads mounted on a metal frame, these have tube shells. Oh right. I forgot what those were actually called.
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As a guitar player I love massive drum kits because they're so gaudy and stupid but now that I've been writing my own drum parts using drum machines I can laugh at them from a practicability standpoint because most people use about 7 drums tops. For example, here's the full setup that I found stock and keep cluttered like this for having options in case I feel like getting spicy with crashes. I have some goofy poo poo running behind the scenes with stuff blended together like four different snares mixed together and each tom is actually two toms but you get the idea. And here's realistically what a normal person uses 99.9% of the time for songs: And a real, actual drummer would likely cut out the right crash (the one over the toms) because that's one less stand to worry about and one less $200 cymbal to crack.
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# ? Dec 29, 2016 00:15 |
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They would also just get a double bass pedal instead of adding a second bass drum if they needed it.
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Gringostar posted:They would also just get a double bass pedal instead of adding a second bass drum if they needed it. A drummer I worked with lamented that on every double bass pedal he had tried, the second one feels wrong compared to the standard one. I mean he chose the double pedal anyway because it was either have a slightly weird feeling pedal or have to gently caress with a second bass drum and all the boring work that entails e: vvv Yes exactly that stuff. Shugojin fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Dec 29, 2016 |
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Gringostar posted:They would also just get a double bass pedal instead of adding a second bass drum if they needed it. I cut out the second bass drum because I got tired of EQing and mixing a second one so instead I just mimic a left pedal with slightly weaker midi hits. So basically the software version of a double bass pedal vs two bass drums. With some fancy packing, most people's drum kits can fit into a honda civic but throw another bass drum in there and you're looking at a van just for one dude, let alone having to worry about buying, tuning, and not losing yet another piece of equipment.
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# ? Dec 29, 2016 01:27 |
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When i was drumming i always wanted to try 2 bass drums rather than the pedal as trying to balance the tension of the 2 pedals was a pain in the arse. And it looks cool. Thankfully space, money and motivation prevented me from doing this. I miss playing drums but as I'm a lefty the few gigs i did do years ago were a nightmare, only one bill did we share with another lefty drummer. Yet i play guitar normally. My co-ordination is the Stupid Music poo poo.
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NonzeroCircle posted:When i was drumming i always wanted to try 2 bass drums rather than the pedal as trying to balance the tension of the 2 pedals was a pain in the arse. And it looks cool. Thankfully space, money and motivation prevented me from doing this. The only time I worked with a lefty drummer he could alternate between open handed and traditional, and it was a godsend for changeovers. He played lefty for preference but if we were pushed he would just suck it up and open hand for the show so we didn't have to tear everything down. I've also worked with guys who do the two kick thing and it sucks and soundmen will hate you. Almost as much as they did when we used to rock up with two drummers. They really hate that.
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# ? Dec 29, 2016 11:23 |
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I can fudge it right handed on the lovely electric kit at work for keeping time/doing breakbeat type stuff (though i do swap the pedals round) but punk or metal and anything requiring toms kinda goes out the window. Having that sort of general knowledge of how to drum does help a lot with programming drums I've found- when my mate does demos he'll have two toms, a snare and a ride all playing at once throughout the track, drives me nuts
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darkwasthenight posted:
Most drummers I've put on shows with who play two kick drums have been using triggers anyway. We put on punk/metal/hardcore shows where there's usually three to five bands on the bill and the bands can borrow our backline. Switching amp heads, cymbals, snare and kick pedals is usually the extent of how much changeover we accept, so if someone needs their drum setup with 20 toms and two kicks they have to bring their own and accept that their drums are used by all the bands.
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kjetting posted:We put on punk/metal/hardcore shows where there's usually three to five bands on the bill and the bands can borrow our backline. Switching amp heads, cymbals, snare and kick pedals is usually the extent of how much changeover we accept, so if someone needs their drum setup with 20 toms and two kicks they have to bring their own and accept that their drums are used by all the bands. that's a good policy nothing's dumber in a small room than having like three different backlines lined up like a matryoshka doll and the opener has to basically stand in place
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The Muppets On PCP posted:that's a good policy I was stage manager at a local festival once and one of the five bands on my stage that day was a popular soft, melancholy pop act here in Norway. In their tech rider they had these demands: - all instruments on the stage floor, set up in a tight circle facing the front man - preferably close to the edge of the stage - nothing on moveable platforms, or even platforms at all - no instruments or mics could be moved or touched by human hands between sound check and gig time - Their 32 channels on the mixer should NOT be used by any other acts LUCKILY it was a big stage and ditto mixer. So we managed to set them up a little left of stage center and make a plot where we wheeled all the other just as big artists in and around their drums, amps, hammond, leslie, persian rug and table lamps. If we had had two bands with the same demands it would have been a logistical nightmare.
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I am digging the Ronnietar
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# ? Jan 1, 2017 03:10 |
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Agile continues to be drunk That fuckin multiscale Kahler is throwing the rest of it even more drunk lookin
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# ? Jan 1, 2017 16:02 |
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So would that be more or less horrible than a 12 string to keep in tune.
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Kilometers Davis posted:So would that be more or less horrible than a 12 string to keep in tune. As long as two lowest strings are in tune, it won't matter.
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