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pubic works project posted:Oh thanks for killing Commander Steel too, DC you heartless assholes. What, you think being bulletproof would help? Someone pointed out there was someone wearing a Green Lantern costume in that panel too.
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I had forgotten until just now that Bendis did those talking head interview/confessional pages in his 2010 Avengers and New Avengers series. I actually liked them, but I understand a lot of people found them self-indulgent at the time?
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Sep 26, 2018 14:30
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Mr Hootington posted:citizen steel oh my bad edit: it just amuses me to no end that DC was killing it on the comics-front with Rebirth while Marvel was stumbling a bit. Now they just executed the perfect "hold my beer" moment.
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Sep 26, 2018 14:36
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I am curious if all the dead heroes are connected because they may have had significant changes happen to them because of Flashpoint/New 52. Wally, Roy, Citizen Steel, and Lagoon Boy all do, but I do not know enough about Blue Jay and Joto/Hot Spot to know if they follow this.
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Sep 26, 2018 14:56
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pubic works project posted:edit: it just amuses me to no end that DC was killing it on the comics-front with Rebirth while Marvel was stumbling a bit. Now they just executed the perfect "hold my beer" moment. Idunno, no one of any importance was lost except arguably Arsenal. Wally had already been gone and replaced for like 6 years now. Fans wanted Barry back. Gotta feel bad for Hot Spot, though. Mr Hootington posted:I am curious if all the dead heroes are connected because This seems like more of a strike against the heroes and 'redemption' in general. Especially with the carving on the wall and whoever's making Harley and Booster think the other one did it. The puddlers remark seems like the big clue. It's a very specific term, one not even Batman is familiar with. nofather fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Sep 26, 2018 |
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Sep 26, 2018 17:38
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nofather posted:Fans wanted Barry back.
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Sep 26, 2018 17:57
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BrianWilly posted:Hahahhaha what? No. No one wanted Barry back. Hey, Geoff Johns is technically a fan
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Sep 26, 2018 18:00
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TwoPair posted:Hey, Geoff Johns is technically a fan Yeah. A fan wanted him back, just it was the one with all the power in the DCU.
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Sep 26, 2018 18:16
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Was Citizen Steel actually in anything from new 52/Rebirth or did he randomly reappear for this miniseries?
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Sep 26, 2018 18:27
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Top Gun posted:Was Citizen Steel actually in anything from new 52/Rebirth or did he randomly reappear for this miniseries? IIRC the last time he was seen was in Earth-2.
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Sep 26, 2018 18:36
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At least I got a good laugh today out of someone saying that fans wanted Barry Allen over Wally West.
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Sep 26, 2018 18:48
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Wait, who said that? I thought the question was "does anyone want Barry Allen back?" Not "would anyone like us to bring Barry back and push Wally completely out of the picture AND THEN erase him from loving existence a few years later only to replace him with an angry teen version but JUST KIDDING the really real Wally is back now and let's just make him a murderer now okay."
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Sep 26, 2018 19:07
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I actually liked Barry Allen but I absolutely did not want him back (same with Todd). The reason Hal jordan was brought back was because they did him nasty in the 90s and DC was tired of getting death threats from hardcore fans all the time. No one was writing in to tell dc to bring back Barry.
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Sep 26, 2018 19:10
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Android Blues posted:Also, for God's sake, someone with a doctorate in psychology wouldn't quote Freud as if it was this great big momentous thing. Like, have you read Freud? He's frequently ridiculous and almost entirely irrelevant to any modern psychoanalytic theory or treatment strategy. Quoting him doesn't read as a smart reference to Harley's academic credentials, it makes her look like a poser who doesn't know her own doctoral field. Harley's a psychiatrist, though, and you know how they are. Seriously though, training in psychoanalytic and psychodynamic therapies still includes a lot of Freud, if only as background/history. Not where I expected to be discussing this but I guess it fits with all the dicks lately.
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Sep 26, 2018 19:39
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Rhyno posted:Wait, who said that? I thought the question was "does anyone want Barry Allen back?" Not "would anyone like us to bring Barry back and push Wally completely out of the picture AND THEN erase him from loving existence a few years later only to replace him with an angry teen version but JUST KIDDING the really real Wally is back now and let's just make him a murderer now okay." It's a few posts up. Someone said that it was the fans that wanted Barry back. And I laughed. Was a nice joke.
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Sep 26, 2018 19:49
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Yeah I mean, I like Barry and all...but I grew up with Wally and I prefer him 100%. I don't want Barry to die...but I'd rather Wally be in the Justice League.
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Sep 26, 2018 19:59
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Barry should go back to 1985 and sacrifice himself in the Crisis on infinite Earths like he is supposed to. Or baring that just have him go to the future with Iris and retire there
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Sep 26, 2018 20:22
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What's the more annoying direction Johns took the flash: bringing Barry back to replace Wally; or turning Impulse into Kid Flash and making him boring?
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Sep 26, 2018 20:29
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Wheat Loaf posted:What's the more annoying direction Johns took the flash: bringing Barry back to replace Wally; or turning Impulse into Kid Flash and making him boring? Bringing back Barry and having him accomplish what extant, crazed Hal Jordan, superboy-prime and Alex luther couldn't so he could save his mom. Mr Hootington fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Sep 26, 2018 |
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Sep 26, 2018 20:33
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Why is it so hard for DC to comic properly?
