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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Chalk up another chart for Fox_News.png! Fox should hire me to do their graphs. I think I could really get this poo poo going. 
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Unzip and Attack posted:Fox should hire me to do their graphs. I think I could really get this poo poo going. quote:WASHINGTON (AP) — Beating expectations, President Barack Obama's health care overhaul was on track to sign up more than 7 million Americans for health insurance on deadline day Monday, government officials told The Associated Press. I'm guessing the right-o-sphere is gonna go full-bore "Obama cooked the books" now. It's all they've got.
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beatlegs posted:I'm guessing the right-o-sphere is gonna go full-bore "Obama cooked the books" now. It's all they've got. I know three people registering today, I doubt it's uncommon.
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Apr 1, 2014 07:09
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beatlegs posted:I'm guessing the right-o-sphere is gonna go full-bore "Obama cooked the books" now. It's all they've got. It's all they've had since this time in 2012. Remember kids: Unskewing--not even once. edit: Nonsense posted:How insufferable will right-wing media be the day after the general this year, when compared to say the day after general election 2012? The smug will be overwhelming when they pick up house and senate seats. If they manage to actually take the senate, we're in for colliding fronts creating a smug vortex. None shall escape. OAquinas fucked around with this message at 08:49 on Apr 1, 2014 |
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Apr 1, 2014 08:41
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How insufferable will right-wing media be the day after the general this year, when compared to say the day after general election 2012?
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beatlegs posted:I'm guessing the right-o-sphere is gonna go full-bore "Obama cooked the books" now. It's all they've got. Yes. Yes they are. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03/30/gop-sen-barrasso-administration-has-cooked-books-on-obamacare-numbers/ http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/31/4927876/white-house-dismisses-senators.html
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:It's very much Mirror of Erised fiction. IIRC both libertarians and liberals were claiming its extremely limited release was a conspiracy by Fox to keep The Truth from being exposed. Yeah when I first saw it I thought it was something like that (I was a dumb highschool kid) but drat I look back at the Bush years some times and hardly believe it was real. Only later did I realize just how classist that movie was.
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KomradeX posted:Yeah when I first saw it I thought it was something like that (I was a dumb highschool kid) but drat I look back at the Bush years some times and hardly believe it was real. Only later did I realize just how classist that movie was. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhqqAUh1VPU VideoTapir fucked around with this message at 09:21 on Apr 1, 2014 |
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Apr 1, 2014 09:19
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beatlegs posted:I'm guessing the right-o-sphere is gonna go full-bore "Obama cooked the books" now. It's all they've got. They might also try to move the goalposts to "look at all these people who are still uninsured!" Obamacare Real Enrollment: Just 1.7% of Uninsured Covered
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Jagged Jim posted:They might also try to move the goalposts to "look at all these people who are still uninsured!" In a sane world, the Democratic response to this should just be "you know, that's a great point, and reason enough to continue the work on our health care system that we started when we passed Obamacare." Unfortunately, that's not the world we live in 
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Apr 1, 2014 10:10
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If Republicans want to win, all they have to do is say Obamacare ruined the greatest healthcare system on the face of the earth to insure 1.7% of the uninsured.
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Apr 1, 2014 12:14
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In just one year there are 2% less uninsured. Imagine when medicaid continues to expand and more people sign up next year.
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So what's going to be the story this week? Fuckin SCIENTISTS falsifying data about spooky stem cells Or Constantly moving the goalposts about Obummercare sign ups?
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Apr 1, 2014 14:20
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Nonsense posted:If Republicans want to win, all they have to do is say Obamacare ruined the greatest healthcare system on the face of the earth to insure 1.7% of the uninsured. I take it this is actually 1.7% of total US population? What actual percentage of pre-Obamacare uninsured is now insured? Orange Devil fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Apr 1, 2014 |
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Apr 1, 2014 14:47
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Orange Devil posted:I take it this is actually 1.7% of total US population? Fudging numbers slightly for ease of use: The argument is that only about 1/3 of the sign-ups were previously uninsured, and only about 1/2 of those paid their first premiums. 6m x 1/3 = 2m. 2m x 1/2 = 1m. 1m/49m = .0204, or about 2%. That's the gist of the math Breitbart is using.
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Is he just making up both of those figures?
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Apr 1, 2014 16:05
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Obamacare sign ups may or may not include people who are eligible for the expanded Medicaid provisions and the law that allows kids to stay on their parents insurance. Even though those two things are due to Obamacare, that's still some how a mark against it. Basically "Free" Market chiding by the free marketers. Obamacare wasn't a smashing success on it's launch day so it was a complete failure. Never mind that's not how things work but you know...
