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BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

No, I'm asking you you dumb butt.

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ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

RedSpider posted:

I am going to thoroughly enjoy this film. You should, too.

It won't have any of the grit of it's 70s and 80s contemporaries, and all of the bad politico conservative talking points of today's modern discourse without any of the self-awareness.

It would be pretty dope if the movie had hosed up repercussions for Willis' murders. Like killing that drug dealer in the trailer leaves a power vacuum in his neighborhood and his rivals murder the dead drug dealer's entire family (something that actually happened in Chicago) since Willis took out the guy keeping the peace, then the neighborhood turns into a killing field since both sides start ramping up the revenge murders (something that's currently fueling the gang violence that's plaguing the city at the moment).

Or he has to make the choice of killing a 10 year old black kid because he's got the heater on him.

This movie's not going to have any balls tho, and it'll just be Bruce Willis playing tag with a bunch of tatted up cartoon felons.

ruddiger fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Aug 4, 2017

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

ruddiger posted:


It would be pretty dope if the movie had hosed up repercussions for Willis' murders. Like killing that drug dealer in the trailer leaves a power vacuum in his neighborhood and his rivals murder the dead drug dealer's entire family (something that actually happened in Chicago) since Willis took out the guy keeping the peace, then the neighborhood turns into a killing field since both sides start ramping up the revenge murders (something that's currently fueling the gang violence that's plaguing the city at the moment).

Or he has to make the choice of killing a 10 year old black kid because he's got the heater on him.

This movie's not going to have any balls tho, and it'll just be Bruce Willis playing tag with a bunch of tatted up cartoon felons.

Bahahahahahahahahahaah nobody watching a loving movie called Death Wish wants any of your "realistic 2017 takes" on it.

Any "grit" you project on it and *especially* the self-awareness you project on it are all through the lens of nostalgia and post-decade interpretations.

They liked a lovely/awesome revenge flick then and that's all they will like about it now.

Colonel Whitey
May 22, 2004

This shit's about to go off.

BonoMan posted:

Bahahahahahahahahahaah nobody watching a loving movie called Death Wish wants any of your "realistic 2017 takes" on it.


I do

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Lol then maybe go find a think piece and not a movie called "Death Wish"?

poo poo, just go rewatch Breaking Bad.

Colonel Whitey
May 22, 2004

This shit's about to go off.

BonoMan posted:

Lol then maybe go find a think piece and not a movie called "Death Wish"?

poo poo, just go rewatch Breaking Bad.

Or maybe we could hold movies to a standard of being good and not total trash

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Colonel Whitey posted:

Or maybe we could hold movies to a standard of being good and not total trash

Wrong thread for that, I think.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Colonel Whitey posted:

Or maybe we could hold movies to a standard of being good and not total trash

Brother there is a LOT of space between "good" and "total trash"... a movie called Death Wish, a remake of a revenge porn flick, rests comfortably in between that gap.

I'm sorry if you expected more from "Death Wish."

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

BonoMan posted:

Bahahahahahahahahahaah nobody watching a loving movie called Death Wish wants any of your "realistic 2017 takes" on it.

Any "grit" you project on it and *especially* the self-awareness you project on it are all through the lens of nostalgia and post-decade interpretations.

They liked a lovely/awesome revenge flick then and that's all they will like about it now.

You need to watch a little movie called the Exterminator if you think those movies were nothing but minority/drug addict murder fests.

I mean, that's what they were at their base, but the protagonists were usually painted just as hosed up as the people they were murdering. Robert Ginty's a broken vietnam vet in Exterminator, not the hero the city needs at it's darkest hour or whatever the gently caress's going on in the new Death Wish trailer. This movie's not going to come anywhere close to what films like Combat Shock or Rolling Thunder were doing with the genre a good 30-40 years earlier.

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012

BonoMan posted:

Bahahahahahahahahahaah

Evil...

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010

BonoMan posted:

Bahahahahahahahahahaah nobody watching a loving movie called Death Wish wants any of your "realistic 2017 takes" on it.

Any "grit" you project on it and *especially* the self-awareness you project on it are all through the lens of nostalgia and post-decade interpretations.

They liked a lovely/awesome revenge flick then and that's all they will like about it now.
drat you're one cool dude

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Punkin Spunkin posted:

drat you're one cool dude

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007


This looks like it'll stop being even marginally amusing after 10 minutes, maybe.



gently caress Charles Bronson, he threw away a perfectly fine ice cream. Who does that?


Colonel Whitey posted:

Or maybe we could hold movies to a standard of being good and not total trash

Let's at least wait for it to turn out to be trash before calling it such. It'll probably be poo poo.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Seriously, watch this trailer and then tell me the new Death Wish trailer looks anywhere near as interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZLGWRI169k

Eezee
Apr 3, 2011

My double chin turned out to be a huge cyst

Despite what I said about the new version, I actually think this is pretty cool. They play dramatic music over that scene instead of ACDC and there's a certain cheesiness in it.
I don't know how the rest of the movie is, but in the trailer for the new movie it seems more like "gently caress yeah, let's kill criminals" and in this scene it's played very matter-of-factly.

Maybe I just have a problem with the music choice? Who knows.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Vagabundo posted:

This looks like it'll stop being even marginally amusing after 10 minutes, maybe.

Biggest surprise in the trailer was, "8 episodes"

And that's not a joke

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

ruddiger posted:

Seriously, watch this trailer and then tell me the new Death Wish trailer looks anywhere near as interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZLGWRI169k

This is super loving good. If you haven't seen it, fix that right now.

