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Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

TwoPair posted:


Okay DC, I get it, Jason Todd was killed with a crowbar, goddamn. I don't like the guy much either but there has got to be some other way to show a threat to a guy. You know he's not immune to bullets or anything...

Damien going after Jason Todd with a crowbar made cackle with laughter, I'll be honest.

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BrianWilly
Apr 24, 2007

There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand
It’s literally been done already before, though. Like they’ve already made the exact same gag between the exact same two characters

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

I can't imagine any comic writer who worked on Jason *really* thinks they're the first to make a crowbar callback.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

Covok posted:

Is there anyone here enjoying any of the following:
  • Heroes in Crisis and its related deaths?
  • Dick losing his memories?
  • Jason abandoning the Outlaws?
  • Batman's marriage not working out and the fallout of it?
  • Bendis on Superman?]

I'm not judging, I'm generally curious.

I didn't bother with any of the other ones, but as for Bendis on Superman I'm finding it alright.

Superman is the weaker of the two, and it doesn't help that this first arc just has so much going on all at once. I had a similar issue with most of Scott Snyder's recent output where it feels like ten different things are going on all at once, and I struggle to keep up with it. I'm still enjoying it well enough, as I am with Snyder's Justice League, but reading it sometimes has me feeling so lost.

Action Comics seems to suit my tastes quite a bit more. I like seeing Superman deal with a way more small scale problem, although I'm sure it's about to escalate.

More than both however, I feel more impressed with the new run of Supergirl than either one. I like Supergirl and Krypto going on a space adventure as a premise, and it's had some pretty fun stuff so far.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
I finally got around to reading The New Frontier and it was fantastic.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

CharlestheHammer posted:

I think it’s more creators not having much to work with so resorting to bringing up anything memorable they can.

Like with Hank and beating his wife.

They could try being creative. Like some sort of creator.

DivineCoffeeBinge
Mar 3, 2011

Spider-Man's Amazing Construction Company

OhFunny posted:

I finally got around to reading The New Frontier and it was fantastic.

No matter what happens, The New Frontier will still be there, just being perfection.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
So remember how people were debating whether calling Nightwing "Ric" was a Casablanca joke or whether it was an actual change?

I have some bad news about Nightwing #51.

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

Much as I thought the debut issue was pretty okay, I'm absolutely not on board for anything written by noted racist sex pest Scott Lobdell.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

OhFunny posted:

I finally got around to reading The New Frontier and it was fantastic.

I think it’s the closest we’ll ever get to my platonic ideal DC superhero saga.

I love it so much.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Onmi posted:

They could try being creative. Like some sort of creator.

This Is comics, the only art we know is homage.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Doctor Spaceman posted:

So remember how people were debating whether calling Nightwing "Ric" was a Casablanca joke or whether it was an actual change?

I have some bad news about Nightwing #51.

I don't blame them for trying to update away from Dick, which is obviously an unfortunate name nobody his age goes by anymore, but Ric is about the worst direction they could have gone with it. At least they can just blame it on brain trauma when they go back to Dick.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Nobody ever mocks popular and hip politician Dick Cheney's name.


Not ever.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters
All of these people did just fine with the first name Dick!

(Worksafe link, though looking through it everyone under the age of 50 (60, maybe) on this list do something NSFW for work, turns out)

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

Big props to Dick Warlock, Dick Trickle, and Dick Smothers, Jr.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters
The most remarkable thing about the list is that Dick Trickle, Dick Button, Dick Butkus, Dick Lane, Dick Hymen, Dick Feller, Dick Assman, Dick Armey, Dick Sprang, Dick Grace, Dick Rich, and Dick Turner all found fame outside the pornographic arts.

Admiralty Flag
Jun 7, 2007

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

Edge & Christian posted:

The most remarkable thing about the list is that Dick Trickle, Dick Button, Dick Butkus, Dick Lane, Dick Hymen, Dick Feller, Dick Assman, Dick Armey, Dick Sprang, Dick Grace, Dick Rich, and Dick Turner all found fame outside the pornographic arts.
I applaud your effort in compiling this list!

"Genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration." -- some goddamned IP thief

Sinners Sandwich
Jan 4, 2012

Give me your friend's BURGERS and SANDWICHES, I'll put out the fire.

I can't believe Batman's wiener broke the source wall and erased all dicks from the DCU

Adnor
Jan 11, 2013

Justice for Daisy

Pretty sure the amnesiac arc will end up with Dick recovering his memories and saying something along the lines of "My name is Dick" or something like that.

Darth Nat
Aug 24, 2007

It all comes out right in the end.

Android Blues posted:

Big props to Dick Warlock, Dick Trickle, and Dick Smothers, Jr.