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In which Dr. Rockso the Rock and Roll Clown visits his dear pal Hannity:quote:Hannity invited Fox News host Bob Beckel, who has been open about how religion helped him overcome his cocaine habit, to comment on the spring break footage. Seriously though, watch the video.
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Apr 1, 2014 16:28
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comes along bort posted:In which Dr. Rockso the Rock and Roll Clown visits his dear pal Hannity: Is there any particular point of the video we should watch, not everyone has the fortitude to sit through that poo poo.
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Apr 1, 2014 16:38
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That sounds like the rapturous tone of a dude who will still do a line if you twist his arm.
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Apr 1, 2014 16:44
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Gee what a coincidence, it's the one millionth coke head who insists they were snorting during the golden days of gum numbing and everyone else will just never know what real coke is. It's almost as if there's some kind of rapidly diminishing return in an activity that also turns you into a self centered dumbass who thinks their personal experience is universal.
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From what the young kids tell me, Molly is different from Ecstasy in that Ecstasy is a concoction of MDMA, Meth, Ephedrine pills, and other nasty poo poo. Molly is pure MDMA, which is, I dunno, the less risky of the two drugs to take.
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Orange Devil posted:I take it this is actually 1.7% of total US population?
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Apr 1, 2014 16:55
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Bunleigh posted:The number that's been floating around is between medicare expansion and exchange sign-ups, 9.5 million people are now covered who were not before. I believe we had around 40 million uninsured before, so a little under a quarter of that group? Add in the kids able to float under their parent's insurance til 26 and that goes up even more. Unfortunately, the claim that the number isn't as high as it seems because of previously-insured signing up isn't a bullshit one. That said, its also a preciously small and thin fig leaf to try and hide behind. There are two populations of the uninsured that won't see a benefit from the ACA: those that would be covered by medicaid but lack the expanded coverage due to living in a red state, and those whose cheapest plan option is still more than 8% of their income.
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AShamefulDisplay posted:Chick-fil-a, Paula Dean as well. Yes they did. I knew I'd left out a bunch.
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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:From what the young kids tell me, Molly is different from Ecstasy in that Ecstasy is a concoction of MDMA, Meth, Ephedrine pills, and other nasty poo poo. Molly is pure MDMA, which is, I dunno, the less risky of the two drugs to take. They're both basically harmless, but of the two I like Molly better. You just have to remember to hydrate and to check yourself so you don't over exert. Otherwise, it's a blast.
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Zeroisanumber posted:They're both basically harmless, but of the two I like Molly better. You just have to remember to hydrate and to check yourself so you don't over exert. Otherwise, it's a blast. When I was a hip kid molly was basically non existent. Club scenes demanded the meth/MDA (not MDMA for anyone reading) concoction so I basically quit doing it. But boy did I love the more "pure" stuff when I was able to get it.
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quote:RUSH: The UN's latest report from the international planetary committee on climate, whatever, IPCC, whatever the hell it stands for -- doesn't matter to me -- their latest report's out and it's the biggest scaremongering global warming report. Nobody will be spared, folks. In fact, because this is the scariest climate prediction ever, do you realize that we will experience a global surge in the number of golfers? Climate change would increase boating, golfing, and beach recreation at the expense of skiing. There would even be an increase in golf in Canada due to climate change, and that is supposed to panic us. I love the hypothetical Polar Bear story. "It's going to kill you and devour your children! VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!  "
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On the KOTH talk: While it's a series about Texas with a strong conservative bent, I think it's doubtlessly successful on a more universal scale because it appeals to universal values that even liberals can appreciate: common sense, a distrust of authorities and organization, and a strong emphasis on individual initiative to solve problems. No one disagrees that these things are good, they just disagree on the where and how in which they're good. At the same time, KOTH also plays off of the weaknesses of these values. Like, Hank for all his common sense is incredibly naive about things beyond his scope of experience (like the drag queen episode where, despite Peggy laying it out directly, he can't understand what's going on). A lot of the time the trust he places in others also screws him over because he doesn't realize that not everyone shares his values, like how he keeps buying cars at sticker price because he sees the car salesman as a buddy of 20 years, or how he glorifies Buck Strickland but over time becomes more aware of Buck's vices and how damaging he is in a position of power.