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

He's killing criminals...for the law.

It reminds me of Dolemite where the warden let's him out of prison to go kill bad guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dSN1Z01-iE

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

kiimo posted:

He's killing criminals...for the law.

It reminds me of Dolemite where the warden let's him out of prison to go kill bad guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dSN1Z01-iE

They spoil it in the trailer, but I love when Dolemite pops out on those guys and yells "Freeze and..." then he just starts blasting them before even finishing the sentence.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRAT1-c7q98

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
The new Death Wish is going to suck because it's gonna be the same watered-down PG-13 horse poo poo that every other "violent" movie is these days. Death Wish isn't an action movie, it's a slasher from the killer's POV, and Hollywood doesn't do good slashers anymore.

Jewmanji
Dec 28, 2003
Here's a trailer for Call Me Your Name, which has been getting great reviews and doesn't fetishize vigilante justice or double as free advertising for the NRA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9AYPxH5NTM

ozmunkeh
Feb 28, 2008

hey guys what is happening in this thread

Eezee posted:

Despite what I said about the new version, I actually think this is pretty cool. They play dramatic music over that scene instead of ACDC and there's a certain cheesiness in it.
I don't know how the rest of the movie is, but in the trailer for the new movie it seems more like "gently caress yeah, let's kill criminals" and in this scene it's played very matter-of-factly.

Maybe I just have a problem with the music choice? Who knows.

Naah, it's bad and trash. If anyone can make a Michael Winner movie look like high art it's Eli Roth.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

BonoMan posted:

Lol then maybe go find a think piece and not a movie called "Death Wish"?

poo poo, just go rewatch Breaking Bad.

Forget what the series turned into and just think about the phrase "death wish". It implies Kersey wants to die a hero, and will put himself into increasingly dangerous situations to play hero or die trying. Now that's a nice premise, you just have to tweak it a little to not be a copy of Taxi Driver or Falling Down.

RedSpider
May 12, 2017

Peanut President posted:

The new Death Wish is going to suck because it's gonna be the same watered-down PG-13 horse poo poo that every other "violent" movie is these days. Death Wish isn't an action movie, it's a slasher from the killer's POV, and Hollywood doesn't do good slashers anymore.

I find it hard to believe Eli Roth would make a PG13 movie, let alone a PG13 Death Wish remake.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Peanut President posted:

The new Death Wish is going to suck because it's gonna be the same watered-down PG-13 horse poo poo that every other "violent" movie is these days. Death Wish isn't an action movie, it's a slasher from the killer's POV, and Hollywood doesn't do good slashers anymore.

Uh... you know it's an Eli Roth movie, right? Like, the Hostel and Cabin Fever and Green Inferno guy?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



kiimo posted:

He's killing criminals...for the law.

This is a whole lot of american action movies though.

Even if the guy is a cop or a fed or something, he usually gets stymied by his superiors quoting "some bullshit law" and he has to personally execute the bad guys & possibly go underground, but not as a bad guy himself.

My dad sometimes goes like "now he's gonna hand in his badge and kill the bad guy right" and I gotta say "most likely"

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



the main thesis of american films: the system is broken and if you want justice you need to bring it about yourself.

the first part sure, but the second part is slippery as gently caress

Frogfingers
Oct 10, 2012
This is still relevant in TYOOL 2017 right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEyP4Q8igQY

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Powaqoatse posted:

the main thesis of american films: the system is broken and if you want justice you need to bring it about yourself.


RedSpider
May 12, 2017

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

Uh... you know it's an Eli Roth movie, right? Like, the Hostel and Cabin Fever and Green Inferno guy?

I don't think he's too bright. I mean, he did say Death Wish is a 'slasher' movie. :lol:

DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Nobody likes you.
Everybody hates you.
You're gonna lose.

Smile, you fuck.

RedSpider posted:

I don't think he's too bright. I mean, he did say Death Wish is a 'slasher' movie. :lol:

...it kind of is?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Every Death Wish is totally a slasher movie

Ammanas
Jul 17, 2005

Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"

Powaqoatse posted:

the main thesis of american films: the system is broken and if you want justice you need to bring it about yourself.

the first part sure, but the second part is slippery as gently caress

It's almost as if this is a political message

Super Fan
Jul 16, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
I love Death Wish 3

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

RedSpider posted:

I find it hard to believe Eli Roth would make a PG13 movie, let alone a PG13 Death Wish remake.


LORD OF BOOTY posted:

Uh... you know it's an Eli Roth movie, right? Like, the Hostel and Cabin Fever and Green Inferno guy?

My mistake as it is R but I don't know fellas, that trailer looked like it was a "said the f word twice" kind of R. :shrug:

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Ammanas posted:

It's almost as if this is a political message

Sure, it can be, and sometimes it is.

Mostly the message is "killing people is ok" though (obviously the hero will feel bad for a while, but in the end the murders were justified).

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
what they should have done is make is so bruce willis is killing all the cops murdering black folk as a vigilante

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Doorknob Slobber posted:

what they should have done is make is so bruce willis is killing all the cops murdering black folk as a vigilante

that would still be the same movie though

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Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
A movie where Bruce Willis just headshots dozens of beer truck deliverymen and steals their beer and gets obliterated on it would be a cool movie, I think.

Maybe get Tim Burton/Danny Elfman to score the thing.

Gonz fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Aug 5, 2017

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