There's also one of my personal favorites, baseball player Dick Pole.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

Rhyno posted:

Nobody ever mocks popular and hip politician Dick Cheney's name.


Not ever.

Dick Army is too great a name to ever do away with.

Also let's not forget the biggest dick in politics, Tricky Dicky.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
Just call him Richard. Or even Gray

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Ric Grayson? Haha. Maybe he just really decided he was into the Nature Boy, Ric Flair. Wooo!

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

You don't even need to keep his last name after the amnesia. In fact, why not make everyone happy and have it also be a subtle penis reference.

Rich Johnson.

e: gently caress. There's a 't' in there :(

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas

Madkal posted:

Dick Army is too great a name to ever do away with.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Edge & Christian posted:

The most remarkable thing about the list is that Dick Trickle, Dick Button, Dick Butkus, Dick Lane, Dick Hymen, Dick Feller, Dick Assman, Dick Armey, Dick Sprang, Dick Grace, Dick Rich, and Dick Turner all found fame outside the pornographic arts.

Also Dick Pound.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Madkal posted:

Dick Army is too great a name to ever do away with.

Have a joke from 2001!

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Xelkelvos posted:

Just call him Richard. Or even Gray

I think Richard is probably the best option yeah. It's pretty uncommon for younger people these days too, presumably because of the Dick association, but it's still more timeless than any of the nickname versions. Ric is just weird, and trying way too hard, though I guess with a nickname they get to keep Alfred's Master Richard thing to show how formal he is.

Two Tone Shoes
Jan 2, 2009

All that's missing is the ring.
You're never going to get a name that isn't Dick to stick. Anytime in a comic I read "richard" it always comes off the page like a disappointed mom saying his full name.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Has Bruce ever done a Batman Begins style "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you" move in comics? In today's Batman he just did.

Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 12:09 on Oct 17, 2018

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Teenage Fansub posted:

Has Bruce ever done a Batman Begins style "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you" move in comics? In today's Batman he just did.
Aye I think once the KGBeast was like "YESS NOW WE FIGHT TO THE DEATH" and Batman was just like "but why? I can just leave," and then he did, sealing in KGBeast behind him.

Dishwasher
Dec 5, 2006

Congratulations on not getting fit in 2011!
Ocean Lords from Space?

Deliciously ridiculous. 10/10.

And 'Ric' is obviously temporary until this run is over and this is never spoken of ever again. If not, drat guys at least call him 'Rich'.

Admiralty Flag
Jun 7, 2007

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

Nessus posted:

Aye I think once the KGBeast was like "YESS NOW WE FIGHT TO THE DEATH" and Batman was just like "but why? I can just leave," and then he did, sealing in KGBeast behind him.
Yeah, that wasn't "I don't have to save you", that was "I'm going to leave you to die of thirst in pitch blackness by locking you in this forgotten sewer vault."

I think I read they retconned it by saying Bats told the FBI (or whoever the government guys were) that he was locked up down below and they should go get him, but the issue made it pretty clear that KGBeast got Cask'd.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you
What Ironic is that the guy he left for dead is KGBeast again.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Interesting answers

quote:

Nrama: Well, I can’t say he’s wrong. But you know, one of the other drastic changes is that, in the past, Dick was always the more upbeat, fearless Robin, and that carried over into his role as Nightwing. But now, he feels a little more like Jason Todd in some ways—detached from the world and more comfortable around outcasts (and, dare we say it, outlaws?). Scott, have the similarities come to mind as you’re writing both characters? Or are there more differences?


Lobdell: I think Jason remembers every slight, every mistake, every act of violence whether committed by him or upon him. I think he is driven alternately and equally by rage, revenge and redemption. He is acutely aware of every busted and put back together again relationship with any of the other bats. And he feels his life was a disaster almost from the day he was born into poverty by his drug dealing father and his addict mother.

Nicieza: That was the one thing I had to feel my way through as I started helping out with the script. Scott really nails Jason well in his answer, I can only assume that in writing the character for what seems like 15 years he might have picked up a clue along the way. Differentiating Ric from Jason became a lot easier by the time I started working on #52. Just took a little bit of understanding Ric's headspace better.

https://www.newsarama.com/42366-new-nightwing-writers-take-ric-grayson-in-a-new-direction.html

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Mr Hootington posted:

Lobdell had them make Rick into Jason because that is all he knows how to write.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Scott Lobdell is a piece of poo poo and if you buy his books then just gently caress you in general.

BrianWilly
Apr 24, 2007

There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand
lmfao "ric" I can't. I really can't take that seriously in any way

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Rage and redemption? I thought Jason had transcended to Saturday morning cartoon friendship is magic?

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Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.
Inb4 "MY NAME'S NOT RIC!" clip from Spongebob.

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