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kik2dagroin posted:RUSH: Well, I appreciate that. He's basically saying my instincts are so right on, I don't even need to know what I'm talking about, I'm right anyway. Conservatism.txt
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Unzip and Attack posted:Conservatism.txt Ah, but the quote after it is more concise (just to reiterate the fact that he literally said this twice): Ol' Rushy posted:That's what you're saying, right? I may not know what I'm talking about, but I'm right anyway.
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Being a dirty ferner', I have to ask: isn't accusing the government of purposefully cooking the books one of those things that gets you sued? You're accusing someone of fraud without evidence. It's beyond "I don't trust this government" or "This policy is poo poo". It's straight-up saying someone is a criminal. We used to have a moderate conservative pundit here in Brazil called Paulo Francis. He'd run his mouth about state companies and governments, but since it's Brazil, where judicial actions take forever, never suffered for it. Then he moved to he USA and did the same thing, and was sued almost into ruination, but died before he could see the end of the lawsuits.
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Sephyr posted:Being a dirty ferner', I have to ask: isn't accusing the government of purposefully cooking the books one of those things that gets you sued? You're accusing someone of fraud without evidence. It's beyond "I don't trust this government" or "This policy is poo poo". It's straight-up saying someone is a criminal. Impossible-to-substantiate accusations against the government are a staple of the American right. I don't know the legal particularities but I cannot imagine the government suing someone for saying anything like that.
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OAquinas posted:Add in the kids able to float under their parent's insurance til 26 and that goes up even more.
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Sephyr posted:Being a dirty ferner', I have to ask: isn't accusing the government of purposefully cooking the books one of those things that gets you sued? You're accusing someone of fraud without evidence. It's beyond "I don't trust this government" or "This policy is poo poo". It's straight-up saying someone is a criminal. Questions like this come up every so often and the answer is simply that yeah, if you're a Republican you can actually get away with some really bad poo poo because god forbid anyone call you on it, then they're showing partisan bias. And if the government tried to take action--I mean, the GOP has shown its willingness to shut down the federal government with their temper tantrums.
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In the US public figures can't sue for libel or slander unless they can prove that the writer/sayer of the defamatory statements is knowingly lying. In practice you can say pretty much whatever you want about government officials.
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ShadowCatboy posted:On the KOTH talk: While it's a series about Texas with a strong conservative bent, I think it's doubtlessly successful on a more universal scale because it appeals to universal values that even liberals can appreciate: common sense, a distrust of authorities and organization, and a strong emphasis on individual initiative to solve problems. No one disagrees that these things are good, they just disagree on the where and how in which they're good. This is all true. Hank is a conservative in that he likes things how they are and he doesn't like change, and sometimes the show pushes back on him in this and sometimes it supports him, and "change" is often strident liberals but it's also poo poo like anti-Halloween evangelists, big box retailers or cool "alternative" Christians. That said, I would repeat my observation that the show's portrayal of twenty-somethings was almost always strawmanny and unfair (e.g. environmentalists so angry that the Hills accidentally injured a whooping crane that they trample and destroy the habitat while chasing them down). As for Idiocracy, it's an undoubtedly elitist movie that sees redneck and ghetto culture as completely equivalent (and Costco and Fuddrucker's are undoubtedly meant to be read as substitutes for more hegemonic national chains with a stronger association with poverty). That said, its portrayal of the elite childless yuppie scum in the intro isn't exactly flattering either.
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Isn't Idiocracy's biggest problem its strong support of eugenics?
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Swan Oat posted:In the US public figures can't sue for libel or slander unless they can prove that the writer/sayer of the defamatory statements is knowingly lying. In practice you can say pretty much whatever you want about government officials. As an addendum, I imagine it would be really hard to prove anyone known for telling insane lies constantly was lying, as it is implied they believe at least some of them. If you become unreliable enough as a source of information it's basically impossible to prove that you don't believe any one singular lie. "Whattya mean I'm defaming you? No I really believe it! Remember when I MisterBadIdea posted:This is all true. Hank is a conservative in that he likes things how they are and he doesn't like change, and sometimes the show pushes back on him in this and sometimes it supports him, and "change" is often strident liberals but it's also poo poo like anti-Halloween evangelists, big box retailers or cool "alternative" Christians. I would say a decent amount of the humor is derived from Hank's overly simplistic views clashing with actual reality as well. Also Idiocracy may not have been the beeessst movie but it certainly had its moments. The slowly-devolving Fudrucker's name gag near the beginning of the movie was pretty good.
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That's all of Mike Judge's movies in a nutshell. A collection of genuinely funny moments that somehow manage to not become more than the whole.
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