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Sep 26, 2018 20:50
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Top Gun posted:Barry should go back to 1985 and sacrifice himself in the Crisis on infinite Earths like he is supposed to. Or baring that just have him go to the future with Iris and retire there Totally down for that since it's supposed to happen anyways. Tornado Twins gotta come from somewhere. Wheat Loaf posted:What's the more annoying direction Johns took the flash: bringing Barry back to replace Wally; or turning Impulse into Kid Flash and making him boring? I actually didn't mind Impulse becoming Kid Flash, so I'm going with Barry replacing Wally. It's a real annoyance to me because I absolutely love Johns' run with Wally.
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Sep 26, 2018 20:52
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Dawgstar posted:Why is it so hard for DC to comic properly? They were doing well for awhile. E&C has the sales numbers memorized so he could tell us if it is driven by falling numbers.
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Sep 26, 2018 20:53
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Top Gun posted:Barry should go back to 1985 and sacrifice himself in the Crisis on infinite Earths like he is supposed to. Or baring that just have him go to the future with Iris and retire there The Crisis on Infinite Earths was retconned as never happening now.
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Sep 26, 2018 21:08
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Still enjoying Bendis' Action Comics. Not much happened this issue, but I love the focus on the Daily Planet. Also, Yanick Paquette ain't a bad fill-in.
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Sep 26, 2018 21:46
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Honestly I'd say the biggest change that has happened at DC since Rebirth is that all of the set-up for Rebirth was done in tight collaboration/"showrunning" with Geoff Johns (and from what I can infer a lot of Pat McCallum) and in the past two years Johns has stepped down from his Chief Creative Officer role (and I have no idea what Pat McCallum is doing because he never does interviews or anything) but it's been pretty evident reading between the lines of the actual comics and people talking and etc. that whatever roadmap that was supposed to build to Doomsday Clock that Johns put together in 2015 has a) been repeatedly delayed and changed in ways that made a lot of creators not named Geoff Johns particularly happy b) is sort of getting thrown out in favor of ideas that Bendis, King, etc. are pitching
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Sep 26, 2018 22:19
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I feel like Johns has been sidelined in favor of Snyder which sucks because Snyder has loving awful story ideas
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Sep 26, 2018 22:34
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Top Gun posted:I feel like Johns has been sidelined in favor of Snyder which sucks because Snyder has loving awful story ideas Going to go to boot for Snyder here, at least he isn't trying to bring back his fave bronze age hero at the expense of character growth of any new character.
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Sep 26, 2018 22:39
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Top Gun posted:I feel like Johns has been sidelined in favor of Snyder which sucks because Snyder has loving awful story ideas Snyder has some stinkers but overall I think he's had more hits than misses
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Sep 26, 2018 23:05
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Bleeding Cool is reporting that Norm Breyfogle died on Monday
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Sep 26, 2018 23:10
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drat. I have his Batman collection. Time to dig in.
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Sep 26, 2018 23:26
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Chinston Wurchill posted:Harley's a psychiatrist, though, and you know how they are. The backstory around Harley's schooling is kind of a mess because canonically I'm pretty sure her doctorate is in psychology, but she worked as a psychiatrist at Arkham, which...you know, she wouldn't have been qualified for that. Which I guess might explain a lot? But also doesn't seem to be what the writing around her has historically been going for.
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Sep 26, 2018 23:37
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In the Injustice series it's implied she has a medical degree.
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Madkal posted:Going to go to boot for Snyder here, at least he isn't trying to bring back his fave bronze age hero at the expense of character growth of any new character. The first thing Snyder did in justice League was recycle super friends concepts and bring back 80s starman so I dunno if he’s too far off
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Top Gun posted:I actually liked Barry Allen but I absolutely did not want him back (same with Todd). Kill Barry fire Hal's corpse back into the Sun and make him Spectre again. Kyle all day errday, gimme my mecha generating Gen X GL.  Also it sounds like I dodged another "Identity Crisis" bullet with Heroes in Crisis. Though I doubt we are going to get more sock puppets and goofy guess avatars this time around. 
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I'm still into Doomsday Clock. I laughed when Jon ported them in front of the screen in a movie theatre just to illustrate a point he was making and freaked out the audience. Edit: I read that on the bus in to work today and someone must have been watching cause I heard some conversation about crossovers and the major death in Heroes In Crisis behind me. It was amazing hearing randos talk about brand new comics news (or any sort of comics news.) Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Sep 27, 2018 |
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Ah, I was avoiding spoilers so I see you guys already talked about it last night. Suffice to say I'm quite sad about this turn of events. I know it's probably a fake out but I thought this was going to be the only place for me to read about Wally for awhile until HiC was done, and now he's just another in a giant list of corpses for other characters to react to. So I guess another 9 months of misery for me, thanks Didio and King. Not buying anymore of this, I feel like I would just be a constant source of negativity and anger if I continued to read about it and comment on it here.
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Sep 27, 2018 02:22
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Two Tone Shoes posted:Ah, I was avoiding spoilers so I see you guys already talked about it last night. ONE OF US ONE OF US 
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Sep 27, 2018 02:47
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Well I just don't want to fiscally support this nonsense at this point. Maybe later reviews will change my mind but I shouldn't feel so dejected and sad over a stupid comic book like I do this one. It's like all the goodwill and happiness I had from The Rebirth special has inverted. Sad tears instead of happy, I guess.
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Any intended shock in what happened is essentially muted to nothing since we never really got attached to Sanctuary and its denizens so even with the deaths of relatively major characters, it's almost totally disconnected from everything else. HiC may as well be not canon with how not built up it was before it got wrecked.
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Xelkelvos posted:Any intended shock in what happened is essentially muted to nothing since we never really got attached to Sanctuary and its denizens so even with the deaths of relatively major characters, it's almost totally disconnected from everything else. HiC may as well be not canon with how not built up it was before it got wrecked. Yeah, we've had mentions of Sanctuary before, but we've never seen it. Never spent any time here.
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